Antique style cushion

[rearadmiral]

The pictures are now on the diamond's page:

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/Diamonds-1/EGL-USA-Graded-Old-Miner-Diamond-1-46-Carat-J-Color-VS2-Clarity-253238.html

It looks pretty much round. What do you think?

This is not a cushion. If she is wanting a cushion, this is not a good option. Also it could look like GIA L color, so I would rule it out on that basis since you said you don't want a tinted stone. It also has a very thin girdle partially, which means the stone either has to be sent to have a little girdle polishing or else it has to be set in a bezel. I honestly would stick to what you came here for, a cushion in the near colorless range. I love the Good Old Gold AVC's.

I definitely don't want a tinted stone, but I have yet to see how sensitive I am to the different colors. It would probably be safest to go with the AVCs or the a cut beyonds.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I truly think one of those is a better idea for an engagement ring. G-H-I color is pretty safe, but you should start seeing some tint in a J. I just wouldn't go below GIA/AGS J for an engagement ring (or EGL H for an antique stone) if you are all all concerned about seeing a tint.

 

[Niel]

i really love ths h ariel spotted. the Gs she found were nice too
http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.00-carat-H-color-VVS1-clarity-sku-179059

 

[ariel144]

Yes, if you don't want any tint and she doesn't want a real antique, then that OMB is not the stone.

The only one that ticks all her wishes for an elongated cushion is the one on JA,the 1c E SI1; the elongated J on GOG is not listed anymore, someone must have purchased it. the ones on ERD are not elongated either and face up smaller than the 1c E on JA.

while you are making up your mind I would advise you to put the 1c E on hold and ask for the ASET image. they will also be able to tell you if that white/clear feather is visible to the naked eye. I really like the faceting on the 1c E.

I would also ask ERD to see if they can source you an elongated cushion in your budget.

Once you get the ASET image and comments from the gemologist at JA, you can determine if that is the stone. JA has the best prices on these chunky cut cushions IMO. And if you are lucky enough to find one in your budget, it will probably be your best option.

Here is the closest stone on GOG to the one on JA and it is nearly double the price and not quite as elongated:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9739/


Did you watch the video on that 4c SI2 AVC that had the large white feather on the table that was not visible to the naked eye? Just because you can see inclusions on these highly magnified stones does not mean they will be visible to your eye.

I had a 2.1c radiant that had a large white feather on the crown outside the table and every once in a while i could see it when glancing at my stone, but it did not bother me at all...the stone was a great performer and large for it's weight and within my budget. Everyone has their own personal opinion on clarity and what they can tolerate. I also had a ring with a 1/2 carat diamond which my daughter found on the beach and didn't even know it was an I1 clarity until I had it appraised. Could not see any inclusions with the naked eye.

Usually, the smaller the stone the harder it is to see the inclusions.

Here is another elongated on JA cushion brilliant ...not as chunky cut but really nice D VS1...it is beautiful too.

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.00-carat-D-color-VS1-clarity-sku-128553

JA will give you ASETS on 3 stones...I would choose that 1c H, 1c E and 1c D. The gemologist will also tell you which one he likes best as far as performance goes.

Cushions are probably the most challenging when it comes to finding the right stone....keep going you will find "the one".

 

[Niel]

i also like this one, if you click to reserve it itll tell you the price, i think its 5300
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9745/

 

[ariel144]

i also like this one, if you click to reserve it itll tell you the price, i think its 5300
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9745/

Yes, didn't see that one...it is really nice. Yikes, so many nice stones to choose from.

 

[Niel]

i also like this one, if you click to reserve it itll tell you the price, i think its 5300
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9745/

Yes, didn't see that one...it is really nice. Yikes, so many nice stones to choose from.

Yeah its not a AVC so it gets hidden when your searching. GOG has a few random stones i like but you dont find them unless you search only by generic shape.

Faces up nice and very white, and looks like it performs good

 

[ariel144]

Here are two more choices...missed the "AVC" cut before...deeper but still faces up nicely like the other 1c E.

Your AVC cut without the price...OMG another choice...lovely with the Kozibe effect (culet reflections)
Surprising that it actually is an 8 main cushion brilliant as it has the "maltese cross" like the old mine cut.
James Allen really bringing the nicer cushions these days for great prices.

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.05-carat-E-color-SI1-clarity-sku-169561

large cushion brilliant

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.18-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-sku-82347

 

[rearadmiral]

Here are two more choices...missed the "AVC" cut before...deeper but still faces up nicely like the other 1c E.

Your AVC cut without the price...OMG another choice...lovely with the Kozibe effect (culet reflections)
Surprising that it actually is an 8 main cushion brilliant as it has the "maltese cross" like the old mine cut.
James Allen really bringing the nicer cushions these days for great prices.

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.05-carat-E-color-SI1-clarity-sku-169561

large cushion brilliant

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.18-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-sku-82347

Wow so many new choices today! Which one is the one that is an 8 main cushion?

