Another ? - Keep carat weight or re-cut for better performance ?

[Bron357]

Hi, me again.
Too many gems.......
The two oval pink sapphires are 7.21 carats (14mm x 10mm) and 5.6 carats (12mm x 10mm). These ones I won’t be keeping.
They are cut in just an ordinary way so they are sort of “see through”. I don’t know, are all pale gems sort of “see through”?I’ve seen others decide to recut their gems into much more attractive gems and wonder if I should get Doug to re vamp them.
Should I sacrifice size for a more modern and attractive recut?

 

[Cockatiel]

Definitely see what he says, but I really don't like recuts personally. I hate to lose size and saturation...I actually resent all the recuts I've done. I feel like you could end up w much smaller gems looking at the size of the tables.

 

[mtsapphirelovingannie]

I would consider having them recut. I much prefer a well cut, window free gem. The color of the gems look really nice.

 

[Lisa Loves Shiny]

I have had good results with re-cuts and at least one in which (no fault on the cutter) I opened the paper, looked at the gem and put it away in the deep recesses of my jewelry box. With that said- I would without hesitation have an experienced cutter evaluate these for a re-cut. IMHO the color is lost due to how distracting the large windows are.

 

[Kevin Bryant]

Hi, me again.
Too many gems.......
The two oval pink sapphires are 7.21 carats (14mm x 10mm) and 5.6 carats (12mm x 10mm). These ones I won’t be keeping.
They are cut in just an ordinary way so they are sort of “see through”. I don’t know, are all pale gems sort of “see through”?I’ve seen others decide to recut their gems into much more attractive gems and wonder if I should get Doug to re vamp them.
Should I sacrifice size for a more modern and attractive recut?

How deep or the stones? That is the real question, the one on the left looks like your windowed because the stone is shallow if that is the case you will lose a lot of weight and with the great color I would keep it windowed rather then lose 50% or more of the size and weight. The one on the right looks deep and if so would remain about the same size and just get skinny on the parvilion and the color after recut would be amazing, I use a guy out of Atlanta named Jason Delk he is great at it. I cut my own stones but when I want to insure I get the best out of A recut he is my go to.

 

[Kevin Bryant]

lost half a ct on this recut purple sapphire but it went from a dead stone to something truly amazing. And its unheated

 

[SparkliesLuver]

I've had great luck and experience working with an experienced lapidary, such as Jerry Newman, on my re-cuts. There are several factors at play, but that's where their expert opinion comes in. My vote is for a re-cut, but I also personally have a low tolerance for windows.

 

[Cockatiel]

I have zero tolerance for windows personally. I like cannot tolerate even a tiny one in the center. Also a low tolerance of flat top gems. That said, I think the question should be whether the sapphires will be worth more as is, or after the potential recut. Since Bron357 is not keeping them. Why assume the risks....just have the next owner deal with them. I feel like the weight loss would be too much since she wants to sell them. It's not like you can charge double the price per carat suddenly after the recut.

 

[Bron357]

Thanks everyone, I’ll see what Doug thinks.
I adore all of my newly acquired loose gems but realistically I am never going to set and then wear more than 2 or 3 pieces. I already have a ton of jewellery I barely wear these days.
So I feel it’s “kinder” to rehome as many as I can so they can be worn and loved and not stuck inside their plastic gem boxes.
This is the ring I’m thinking of making. Keeping the bigger pink sapphire and putting 2 of the smaller rubies either side. I’d set the pink sapphire in a halo of small diamonds.

 

[minousbijoux]

I would definitely get some of your stones confirmed as real and minimally treated before making any decisions...

 

[Bron357]

I would definitely get some of your stones confirmed as real and minimally treated before making any decisions...

Yes I will be doing so. Any that I’m selling (and over 1 carat) I’ll be getting reports on. I’ve done my preliminary assessment (I’m studying Gemology and have a gem microscope etc) so I’m pretty confident none are synthetic.

 

[Bron357]

Excuse the photo, using an iPhone over a microscope is nigh impossible.
These are some of the inclusions in one of the rubies, apart from the silk (harder to get a photo of) there are crystals and fluid filled inclusions (Burmese ?)
In any regard, totally fascinating and a wonderful way to waste hours of time (and give you a headache and stiff neck from peering down a microscope).

 

[Kevin Bryant]

Excuse the photo, using an iPhone over a microscope is nigh impossible.
These are some of the inclusions in one of the rubies, apart from the silk (harder to get a photo of) there are crystals and fluid filled inclusions (Burmese ?)
In any regard, totally fascinating and a wonderful way to waste hours of time (and give you a headache and stiff neck from peering down a microscope).

I would get that to a lab

 

[ShinyPink]

Excuse the photo, using an iPhone over a microscope is nigh impossible.
These are some of the inclusions in one of the rubies, apart from the silk (harder to get a photo of) there are crystals and fluid filled inclusions (Burmese ?)
In any regard, totally fascinating and a wonderful way to waste hours of time (and give you a headache and stiff neck from peering down a microscope).

That is a really cool photo, in and of itself. You should make a little collage of microscoped gems!

 

[Burmesedaze]

I love living vicariously through your gem finds

 

[digdeep]

Are you sending this gem to a lab for clarification/documentation? Searching for visual images in synthetic rubies does come up with similar inclusions...........

http://orissaminerals.gov.in/Images/SyntheticRuby.jpg

 

[Bron357]

Are you sending this gem to a lab for clarification/documentation? Searching for visual images in synthetic rubies does come up with similar inclusions...........

http://orissaminerals.gov.in/Images/SyntheticRuby.jpg

This is a comparison ruby inclusion pic. My ruby has actually been reviewed by my Gemologist lecturer who confirmed it was natural, unheated and possibly of Burmese origin.
It also has crystal inclusions plus rutile nests. Very cool.