Antique style cushion

[rearadmiral]

Hello everyone,

I've basically narrowed down my search to some of the following criteria:

$4000-5000
Antique style cushion
~.9 - 1.1 c
G-H color
Eye clean
More rectangular than square.

Now I see that ERD has a couple of their cut above cushions in this price range. But there is no ASET and I'd have to check that out. GOG doesn't seem to have their antique style anywhere near my price range unless it is more yellow stone. I am definitely okay with an estate/consignment stone that met the criteria as well if anyone was aware of such a stone. I realize that these stones are quite difficult to find. I am not totally pressed for time. I'm wondering if I can go to ERD with my requirements and just wait until they get such a stone.

Any thoughts/leads are much appreciated!

 

[tyty333]

Have you checked with Adam at Old World Diamonds...here are a few examples...
http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=2398 - a little over budget


He has a lot more in stock then he has on his website.

EDIT - I'm pretty sure ERD does asets but you might need to call them let them know what you are interested in.

 

[rearadmiral]

Have you checked with Adam at Old World Diamonds...here are a few examples...
http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=2398 - a little over budget


He has a lot more in stock then he has on his website.

EDIT - I'm pretty sure ERD does asets but you might need to call them let them know what you are interested in.

I did check out that site, but most of them lack GIA certs. It has seemed fairly apparent from this site to try to avoid EGL if it can be helped?

 

[tyty333]

Only avoid EGL in modern cuts. In old cuts EGL certs are pretty standard. DO NOT AVOID or you will very much limit yourself
and knock out a lot of nice stones. (With modern cuts we recommend GIA/AGS.)

Edit - ERDs A Cut Beyond (as well as GOGs August Vintage) are newly cut stones patterned after old cuts. I believe OWD stones
are pretty much old (cut way back when) cut stones.

 

[rearadmiral]

Only avoid EGL in modern cuts. In old cuts EGL certs are pretty standard. DO NOT AVOID or you will very much limit yourself
and knock out a lot of nice stones. (With modern cuts we recommend GIA/AGS.)

Edit - ERDs A Cut Beyond (as well as GOGs August Vintage) are newly cut stones patterned after old cuts. I believe OWD stones
are pretty much old (cut way back when) cut stones.

Okay that makes sense for old cuts. I'm just not sure how I would compare these to say a modern GIA cut certification. I.e., EGL color H = ?? in GIA? The newly cut stones patterned after the older styles seem so beautiful. There looks to be a .91c J color august vintage. It is an AGS cert. I'm wondering if I could see a difference in J vs G/H.

 

[ariel144]

Here are some to choose from on James Allen, my favorite is the E SI1 ...note how distinct and crisp the facets are. It is elongated but if you set it East to West, the length across the finger you will get more finger coverage and to me it makes the stone appear larger when set; The D vvs1 is the best but over budget...but really nice for the price IMO

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut//CaratFrom:0.80|CaratTo:1.97|PriceFrom:400|PriceTo:999000|Sort:Carat%20asc,%20DefaultOrder|TabSelected:3|advancedParameter:pn|showAdvanced:show|ps:15||DiamondID:191545,178711,177025,179058,177013,191572,179059,128553,30101,191530,41553,188403,191539|PolishSymmetryLabFlourDepthFrom:45.0|DepthTo:70.2|TableFrom:50.0|TableTo:62.6|

 

[rearadmiral]

Here are some to choose from on James Allen, my favorite is the E SI1 ...note how distinct and crisp the facets are. It is elongated but if you set it East to West, the length across the finger you will get more finger coverage and to me it makes the stone appear larger when set; The D vvs1 is the best but over budget...but really nice for the price IMO

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut//CaratFrom:0.80|CaratTo:1.97|PriceFrom:400|PriceTo:999000|Sort:Carat%20asc,%20DefaultOrder|TabSelected:3|advancedParameter:pn|showAdvanced:show|ps:15||DiamondID:191545,178711,177025,179058,177013,191572,179059,128553,30101,191530,41553,188403,191539|PolishSymmetryLabFlourDepthFrom:45.0|DepthTo:70.2|TableFrom:50.0|TableTo:62.6|

Wow some regular cushion brilliants. I've never been able to find them on james allen. Anything in particular you set in the search parameters?

