Band width

[grosx2]

I've decided to move forward on a 2.425 carat round from WF, and am looking for some advice on settings.

She wants a thin pave band, but is there a certain width I shouldn't go under, based on the size of the stone? She tried on 2.0mm and 2.4mm bands in person and preferred the thinner one, and has looked at even thinner ones online....just wondering if, at some point, a band becomes too thin for a larger stone, with regards to both aesthetics as well as the security of the stone...

 

[foxinsox]

Yes. A solid band, you’d want to go no thinner than 2mm. A pave band, you want someone who is very good at pave, and you’ll want a thicker band since you’re punching holes throughout it to put the melee into it. The other thing to consider for security is look at how you’re attaching the head and basket to the shank of the ring. A cathedral setting where the arms come up and attach to the side of the basket is more secure than one where you have a single point of attachment.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

Congradulations on your engagement

Personally i can't wait for the thin band to go out of fashion

But @foxinsox has already given you really good advice

 

[grosx2]

Yes. A solid band, you’d want to go no thinner than 2mm. A pave band, you want someone who is very good at pave, and you’ll want a thicker band since you’re punching holes throughout it to put the melee into it. The other thing to consider for security is look at how you’re attaching the head and basket to the shank of the ring. A cathedral setting where the arms come up and attach to the side of the basket is more secure than one where you have a single point of attachment.

Appreciate the feedback. So don't go under 2mm? There are a couple 2.2's on WF that she likes...

Could you elaborate a bit more on "someone who is very good at pave"? I was just planning on getting the setting from WF, since I'm buying the diamond there....should I be looking for a custom jeweler that specializes in pave?

I don't know much about setting types, would you happen to have a pic of a cathedral setting?

Sorry for all the questions!

 

[foxinsox]

Ok here’s some examples - excuse my lack of terminology as I’m not 100% sure of some of the names of the parts.
Peg head - not sure if this style has a specific name but it doesn’t have any connection point other than one single point. This one gives me the horrors especially for larger stones as there’s one weld holding it together and that is just asking for shearing issues.
Not a cathedral but the basket has a donut and is sunk into the band so has more metal to support the basket.
Subtle cathedral - part of the basket/head of the ring.
Cathedral with separate support ‘arms’.
Re the pave, I had missed it’s Whiteflash. They’re not pave specialists per se but they are very good at what they do and their quality control is generally also very good.

 

[grosx2]

Ok here’s some examples - excuse my lack of terminology as I’m not 100% sure of some of the names of the parts.
Peg head - not sure if this style has a specific name but it doesn’t have any connection point other than one single point. This one gives me the horrors especially for larger stones as there’s one weld holding it together and that is just asking for shearing issues.
Not a cathedral but the basket has a donut and is sunk into the band so has more metal to support the basket.
Subtle cathedral - part of the basket/head of the ring.
Cathedral with separate support ‘arms’.
Re the pave, I had missed it’s Whiteflash. They’re not pave specialists per se but they are very good at what they do and their quality control is generally also very good.

Very helpful, much appreciated!!

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Thin bands look great in pictures.
They are great for bench jewelers - keeps them employed replacing popped out small diamonds and straightening them. And eventually replacing them with a practical band.
Consider also attaching a setting to a band under 2.5mm with a large diamond simply must have some shoulders and other points of contact as a single solder join (even pinned) at the base of the setting is asking for trouble.

 

[grosx2]

Thin bands look great in pictures.
They are great for bench jewelers - keeps them employed replacing popped out small diamonds and straightening them. And eventually replacing them with a practical band.
Consider also attaching a setting to a band under 2.5mm with a large diamond simply must have some shoulders and other points of contact as a single solder join (even pinned) at the base of the setting is asking for trouble.

Thanks!