 

[rearadmiral]

i also like this one, if you click to reserve it itll tell you the price, i think its 5300
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9745/

Yes, didn't see that one...it is really nice. Yikes, so many nice stones to choose from.

Doesn't the ASET on this one look a little weak? Not too much red in there. Lots of green.

 

[JulieN]

IMO that's a very good ASET... It's not an AVC.

For what its worth, it maxes out the Firetrace.

 

[Niel]

i also like this one, if you click to reserve it itll tell you the price, i think its 5300
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9745/

Yes, didn't see that one...it is really nice. Yikes, so many nice stones to choose from.

Doesn't the ASET on this one look a little weak? Not too much red in there. Lots of green.

It only tells so much of the store, the megascope shows it is a good performer.

 

[rearadmiral]

Okay thank you for the input. Is this the 8 main?

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.18-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-sku-82347

I like how it looks in JA's little video of it.

 

[JulieN]

THIS is a nice looking rectangular cushion brilliant... not available anymore, I had it saved in my favorites: http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/0.86-carat-E-color-VS1-clarity-sku-163923

You know, I would check with them if it has been sold or if just on hold... and to let you know if it does not sell. It is $4.5K

 

[rearadmiral]

Well I asked JA for ASETs and a comparison on these 3 stones as well as additional info on that feather in the E/SI1.

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.01-carat-E-color-SI1-clarity-sku-30101
http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.00-carat-D-color-VS1-clarity-sku-128553
http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.00-carat-H-color-VVS1-clarity-sku-179059

 

[ariel144]

Okay thank you for the input. Is this the 8 main?

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.18-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-sku-82347

I like how it looks in JA's little video of it.

All cushion brilliants are 8 main cushions. Their facet pattern can differ from chunky, antique like facets to more brilliant faceting (not splintery facets but less chunky like the 1.18c. I think all of these I have posted above are cushion brilliants (8 main star points...check the cert. to see the facet pattern) that you are considering. But JA has listed some Old Mine Brilliants too. Oops, looked again and the 1.18 is a 6 main cushion brilliant with more modern faceting pattern (not chunky/antique).

here's a thread on cushion faceting and the kozibe effect

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/modern-cushion-vs-antique-cushion.23890/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/modern-cushion-vs-antique-cushion.23890/page-2[/URL]

 

[ariel144]

Well I asked JA for ASETs and a comparison on these 3 stones as well as additional info on that feather in the E/SI1.

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.01-carat-E-color-SI1-clarity-sku-30101
http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.00-carat-D-color-VS1-clarity-sku-128553
http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.00-carat-H-color-VVS1-clarity-sku-179059

Good choices...i would also add this 1.05 E SI1 Very nice...deeper and with the Kozibe effect...it might be more "eye clean"...don't know about that little dot. Faces up almost identical to the other E SI 1...you should make matching studs...LOL!

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.05-carat-E-color-SI1-clarity-sku-169561

 

[rearadmiral]

Well I asked JA for ASETs and a comparison on these 3 stones as well as additional info on that feather in the E/SI1.

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.01-carat-E-color-SI1-clarity-sku-30101
http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.00-carat-D-color-VS1-clarity-sku-128553
http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.00-carat-H-color-VVS1-clarity-sku-179059

Good choices...i would also add this 1.05 E SI1 Very nice...deeper and with the Kozibe effect...it might be more "eye clean"...don't know about that little dot. Faces up almost identical to the other E SI 1...you should make matching studs...LOL!

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.05-carat-E-color-SI1-clarity-sku-169561

Heh. I'm wondering what that Maltese cross stone would look like in real life. It looks so dark in the picture.

 

[rearadmiral]

Excel just let me know that the 1.46 omc faces up like a G.

 

[rearadmiral]

Okay thank you for the input. Is this the 8 main?

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.18-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-sku-82347

I like how it looks in JA's little video of it.

All cushion brilliants are 8 main cushions. Their facet pattern can differ from chunky, antique like facets to more brilliant faceting (not splintery facets but less chunky like the 1.18c. I think all of these I have posted above are cushion brilliants (8 main star points...check the cert. to see the facet pattern) that you are considering. But JA has listed some Old Mine Brilliants too. Oops, looked again and the 1.18 is a 6 main cushion brilliant with more modern faceting pattern (not chunky/antique).

here's a thread on cushion faceting and the kozibe effect

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/modern-cushion-vs-antique-cushion.23890/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/modern-cushion-vs-antique-cushion.23890/page-2[/URL]

The 1.18 looks like it has 8 points. The d vs1 looks like it has 6.

 

[ariel144]

Excel just let me know that the 1.46 omc faces up like a G.

OK, that is really awesome....here is an old cut round in a cushion setting...it sold as soon as he listed it for $4k (the setting is fantastic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceIgxYV0nxE

You might want to reconsider that OMB at Excel...so really large for the price.