 

[rearadmiral]

Here are some to choose from on James Allen, my favorite is the E SI1 ...note how distinct and crisp the facets are. It is elongated but if you set it East to West, the length across the finger you will get more finger coverage and to me it makes the stone appear larger when set; The D vvs1 is the best but over budget...but really nice for the price IMO

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut//CaratFrom:0.80|CaratTo:1.97|PriceFrom:400|PriceTo:999000|Sort:Carat%20asc,%20DefaultOrder|TabSelected:3|advancedParameter:pn|showAdvanced:show|ps:15||DiamondID:191545,178711,177025,179058,177013,191572,179059,128553,30101,191530,41553,188403,191539|PolishSymmetryLabFlourDepthFrom:45.0|DepthTo:70.2|TableFrom:50.0|TableTo:62.6|

I do see what appears to be a huge inclusion near the middle of that E SI1.

 

[ariel144]

Here are some to choose from on James Allen, my favorite is the E SI1 ...note how distinct and crisp the facets are. It is elongated but if you set it East to West, the length across the finger you will get more finger coverage and to me it makes the stone appear larger when set; The D vvs1 is the best but over budget...but really nice for the price IMO

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut//CaratFrom:0.80|CaratTo:1.97|PriceFrom:400|PriceTo:999000|Sort:Carat%20asc,%20DefaultOrder|TabSelected:3|advancedParameter:pn|showAdvanced:show|ps:15||DiamondID:191545,178711,177025,179058,177013,191572,179059,128553,30101,191530,41553,188403,191539|PolishSymmetryLabFlourDepthFrom:45.0|DepthTo:70.2|TableFrom:50.0|TableTo:62.6|

Wow some regular cushion brilliants. I've never been able to find them on james allen. Anything in particular you set in the search parameters?

Yes, I put in the depth of 71 and table of 61% also look for the more shallow depth as it usually will face up larger.

Cushion brilliants you look for mid 60% depth and mid 50% table. The smaller tables produce the higher crowns which produce a nice "plump pillow"/cushion.

James Allen has been accessing a lot of cushion brilliants and old mine brilliants in the last month or two and they don't stay around long on their site...so check daily.

That thin white inclusion on the E si1 may not be very noticeable to the naked eye. You can ask the gemologist if it is "eye clean"....I see now you were looking for an elongated cushion and this one is lovely with a more shallow depth so faces up large for the weight.

 

[ariel144]

the H vvs is very nice too...just faces up smaller:

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.00-carat-H-color-VVS1-clarity-sku-179059

Take a look at this 5c antique cushion J color honker (see page 3)

J's are in the colorless range and in a well cut stone can be very white.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/leon-mege-antique-cushion.140739/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/leon-mege-antique-cushion.140739/[/URL]

Just to show you that you could go all the way down to a J color and get a larger stone for your $$.

There weren't any J's that came up in my search in your price range but just goes to show what you can do to get a larger stone if you find one that is cut well.

The best education you can get on cushion cuts is on Good Old Gold....watch Jon's videos.

 

[CharmyPoo]

When buying EGL, make sure it is EGL-USA. I usually adjust for 1 to 2 colors off and 0 to 1 clarity grades off.

 

[ariel144]

Here's a really large Old Mine Cut...nice depth and table numbers. It is a J vs2, if you want a really large stone almost 7.5 x 7.5mm

I would probably get Excel to get the ASET and picture of this one.. $3,700

Sometimes these Old Mine cuts can be more round but you can set it in a square setting and get the same result as a square stone.

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/Diamonds-1/EGL-USA-Graded-Old-Miner-Diamond-1-46-Carat-J-Color-VS2-Clarity-253238.html

Please post the picture...this is the best buy out there IMO.


EGL USA Graded Old Miner Diamond - 1.46 Carat, J Color, VS2 Clarity (#905259002)
Price: $3,889.00$3,694.55
Wire Price: $3,639.13

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Stock ID: 253238
Diamond Information
Shape Old Miner
Carat 1.46
Lab EGL USA
Certificate 905259002
Clarity VS2
Color J
Polish Good
Symmetry Good
Fluorescence None
Table 46
Depth 63.7
Length 7.29
Width 7.22
Height 4.62
Culet Medium
Girdle Very Thin to Medium

 

[ariel144]

An EGL USA J color will face up nice and white:

Show me your K colored diamonds thread:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-k-colored-diamonds.112476/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-k-colored-diamonds.112476/[/URL]

this how beautiful a warm colored OMC can be:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/1-6-ct-omc-from-owd-in-rg-by-lm.176760/page-4']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/1-6-ct-omc-from-owd-in-rg-by-lm.176760/page-4[/URL]

 

[rearadmiral]

Wow thanks for all the help! I'm only worried about any of these older style stones being too noticeably yellow. The applicable finger is very white haha

 

[rearadmiral]

Here's a really large Old Mine Cut...nice depth and table numbers. It is a J vs2, if you want a really large stone almost 7.5 x 7.5mm

I would probably get Excel to get the ASET and picture of this one.. $3,700

Sometimes these Old Mine cuts can be more round but you can set it in a square setting and get the same result as a square stone.

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/Diamonds-1/EGL-USA-Graded-Old-Miner-Diamond-1-46-Carat-J-Color-VS2-Clarity-253238.html

Please post the picture...this is the best buy out there IMO.


EGL USA Graded Old Miner Diamond - 1.46 Carat, J Color, VS2 Clarity (#905259002)
Price: $3,889.00$3,694.55
Wire Price: $3,639.13

Add to Cart
Visit us in our beautiful diamond showroom located in the heart of the New York City Diamond District to view this gorgeous diamond!
Live Chat or call us toll free at 1-866-829-8600 if you have any questions or to schedule an appointment in our beautiful showroom.

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Stock ID: 253238
Diamond Information
Shape Old Miner
Carat 1.46
Lab EGL USA
Certificate 905259002
Clarity VS2
Color J
Polish Good
Symmetry Good
Fluorescence None
Table 46
Depth 63.7
Length 7.29
Width 7.22
Height 4.62
Culet Medium
Girdle Very Thin to Medium

I requested pics of this stone and will post them when I receive.

 

[ariel144]

Wow thanks for all the help! I'm only worried about any of these older style stones being too noticeably yellow. The applicable finger is very white haha

Have you seen a J K, L color stone in real life? I saw an L several months ago and it did not look yellow at all. Diamonds can be tinted with different colors....yellow, brown, pink, green gray....

Watch the GOG videos on color. Also watch some of their videos when they show their AVC's in differing colors. Very interesting and surprising. Most tint you can only see from the side or only rarely at certain angles. Also medium - strong blue fluorescence can make a lower color appear whiter and rarely causes a stone to be milky or cloudy (only 1% of the time)

A well cut L< M < N color can be a brighter prettier stone than an H color that doesn't perform as well. This surprises most newbies in PS but the many regular PSr's enjoy the lower colored stones.

Here is an H color princess cut that looks "pink" to me and is extremely gorgeous. Princess cuts can show more tint than some of the other cuts. I saw a GIA K color princess cut years ago and it was surprisingly beautiful, it had a more beige tint ...not yellow. The "tint" gives them more dimension or something. Just remember that cut is king...not color or clarity. There recently was a discussion thread in PS about the question should the certifications show tint color as well as the color grade of a diamond.

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.02-carat-H-color-VS1-clarity-sku-164184



I'm glad you are getting a picture of the 1.46 but also ask for the ASET...the ASET image will give you the knowledge of how much leakage the stone has which gives an indication of how well the stone performs. Take a look at the GOG August Vintage Cushions and look at their ASET images. These are probably the best performing cushions you can purchase...they are custom cut to perform like crazy, but are pretty pricey.

 

[rearadmiral]

Wow thanks for all the help! I'm only worried about any of these older style stones being too noticeably yellow. The applicable finger is very white haha

Have you seen a J K, L color stone in real life? I saw an L several months ago and it did not look yellow at all. Diamonds can be tinted with different colors....yellow, brown, pink, green gray....

Watch the GOG videos on color. Also watch some of their videos when they show their AVC's in differing colors. Very interesting and surprising.

A well cut L< M < N color can be a brighter prettier stone than an H color that doesn't perform as well. This surprises most newbies in PS but the many regular PSr's enjoy the lower colored stones.

Here is an H color princess cut that looks "pink" to me and is extremely gorgeous. Princess cuts can show more tint than some of the other cuts. I saw a GIA K color princess cut years ago and it was surprisingly beautiful, it had a more beige tint ...not yellow. The "tint" gives them more dimension or something. Just remember that cut is king...not color or clarity. There recently was a discussion thread in PS about the question should the certifications show tint color as well as the color grade of a diamond.

