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sk8rjen

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How''s Greece? I know you can''t explain a lot b/c of your connection, but give us something!
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So any chance this trip will involve sparklies??
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hope you''re havin'' fun!
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jen
 
Oooh, I second that!

selkie
 
Bump...
we wanna hear about Greece!
 
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No sparklies but...
Greece was wonderful! I think it''s my new favorite place. Fortunately (for me) his conference seriously bit, so he didn''t feel too bad about skipping chunks.
We had a super wonderful and very romantic time. Not even the two dreadful twin beds put a crimp in things. (although I''ll never believe frommer''s reviews again). I don''t think we''ve ever spent so much time together and we''ve never been on this sort of romantic vacation. I feel like I learn new things about him every day from the big to the small. For instance, I had no idea he was so interested in ancient ruins! As you may have guess from my username, I''m rather fond of them myself.
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Traveling really teaches you about the other person and it''s amazing at how well we get along.


There were a decent number of people at the conference from his company and a related sibling company. They uniformly assumed we were married! I did discover one reason why our budget is the size that it is. I didn''t see a single wife there with any bling bigger than itsy, and most actually only had a plain wedding band! (oh the horror
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We''re talking about people with over $100k salaries. It''s kind of funny really, the company probably has the largest collection of non-materialistic millionaires on the planet! Seems like guys base their expectations on what they see around them, and what he sees is that a diamond e-ring is purely symbolic and a tad bit frivolous. But he knows I really want one even if he doesn''t understand it.

So the combination of being introduced by strangers to other strangers as ___''s wife and literally hundreds of jewelry stores caused me to totally break down. Despite my best efforts I just had to bring the subject up. To my shock, instead of irritation I get blank confusion... as to why I would be nervous about bringing the subject up. (um hello?)
So I have a green light to discuss marriage, engagement, and even engagement rings as much as I want! (although I''ll try not to terrify him by showing how obsessed I am!
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) He''s even amenable to being shown rings. Of course I''m insanely busy for a few more days so he has a brief reprieve.
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The absolutely best news is that he reacted negatively when I mentioned getting engaged after his sister''s wedding in the fall! He doesn''t want to wait that long. *happy dance* Although I''m not firmly convinced that waiting wouldn''t be such a bad idea. I don''t want to get off on the wrong foot with my fsil.
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We had such a great time together and are even closer and more in sync! It was really hard to go back to our separate houses when we got back. The next day we went shopping for groceries for our respective places and he looked down at our almost identical baskets and joked about how much more economical it''ll be when we''re married!

I really really did not de-jetlag well on the way home, and something happened to make me puff up like a balloon creature. Yesterday I felt worse than I have felt with the flu! I still feel like I''ve been beaten with sticks. (it''s not like this is my first time to europe, weird) And he''s not keen on jet-lag either, so we''re both currently a tad bit unenthused on the concept of a wedding that requires major plane flights and any sort of jet-lag. I think his new idea is maybe getting legally married in the states and then flying to Mexico for the spiritual wedding (since it''s straight down from here). er.... ok. worth pondering. Oh, and I had confirmation that our siblings'' upcoming weddings have traumatized him on wedding planning. So elopement plus family it is.
At anyrate, he''s thinking about it! YAY!
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Oh, and he bought me the cutest dolphin earrings that I really wanted!
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Funny how happy any kind of jewelry from him makes me.


So Summary: Great romantic time, no e-ring but adorable earrings, conversation on subject is now allowed, confirmed timeline, and he''s really looking forward to being married.
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That''s great news Indie! I''m so glad everything went well, that you had a blast and that the lines of communication are open! Go you!
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I hear you on guys basing their expectations on what they see around them... It''s not exactly working in my favour here either...
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Sounds like a fantastic time and I''m so happy for you that he''s so enthused about your future engagement!! Any pics?? A new couples pictures thread started up while you were away...

Glad you''re back and happy
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jen
 
I''m so glad you had a good time in Greece. I am so jealous! Greece and Turkey are in my top 3 of places I NEED to visit in my lifetime.

