6 prongs but wrong arrangement

[cyang]

Today I went to a jewerly chain store to pick up a channel diamond setting for my loose diamond. I chose 6 prongs for the setting. After it is set (cost me $150), i was surprised to see the 6 prongs is not the usual arrangement.

The typical 6 prongs is with one on the top of the diamond and one on the bottom of the diamond, then 2 on the upper shoulder, 2 on the lower shoulder.

But the 6 prong setting i got is the typical style turning 60 degree. It end up having no prong on the top or bottom. two prongs on the upper shoulder, two on the side, and two on the lower shoulder.


Before diamond is set, i told the sales person to let the actual jeweler know that i want the top/bottom prongs are really vertical, which implies the typical directions. However, i don't think she got it at all. Is is normal diamond is set to the way they set now?

I have attached pictures along with the message. One is be 6 prong setting i got. The other will be the one i want.

At the end of it, i told them i am not satisfied with the setting. They even told me that the setting they arranged is more sturdy, because on the top and bottom i have two prongs to protect my diamond, instead of one on the top/bottom. That is ridiculous. I can argue then there is less prongs on the side. Then they said it is more like hit something on the diamond top and bottom, than hitting on the diamond side. What kind of argument is that?


Anyway they said if i am not satisfied i can get it redone. I wonder if setting/un-setting too often will hurt diamond? Will those process crack diamond easily? The other thing i want to note is that there is a 1 - 2 mm (around that length) long mark somewhere at diamond girdle. I knew this before i set it to the ring. Do you think with another unset and set process, will that make diamond more tend to crack/chip?

Thanks. Appreciate your help.

 

[JulieN]

If it will bother you, go back and have them fixed right away. I don't think they will unset/reset the diamond, but just rotate the head.

It is supposed to be more protected this way, though.

Is that diamond the same as the one you posted earlier about?
1.08 ct, round.
measurement: 6.61 - 6.65 - 4.00 mm
polish/symmetry: excellent/excellent
VS2
color: I
cutlet: none
girdle : medium to slightly thick

table: 60.4%
depth: 62.7%

crown angle: 36
pavillion angle: 41

 

[cyang]

They told me that they will have to take the diamond out of the prongs, remove the old prong, and use a new prong head. That is why i was concerned about possible crack or chip.

It is not the diamond that i inquired earlier. This loose diamond i got it from family.

Thanks.

 

[yssie]

ditto Julie - it *is* more likely to bang the diamond on the sides, where your setting protects the girdle and the inspiration does not.

From your post it sounds like an integrated head? Yes, every reset carries a certain risk, but diamonds that have survived cutting and polishing are generally hardy little things, I would insure it for setting and not worry further if the clarity is SI or higher.


Are you happy with the stone?

 

[cyang]

Yssie, Thanks for reply. I am a little confused. which arrangement protect the diamond more? My current one or the typical one?

In normal condition i won't worry too much about reset. It is just there is a small mark around girdle. I am not sure if it is a chip or feather. It is close to the surface or might be on the surface. It is currently covered by the prong so that it is invisible. I don't know unset and reset will tirgger breakage off that mark.

Thanks.

 

[stone-cold11]

It is easier to hit the stone from the sides then the top, bottom. Garry prefers to mount the stone that way too, for that reason.

EDT:
If you look at their store, which way are most of their 6 prongs mounted, I am guessing the first pic. By giving them special instructions, without an orientation, they probably think you want it mounted the second pic as it is uncommon.

If you do not like it this way, ask for a change, unsetting will not be a problem, it is usually the setting process that damages the stone if it is going to be damaged.

 

[yssie]

It is easier to hit the stone from the sides then the top, bottom. Garry prefers to mount the stone that way too, for that reason.

this. Your current arrangement is better protection.

If you do not like it this way, ask for a change, unsetting will not be a problem, it is usually the setting process that damages the stone if it is going to be damaged.

lol! somehow I think if our OP wants the stone unset he probably wants it set again, but yknow

 

[stone-cold11]

If you do not like it this way, ask for a change, unsetting will not be a problem, it is usually the setting process that damages the stone if it is going to be damaged.

lol! somehow I think if our OP wants the stone unset he probably wants it set again, but yknow

Well... If you set it once, twice... what's the diff? :p Just the same chance of getting it damage as the first try anyway...

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I will agree with you that I like the traditional setting (prong at 12:00 and 6:00) better. Many thousands of women successfully wear 4 prong settings with no problems, so I think a 6 prong set the traditional way is certainly adequate. I mean, when you think about it, probably 99% of diamond solitaires are probably either set with 4 prongs at the corners or 6 prongs with one at the top and bottom and two on each side. If this was a huge problem, I think it wouldn't be so common! Always insure diamond rings, though!

 

[Sizzle]

I personally don't like the way they set it AT ALL. I guess I am a traditionalist. Definately go back and get what you want. You should look at your ring and be happy, not irritated.

 

[rtuttle]

Do you mind giving us the detials on the mm of the setting, and the ct of the diamond?

I just bought a 1.5 ct diamond for a channel set diamond setting, with 3 mm. I wondering if that will look similar to what I bought or not.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Hi,
I also don't like the way they set it. If the way you were hoping to have it set isn't as safe for the diamond, then that is yet another reason (among many) to get it insured.

 

[sparxs111]

I'm a traditionalist, and I personally like the prongs on the top (1) and bottom (1). it looksa little cleaner. I also agree with a couple of the post above pointed out. Most of the rings are set that way, and if there was a problem with diamond strength and chips occuring after tje fact, maybe they wouldn't be.

I bought a 3mm channel set from excell for my wife, and it looks amazing, so I am a little biased. My thought is it looks a little cleaner as the 2 prongs on the side are "lost" in the ring band. the main thing is to get what you have in your mind! you want to love the ring the couple of hundrd times a day you will be looking at it. Especially with such a beautiful stone.

Don't forget that the little inclusion that is currently covered by a prong, can be covered by a prong again in the new setting. Just make that demand clear if you do want it reset!!!!

 

[rtuttle]

Right now, I'm going with 4 prongs? Should I go with 6? I'm going to insure the ring.

Diamond is 1.5, and the ring is 3mm width on the top. I don't know if that impacts if you should go with 4 or 6 prongs. I like the look of the 4 better.

Is there a good article on the differences of 4 vs 6?

I just found the picture of your ring sparxs111. I love it!

 

[sparxs111]

Thanks! Another happy tiffany "replica" customer. I personally like the 6 prong, as a just in case 1 prong breaks off, you're diamond will more often than not, not fall out and be lost. I also like the look...

 

[cyang]

the diamond ct is 1.05
and the band width is around 2 - 2.5mm.

My finger is not long, things do not look right if it is more than 2.5 mm.