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.02-carat-H-color-VS1-clarity-sku-164184

I'm glad you are getting a picture of the 1.46 but also ask for the ASET...the ASET image will give you the knowledge of how much leakage the stone has which gives an indication of how well the stone performs. Take a look at the GOG August Vintage Cushions and look at their ASET images. These are probably the best performing cushions you can purchase...they are custom cut to perform like crazy, but are pretty pricey.

I haven't seen many diamonds in real life yet. I did request the ASET from excel as well, they gave me the following nugget:

We can certainly do these for you as we have a fully equipped diamond
lab here on premises, but honestly, I doubt very much that these
images will be useful or valid as Old Miners and Old European cut
diamonds were cut for maximum weight retention and not light
performance.

With the advent and introduction of the Ideal Cut round brilliant
based on the mathematical calculations of Marcel Towlkowsky in 1919
who derived a formula for the Ideal cut that would maximize light
refraction in terms of brilliance, dispersion, and scintillation,
reserch ws engaged to find tools that would be able to display the
characteristics of light refraction and performance of these specific
cut and paradigm. Thus, first the Idealscope and then the ASET were
developed for this purpose. Both tools are helpful but by no means are
they able to mimic the wonders of human vision and in our daily
evaluation of diamonds, we often review stones that face up much
better than is conveyed by either/or the Idealscope and ASET, and
therefore these data do have to be tempered by personal evaluation.

/end of their blurb

I do really like the August Vintage collection and I wonder how they compare to ERD's A Cut Beyond in regards to light performance. Size isn't the most important thing to me so much as being punched in the face with how beautiful the stone looks(she feels the same way). I have an idealized view of the stone sparkling in low light and/or "across the room" type situations, which I hear these antique or antique style cushions excel at.

 

[ariel144]

yes, you definitely have to view old cuts in person. If size is not that important and you want performance then I would definitely go with GOG or ERD or even OWD if this 1.46 does not look good, but who knows it might be really nice.

This 1.27 J on GOG even though it is an I1 is a lovely stone. People don't realize that stones this small an I1 might not be that bad of an inclusion to the naked eye (this inclusion is close to the edge of the crown). They will do a video of several of their stones, as you know.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10327/

Although this J is more elongated but smaller:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9738/

For the price and size in mm this .9 c is the best deal on ERD, but maybe he could find a more elongated stone for you.

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/index.php?file=diamond_details&gems_item_id=102943&first_step=diamond

You should also check Jewels by Erica Grace...you could end up with something like these with that 1.46c J

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/he-proposed-with-an-old-mine-brilliant.185622/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/he-proposed-with-an-old-mine-brilliant.185622/[/URL]

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/172ct-Loose-Old-Mine-Cut/16316147_RHhVGN#!i=1726268456&k=X4Nv3Qf

http://jewelsbyericagrace.com/loose_antique_and_estate_diamonds_page_2

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/155ct-Loose-Antique-Cut/19181072_nGc6pZ#!i=1495068599&k=Zq4K3rf

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/187ct-Loose-Antique-Cushion/14136440_VrwQKg#!i=1042436453&k=GfKfnTv

 

[ariel144]

You can OD here on cushions...enjoy!

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-cuts-a-collection.135031/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-cuts-a-collection.135031/[/URL]

 

[rearadmiral]

yes, you definitely have to view old cuts in person. If size is not that important and you want performance then I would definitely go with GOG or ERD or even OWD if this 1.46 does not look good, but who knows it might be really nice.

This 1.27 J on GOG even though it is an I1 is a lovely stone. People don't realize that stones this small an I1 might not be that bad of an inclusion to the naked eye (this inclusion is close to the edge of the crown). They will do a video of several of their stones, as you know.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10327/

Although this J is more elongated but smaller:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9738/

For the price and size in mm this .9 c is the best deal on ERD, but maybe he could find a more elongated stone for you.