It sounds like your boyfriend can finally focus on engagement planning. When my boyfriend was working on his portfolio and the presentation he had to make to graduate he could not thing about ANYTHING else, but as soon as that was over he was all gung ho about the subject. Men just cannot multi-task it seems.

And I wouldn''t worry too much about getting engaged too close to his sisters wedding. I think as long as you dont announce it that day or the day before maybe that it should be fine.

Well I hope we have more happy updates from you soon!
 
Welcome back! Sounds like the trip went really well. Always wanted to go to Greece myself, maybe someday. Any pics to share?

Also, congrats on the progress towards engagement.
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Oh, Greece, I have always wanted to see it! Sounds like you had a great trip...
 
Fantastic! Glad to hear it went so well, and it sounds like things are really progressing. It''s your window of opportunity, take advantage! I hope you feel better, soon.

Selkie
 
Date: 5/3/2006 10:12:02 PM
Author: IndieJones
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I did discover one reason why our budget is the size that it is. I didn''t see a single wife there with any bling bigger than itsy, and most actually only had a plain wedding band! (oh the horror
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We''re talking about people with over $100k salaries. It''s kind of funny really, the company probably has the largest collection of non-materialistic millionaires on the planet! Seems like guys base their expectations on what they see around them, and what he sees is that a diamond e-ring is purely symbolic and a tad bit frivolous. But he knows I really want one even if he doesn''t understand it.
I''m wondering if the women who did have bling left it at home for the trip... My mom doesn''t like to flaunt her jewelry when traveling and I tend to only take my fake stuff.

Sounds like a fantastic trip!
 
That''s great news!!! Hope you are feeling better soon
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Sounds like you had a great trip! That''s wonderful that the two of you were able to talk and sort of re-connect about the issue. And you went to Greece, how fabulous!!

I''m glad it went well for you!
 
I''m feeling much better now, thank you!
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I didn''t get all the way back to feeling normal until after a hike and a hot tub on friday.
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Water is your friend.
Greece was beautiful, the climate and foliage reminded me of Malibu even down to some stray Eucalyptus trees. (how on earth did they get to an island in greece???) But Malibu doesn''t have crumbling castles, columns, and clusters of white houses clinging to a hillside. It doesn''t also have goat crossing signs everywhere. I wonder how people get their goats back?
No couple pics though, my SO is a very private man and would hate it. Shame, he''s really handsome.
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Things are still really good between us. Not only are we closer than we were before the trip, but casual mention of things related to marriage and engagement seem to go over just fine now. (i.e. He mentioned how much he wanted a ''proper'' barbecue set-up so we could have bb-q parties, and I said well at least we''ll have something to register for. He seemed to think that was a good idea!) Also I sent him an email full of ring pics and asked about it later. He hadn''t looked at it yet, but he didn''t seem unhappy or stressed about it.
Probably the best news is that he can buy stuff now and I don''t have that treacherous thought going through my head that it''s taking away from the ring budget. I''ve totally relaxed about it. Clearly a large part of my stressing over the budget was that I felt neglected, but now that ph.d hell is over with it''s all good. Besides, I doubt it''s a function of going on a trip that the wives had a low bling quotient. It''s just that the micro-culture is almost aggressively non-materialistic.
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If I showed up with a carat+ diamond, I might be shunned!
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I''m now focusing on a .25 - .4 Tiffany etoile ring. It''s perfect! Small, comfortable, elegant, and still has that Tiffany factor to satisfy the snob in me. I''m very happy PS introduced me to Signed Pieces, they seem to have a steady flow of them. You get the Tiffany name without the Tiffany markup!
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But we''ll see what he thinks of the rings pic email.
 
Glad to hear your trip went so well! Don''t suppose you would want to show us any pictures?
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Yes, I would love to see any of your pics of Greece too! I''ve always wanted to go there.
 
One of my friends is going there this summer and got a great deal. Well, glad you are feeling better. Oh and post the pics anyways..**we wont tell** lol
 
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