Here's a GIA J 5c honker that faces up really white:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/leon-mege-antique-cushion.140739/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/leon-mege-antique-cushion.140739/[/URL]

Her story on page 3:

"So at the end of the day and after months of searching we decided to go ahead with Leon''s stone and I just love it. The J doesn''t bother me at all and mostly it looks icy white and I only notice a tiny bit of warmth very occasionally from certain angles (my e-ring is an E and there is a very slight difference but really not very much)."

 

[ariel144]

Okay thank you for the input. Is this the 8 main?

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.18-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-sku-82347

I like how it looks in JA's little video of it.

All cushion brilliants are 8 main cushions. Their facet pattern can differ from chunky, antique like facets to more brilliant faceting (not splintery facets but less chunky like the 1.18c. I think all of these I have posted above are cushion brilliants (8 main star points...check the cert. to see the facet pattern) that you are considering. But JA has listed some Old Mine Brilliants too. Oops, looked again and the 1.18 is a 6 main cushion brilliant with more modern faceting pattern (not chunky/antique).

here's a thread on cushion faceting and the kozibe effect

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/modern-cushion-vs-antique-cushion.23890/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/modern-cushion-vs-antique-cushion.23890/page-2[/URL]

The 1.18 looks like it has 8 points. The d vs1 looks like it has 6.

Yes, saw that...see my "oops!" That would be a double oops...yes the D has 6 So they all don't have 8 mains...some have 6...saw one about a year ago with 6 mains...sorry my mistake.

 

[rearadmiral]

Is there anything to know about 6 mains? The stone still looks very nice.

 

[rearadmiral]

Excel just let me know that the 1.46 omc faces up like a G.

OK, that is really awesome....here is an old cut round in a cushion setting...it sold as soon as he listed it for $4k (the setting is fantastic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceIgxYV0nxE

You might want to reconsider that OMB at Excel...so really large for the price.

Here's a GIA J 5c honker that faces up really white:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/leon-mege-antique-cushion.140739/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/leon-mege-antique-cushion.140739/[/URL]

Her story on page 3:

"So at the end of the day and after months of searching we decided to go ahead with Leon''s stone and I just love it. The J doesn''t bother me at all and mostly it looks icy white and I only notice a tiny bit of warmth very occasionally from certain angles (my e-ring is an E and there is a very slight difference but really not very much)."

Both of these do look very nice! I'll have to discuss with her to see how she feels. Maybe I'll just have to go see the stone in person.

 

[rearadmiral]

I just had excel put the 1.46 on hold after speaking to my gf. She is very open to an antique stone with a little history. She refined her fondness for cushions: she likes the look of a "stone within a stone." So this explains why she likes halos for settings as well. So if you look at antique cushions the chunky facets inside look different compared to those on the outside.

I'm going to visit NYC soon to check that stone out and hopefully others. I am very excited for this stone if it faces up that clear and looks nice. Plus I will have a lot more money for a nice setting then as well!

 

[04diamond<3]

I think it looks great and a great price for a 1.46!!!!

 

[ariel144]

I will just say I love square cut cushions and cushions of any shape, they have always been my dream stone. After watching the videos on GOG on his AVR's I fell in love with the facet pattern of the OEC's and I love them as much as the antique cut cushions. Love the history behind the real antiques too.

After seeing so many antique OEC's in cushion halos, seems you have the best of both worlds. With the size of the 1.46 she will most likely never want for a larger diamond when it is set in a halo, but obviously only she can decide if she likes that look.

Here is another OEC set in a beautiful halo from Victor Canera. Shows the lovely chunky faceting of an OEC/OMB...enjoy!

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/vc-emilya-halo-w-single-cut-multi-row-pave-pic-overload.185195/page-3']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/vc-emilya-halo-w-single-cut-multi-row-pave-pic-overload.185195/page-3[/URL]

more pics and videos

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/vc-emilya-halo-w-single-cut-multi-row-pave-pic-overload.185195/page-3']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/vc-emilya-halo-w-single-cut-multi-row-pave-pic-overload.185195/page-3[/URL]


Ok, I finally had a little time to get out into the sunshine today. I took a few videos, but be warned that the quality is not great - it's hard to keep your hand still! Photos will be next...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJkSu5BBSkw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBrex0N9VTU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiwJzjZe9cM

 

[ariel144]

Is there anything to know about 6 mains? The stone still looks very nice.

Just a slightly diff. facet pattern...still lovely.

 

[ariel144]

here's what you can do with an OMB...LOL! Note the O/P color...like OMG!:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273-150.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273-150.html[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273-240.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273-240.html[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273.html[/URL]

 

[rearadmiral]

here's what you can do with an OMB...LOL! Note the O/P color...like OMG!:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273-150.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273-150.html[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273-240.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273-240.html[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/rdg-setting-4-09ct-omc-pink-diamonds-and-a-double-halo-t171273.html[/URL]

Wow that is really fantastic. As well as the other halo you posted earlier. I'm now very excited to see this OMC stone in person to see how pretty it looks. I'm wondering what kind of settings I could get for ~2k now...