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/index.php?file=diamond_details&gems_item_id=102943&first_step=diamond

You should also check Jewels by Erica Grace...you could end up with something like these with that 1.46c J

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/he-proposed-with-an-old-mine-brilliant.185622/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/he-proposed-with-an-old-mine-brilliant.185622/[/URL]

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/172ct-Loose-Old-Mine-Cut/16316147_RHhVGN#!i=1726268456&k=X4Nv3Qf

http://jewelsbyericagrace.com/loose_antique_and_estate_diamonds_page_2

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/155ct-Loose-Antique-Cut/19181072_nGc6pZ#!i=1495068599&k=Zq4K3rf

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/187ct-Loose-Antique-Cushion/14136440_VrwQKg#!i=1042436453&k=GfKfnTv

I definitely like these two:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9738/
http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/index.php?file=diamond_details&gems_item_id=102943&first_step=diamond

I'm hoping to get those pics tomorrow of that stone from excel so I can start narrowing down.

 

[rearadmiral]

You can OD here on cushions...enjoy!

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-cuts-a-collection.135031/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-cuts-a-collection.135031/[/URL]

Wow...lots of stuff in this thread! Thanks for all of your help by the way. I appreciate all of your input.

 

[meg_]

Ariel always finds the best cushions!

 

[ariel144]

yes, you definitely have to view old cuts in person. If size is not that important and you want performance then I would definitely go with GOG or ERD or even OWD if this 1.46 does not look good, but who knows it might be really nice.

This 1.27 J on GOG even though it is an I1 is a lovely stone. People don't realize that stones this small an I1 might not be that bad of an inclusion to the naked eye (this inclusion is close to the edge of the crown). They will do a video of several of their stones, as you know.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10327/

Although this J is more elongated but smaller:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9738/

For the price and size in mm this .9 c is the best deal on ERD, but maybe he could find a more elongated stone for you.

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/index.php?file=diamond_details&gems_item_id=102943&first_step=diamond

You should also check Jewels by Erica Grace...you could end up with something like these with that 1.46c J

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/he-proposed-with-an-old-mine-brilliant.185622/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/he-proposed-with-an-old-mine-brilliant.185622/[/URL]

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/172ct-Loose-Old-Mine-Cut/16316147_RHhVGN#!i=1726268456&k=X4Nv3Qf

http://jewelsbyericagrace.com/loose_antique_and_estate_diamonds_page_2

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/155ct-Loose-Antique-Cut/19181072_nGc6pZ#!i=1495068599&k=Zq4K3rf

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/187ct-Loose-Antique-Cushion/14136440_VrwQKg#!i=1042436453&k=GfKfnTv

I definitely like these two:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9738/
http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/index.php?file=diamond_details&gems_item_id=102943&first_step=diamond

I'm hoping to get those pics tomorrow of that stone from excel so I can start narrowing down.

Can't wait to see the faceting on that 1.46 J...it faces up like a 2 c cushion.

You might want to look at that elongated 1c E SI1 again on JA, I was watching a video on GOG and the AVC 4c N has a white transparent feather on the table and Jon states he cannot see it with his eyes, even with his reading glasses on. If you can't see it on a 4c stone I guarantee you won't be able to see it on a 1c stone:

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.01-carat-E-color-SI1-clarity-sku-30101

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_mBVrIOJc&list=UUEV7slr-i-VduBBnfv9MxhA&index=2

at the 4:25 min. mark the 4c N si2 has a white transparent feather on the table and he mentions it here.

 

[ariel144]

Ariel always finds the best cushions!

LOL, challenging to find those needles in the haystack....thanks!

 

[rearadmiral]

The pictures are now on the diamond's page:

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/Diamonds-1/EGL-USA-Graded-Old-Miner-Diamond-1-46-Carat-J-Color-VS2-Clarity-253238.html

It looks pretty much round. What do you think?

 

[JulieN]

Wht did excel say about the color? If it is a K/L? Or true J?

It doesn't seem to meet your original color and shape desires.

 

[rearadmiral]

Wht did excel say about the color? If it is a K/L? Or true J?

It doesn't seem to meet your original color and shape desires.

They didn't say anything besides giving me the pics. Given that it is a round stone, it does not meet my requirements. I am willing to flex on color if I cannot tell a difference.

 

[ariel144]

that is a beautiful OMC; but yes it is very round. The ASET and IDEAL scope look super to me for an old cut. the faceting is nice too. Well, it's not cushion shaped. They can be set in square settings and look just like a square cushion if you want a stone that large...7+mm for a great price, but since you wanted an elongated cushion I would go with the 1c E SI1 on JA.

I'm laughing cause I'm so surprised at how nice the ASET and Idealscope are for an old cut...what a deal! I was like wow.

