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djscal

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Hello,

1st time poster:

I know from the many threads on cushion cut stones here that you have to see a cushion to appreciate its beauty. However I am considering buying the stone from a big online vendor who does not provide very good pictures. Is that a really bad idea? They have a 30 day return policy if I hate the stone.

I was wondering if someone could look at the numbers of the stone and tell me if it has the potential to be a great stone? Or if there is something glaringly wrong or bad about these numbers and stats. I do have Sarin info and have attached the GIA cert.

Is there a tool that I can run these numbers through to tell me more info? I looked at the HCA which seems to be for round diamonds only. Is there another tool similar to that for cushions?

I''m particularly curious to know if the crown and pavilion angles look good.

I don''t need the absolute highest quality diamond in the world, but I also want to make sure that I don''t buy a diamond that doesn''t have good brilliance, sparkle and fire.
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GIA cert attached.

Cushion Brilliant
1.58 Carrots
H color
VS1 clarity
Polish: Exc
Symmetry: VG
Flourescene: None
GIA Certified
1.005 ratio of length to width (I like squarish cushions)
Depth 66%
Table 59%
Crown Angle 42 degrees
Crown Height 15.2%
Pavil Angle 44.3 degrees
Pavil Depth 47%
Girdle Thickness 4.1% (thin to thick rating on GIA cert)

1 59 H VS1 GIA CU.JPG
 
You will hear that you really need photos to judge a cushion. However, based on the numbers and what I know of that plot (my diamond is very similiar), it should be a very nice stone. If you can pick up an aset scope, you can take it to the vendor and try to take some photos.
 
Can you post the photos you have- even if they are not so good?
It''s true that you can''t really get the answers from the numbers- even the plot tells you nothing meaningful.
 
PS there''s absolutey nothing on the GIA report that suggests anything but a gorgeous diamond.
If you love the way the facet pattern looks, I''ll bet it''s a winner!
 
Thanks David! Here is one of the crappy pics that they sent me. Does that even help?

1.59 CU H VS1 pic.JPG
 
2nd pic - even worse.

1.59 H VS1 pic 2.JPG
 
What company is it?
 
It''s Union Diamond who is getting the stone from a 3rd party (I don''t know who that 3rd party is). Supposedly the 3rd party guy took the stone home to take pictures because he didn''t have a good camera at his shop! Looks like his home camera setup sucks too!

Union has the diamond on hold and will be shipping it to their site where they will take more pictures and look at it more carefully.

I don''t really want to buy it until I have a decent picture. Union has agreed to take it into their inventory, and send better pictures.
 
Date: 1/14/2009 2:31:39 PM
Author: djscal

I don't really want to buy it until I have a decent picture. Union has agreed to take it into their inventory, and send better pictures.

Smart move. The numbers really tell you nothing on a cushion.
 
The diamond actually looks like it has potential but man ... those are awful photos! I am glad you weren't immediately turned off. Diamond photography is very very difficult. I won't be surprised if the stone is from bbucutting. They put out a lot of cushions like that.
 
I know, I know. They are crap photos.

That''s why I was a bit reluctant to even post these crap pics on PriceScope. I was mainly interested in getting the pro''s opions on the specs (which sounds like everybody so far who has responded - agrees that the specs give it the potential to be a great stone).

What turned me on to the stone initially were the numbers and specs; which sound really good to me after comparing against dozens of others from Union Diamond and other online vendors. Plus, it''s an 8 main pavillion cushion brilliant (with the thin pavillions) which is squarish; which I think looks superb. I like how the center of the stone on a 8 main pav (thin pavs) cushion looks like a round brilliant. Confession: I love round brilliants too and their facet pattern. So, I truly believe both of us will be happy with this 8 pav style of cushion. As they say, a happy woman makes a happy home.
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I plan on proposing around the Valentine''s day timeframe; perhaps on V day.
 
You know my diamond has the exact specs as this one with the exception that it is a 1.51 ct and G color. The shape is very similiar. I love it for the same reasons you described above. My challenge is that I also love chucky faceted diamonds and wnat to trade up. I also want to keep my diamond though. We will see what happens. Good luck and report back!
 
Could you attach a picture of your stone?

Here are some more pics of the stone that I received this am.

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Another

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Another

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another

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another

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Last one

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It looks nice.
 
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Yum!
 

I think we may have a winner!!! It’s even better than I could have imagined from the specs! Beautiful symmetry; big chunky defined pavilions and facets, incredibly square shaped cushion - that I love, fire, and sparkle. Look at the very center of the stone – see how the 8 pavilions come together to form those unique looking shapes around the center?


I was beginning to think that I was crazy and would never find IT, but I think my research has paid off.


Tell me what you think! Do you like it?
 
Date: 1/15/2009 1:58:57 PM
Author: djscal

I think we may have a winner!!! It’s even better than I could have imagined from the specs! Beautiful symmetry; big chunky defined pavilions and facets, incredibly square shaped cushion - that I love, fire, and sparkle. Look at the very center of the stone – see how the 8 pavilions come together to form those unique looking shapes around the center?



I was beginning to think that I was crazy and would never find IT, but I think my research has paid off.



Tell me what you think! Do you like it?
Yes!
 
It looks identical to my stone. Love it.
 
Date: 1/15/2009 1:58:57 PM
Author: djscal

I think we may have a winner!!! It’s even better than I could have imagined from the specs! Beautiful symmetry; big chunky defined pavilions and facets, incredibly square shaped cushion - that I love, fire, and sparkle. Look at the very center of the stone – see how the 8 pavilions come together to form those unique looking shapes around the center?



I was beginning to think that I was crazy and would never find IT, but I think my research has paid off.



Tell me what you think! Do you like it?
Nope. I think you should pass. I mean, it''s just far too gorgeous. Now if you''d just tell me the diamond''s stock number first.....
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In all seriousness - I think it''s perfect.
 
Date: 1/15/2009 2:16:27 PM
Author: geckodani

Nope. I think you should pass. I mean, it''s just far too gorgeous. Now if you''d just tell me the diamond''s stock number first.....
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In all seriousness - I think it''s perfect.
LOL, it doesn''t have a stock number from Union at all because it wasn''t ever on their website. My sales rep asked one of her vendors who provides Union their more "premium" quality cushion stones if he had anything that matched my description. He came up with this one.

Thanks for the help! I love Pricescope!
 
Congrats!!

It looks amazing!!
 
Date: 1/15/2009 4:11:44 PM
Author: Rockdiamond
Congrats!!

It looks amazing!!
Psssst. Rockdiamond. The link in your signature doesn''t work - you forgot the B in By.
 
Date: 1/15/2009 4:19:01 PM
Author: geckodani

Date: 1/15/2009 4:11:44 PM
Author: Rockdiamond
Congrats!!

It looks amazing!!
Psssst. Rockdiamond. The link in your signature doesn''t work - you forgot the B in By.
thank you!!!!!
 
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