 

[luvmysparklies]

Maybe another option could be a knife edge, which would give the thinner face on look, but with the strength recommended above

Classic Knife Edge Engagement Ring from Whiteflash | 734

Classic Knife Edge Engagement Ring from Whiteflash. A classic design that cuts deep into the heart of love. | 734

www.whiteflash.com

6 Prong Solitaire Engagement Ring by Vatche | 1778

6 Prong Solitaire Engagement Ring by Vatche. Experience classic elegance with the timeless beauty of the 6 prong solitaire engagement ring by Vatche. | 1778

www.whiteflash.com

 

[grosx2]

Maybe another option could be a knife edge, which would give the thinner face on look, but with the strength recommended above

Classic Knife Edge Engagement Ring from Whiteflash | 734

Classic Knife Edge Engagement Ring from Whiteflash. A classic design that cuts deep into the heart of love. | 734

www.whiteflash.com

6 Prong Solitaire Engagement Ring by Vatche | 1778

6 Prong Solitaire Engagement Ring by Vatche. Experience classic elegance with the timeless beauty of the 6 prong solitaire engagement ring by Vatche. | 1778

www.whiteflash.com

Thanks for the recommendations!

 

[grosx2]

@foxinsox @Garry H (Cut Nut)
Would this be a good choice for a 2.4 carat round? I'm thinking that the 6 prongs and multiple points of attachment would provide a good measure of security, plus I really love the look of this one!

I'm hopeful that WF/Vatche will be able to accommodate a larger stone than what is listed on WF (max of 1.99)...

Vatche Swan French Pave Diamond Engagement Ring | 2820

Elevate your proposal with the stunning Vatche Swan French Pave Diamond Engagement Ring. A timeless symbol of love and commitment. | 2820

www.whiteflash.com

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

@foxinsox @Garry H (Cut Nut)
Would this be a good choice for a 2.4 carat round? I'm thinking that the 6 prongs and multiple points of attachment would provide a good measure of security, plus I really love the look of this one!

I'm hopeful that WF/Vatche will be able to accommodate a larger stone than what is listed on WF (max of 1.99)...

Vatche Swan French Pave Diamond Engagement Ring | 2820

Elevate your proposal with the stunning Vatche Swan French Pave Diamond Engagement Ring. A timeless symbol of love and commitment. | 2820

www.whiteflash.com

That is a structurally safe ring. Does it matter that a wedding ring will not sit flush?

 

[headlight]

Want to mention in addition to the great advice you’ve been given here is that a super narrow band with your diamond is an ergonomic comfort issue. You will experience spinning and fit issues. Definitely not comfortable.

 

[grosx2]

That is a structurally safe ring. Does it matter that a wedding ring will not sit flush?

Thanks, I didn't even notice/consider that, but I see it now looking at the side view.

...I guess that's a question for her!

 

[grosx2]

Want to mention in addition to the great advice you’ve been given here is that a super narrow band with your diamond is an ergonomic comfort issue. You will experience spinning and fit issues. Definitely not comfortable.

Thanks, do you think that over 2mm would avoid that issue?

 

[grosx2]

@Garry H (Cut Nut) is this what a wedding band might look like with this setting?

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

The wedding band on the left has been outlawed by the FTC - its official name is a diamond chain saw ring and has destroyed several million engagement rings.
On the right is the gap you will get, and the diamonds in the side of the E ring will be destroyed by the chain saw and will also help kill the rotten #$%&*@#

 

[grosx2]

The wedding band on the left has been outlawed by the FTC - its official name is a diamond chain saw ring and has destroyed several million engagement rings.
On the right is the gap you will get, and the diamonds in the side of the E ring will be destroyed by the chain saw and will also help kill the rotten #$%&*@#

Well that's crazy!

Do you have a preference on 4 vs 6 prong for 2+ carat rounds? I'm leaning towards 6, for both security and appearance, seems to accentuate the roundness of the stone better...

 

[kb1gra]

Well that's crazy!

Do you have a preference on 4 vs 6 prong for 2+ carat rounds? I'm leaning towards 6, for both security and appearance, seems to accentuate the roundness of the stone better...

Yes, 6. Also the Vatche settings are very well made.

 

[tyty333]

I like 6 prongs.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Well that's crazy!

Do you have a preference on 4 vs 6 prong for 2+ carat rounds? I'm leaning towards 6, for both security and appearance, seems to accentuate the roundness of the stone better...

6 protects way better and looks classier in my opinion