I'm just a size junky...so to me it would be my choice for the $3700 and you could get a nicer setting to make it look square.

Take a look at the ASETS on GOG for his antique OEC's, and you will see how well this 1.46 will most likely perform...not much leakage at all. Also look at the ASETS on his custom cut AVR's...they are SO EXPENSIVE...more so than the AVC's.

Here's GOG's OEC 1.5 J VS2 by GIA, so similar to this 1.46 and the megascope is high. The price is way higher too, I'm sure.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9422/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamondResults.php?shape=16777216&ctMin=&ctMax=&clarity=&color=&sym=&polish=&agsCutGrd=&giaCutGrd=&cert=&certNum=&optSym=&tblMin=&tblMax=&depthMin=&depthMax=&crnAMin=&crnAMax=&crnDMin=&crnDMax=&pavAMin=&pavAMax=&pavDMin=&pavDMax=&grdlMin=&grdlMax=&fluo=&priceMin=&priceMax=&wireMin=&wireMax=&widthMin=&widthMax=&lenMin=&lenMax=&culet=&depthPctMin=&depthPctMax=&upGrdlMin=&upGrdlMax=&lowGrdlMin=&lowGrdlMax=&dateMin=&dateMax=&inHouse=&resultsColumns=402653199

If I had the $$ right now and you didn't choose that stone, I would buy it myself. Ditto on asking EXcel if it faces up like a true J.

 

[rearadmiral]

that is a beautiful OMC; but yes it is very round. The ASET and IDEAL scope look super to me for an old cut. the faceting is nice too. Well, it's not cushion shaped. They can be set in square settings and look just like a square cushion if you want a stone that large...7+mm for a great price, but since you wanted an elongated cushion I would go with the 1c E SI1 on JA.

I'm laughing cause I'm so surprised at how nice the ASET and Idealscope are for an old cut...what a deal! I was like wow.

I'm just a size junky...so to me it would be my choice for the $3700 and you could get a nicer setting to make it look square.

Take a look at the ASETS on GOG for his antique OEC's, and you will see how well this 1.46 will most likely perform...not much leakage at all. Also look at the ASETS on his custom cut AVR's...they are SO EXPENSIVE...more so than the AVC's.

Here's GOG's OEC 1.5 J VS2 by GIA, so similar to this 1.46 and the megascope is high. The price is way higher too, I'm sure.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9422/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamondResults.php?shape=16777216&ctMin=&ctMax=&clarity=&color=&sym=&polish=&agsCutGrd=&giaCutGrd=&cert=&certNum=&optSym=&tblMin=&tblMax=&depthMin=&depthMax=&crnAMin=&crnAMax=&crnDMin=&crnDMax=&pavAMin=&pavAMax=&pavDMin=&pavDMax=&grdlMin=&grdlMax=&fluo=&priceMin=&priceMax=&wireMin=&wireMax=&widthMin=&widthMax=&lenMin=&lenMax=&culet=&depthPctMin=&depthPctMax=&upGrdlMin=&upGrdlMax=&lowGrdlMin=&lowGrdlMax=&dateMin=&dateMax=&inHouse=&resultsColumns=402653199

If I had the $$ right now and you didn't choose that stone, I would buy it myself. Ditto on asking EXcel if it faces up like a true J.

Well I just asked if it faces up like a true J. So I'll report back on that when they respond. It certainly seems like a nice stone. My girlfriend will want to avoid hard edges like in a princess cut and she definitely prefers elongated over square. I wonder what kind of setting, if any, could produce a look like that. She definitely likes the halo look. So maybe that could be manipulated a bit.

I'm just wondering why that stone seems so cheap relative to its size/clarity and possibly color.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

The pictures are now on the diamond's page:

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/Diamonds-1/EGL-USA-Graded-Old-Miner-Diamond-1-46-Carat-J-Color-VS2-Clarity-253238.html

It looks pretty much round. What do you think?

This is not a cushion. If she is wanting a cushion, this is not a good option. Also it could look like GIA L color, so I would rule it out on that basis since you said you don't want a tinted stone. It also has a very thin girdle partially, which means the stone either has to be sent to have a little girdle polishing or else it has to be set in a bezel. I honestly would stick to what you came here for, a cushion in the near colorless range. I love the Good Old Gold AVC's.