Best of the 3 from James Allen?

[babudia]

Which is the best choice of the 3? Thank you in advance.

1) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1306904.asp
**Below is the IdealScope image and the Hearts for Diamond 1.***
2) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1306907.asp
3) http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1306903.asp

Russell

 

[Stephan]

Haha, you really want a high crown + long star facets.
Seems like they come from the same cutter.
I'll take
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1306904.asp
for the clarity/color combo and the 40.6 pavilion with such a high crown.

 

[tyty333]

Ditto The Queen...1.01 J/VS2

Edit - request an idealscope image to be sure

 

[Stephan]

Hi Tyty!
Babudia, are you searching for steep crowns?
Did you compare such diamonds with more traditional H&As?

 

[stone-cold11]

Both JA H&A stones have asym hearts, not something I am willing to pay a premium for.

For you budget, I would go with this if eye-clean, ask for an idealscope image.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1303140.asp

Or this.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1306372.asp

 

[yssie]

either the J VS2 or the J SI1 - the other could be fine to your eyes too, but you'd have to wait to get the IS in and - well, why bother when you have two perfectly good alternates

 

[Stephan]

Both JA H&A stones have asym hearts, not something I am willing to pay a premium for.

For you budget, I would go with this if eye-clean, ask for an idealscope image.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1303140.asp

Or this.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1306372.asp

Wow Stone, I really like the red one!
How did you find it so fast?

 

[yssie]

Both JA H&A stones have asym hearts, not something I am willing to pay a premium for.

For you budget, I would go with this if eye-clean, ask for an idealscope image.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1303140.asp

Or this.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1306372.asp

Reckon the hearts pic on the third is more likely a photography issue - they look symmetric round the N/S axis n? - I see the clefting on the first though

 

[Stephan]

Both JA H&A stones have asym hearts, not something I am willing to pay a premium for.

Aren't you a little picky here?
The IS picture looks great, and the price is certainly not abusive?

 

[makhro82]

I don't know your budget, but I like this one: http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/7831/

 

[babudia]

Hi QueenMum,
What kind of effect does steep crowns have?

Thank you

 

[Stephan]

Hi QueenMum,
What kind of effect does steep crowns have?

Thank you

They are often believed to have more fire.

 

[babudia]

Hi QueenMum,
What kind of effect does steep crowns have?

Thank you

They are often believed to have more fire.

More fire is good right?

 

[Stephan]

More fire is good right?

It depends on what you like.

 

[Stephan]

Stone,
Here are pictures of my 2 new BGD diamonds.
I'm not a specialist, so do you think the hearts look better than on the JA above?
I can't see any big difference.
http://www.diamonds.briangavindiamonds.com/images/hearts/H_AGS-104048050043.jpg
and
http://www.diamonds.briangavindiamonds.com/images/hearts/H_AGS-104048050045.jpg

 

[yssie]

Hi QueenMum,
What kind of effect does steep crowns have?

Thank you

They are often believed to have more fire.

More fire is good right?

I have had shallow-crown shallow-pavilion stone and a 36c/40.6p stone like this (actually 35.7c avg). The steep-c/shallow-p (try searching the term FIC on PS) was darker in most lighting environments than the shallow stone, but it showed coloured light in many more lighting types than any other stone I have owned. This is what we mean by more fire: not more quantitatively than another stone - in the right light you could probably coerce sparkles from rough - but the existence of colour in lighting types where other differently-proportioned stones show only white light. The downside to this type of stone is body darkness, generally face-up slightly smaller, and less brilliant white light return by comparison

 

[stone-cold11]

Stone,
Here are pictures of my 2 new BGD diamonds.
I'm not a specialist, so do you think the hearts look better than on the JA above?
I can't see any big difference.
http://www.diamonds.briangavindiamonds.com/images/hearts/H_AGS-104048050043.jpg
and
http://www.diamonds.briangavindiamonds.com/images/hearts/H_AGS-104048050045.jpg

I look at the tip of the hearts and there look like there is a disjoint, similar to the 3rd image from the left. This is from the article by Brian Gavin, http://www.pricescope.com/journal/hearts_and_arrows_diamonds_and_basics_diamond_cutting



The 0045 stone has several disjointed halves, 2, 5, 8 and 10 o'clock. The 0043, less pronounced at 5, 11 o'clock.

 

[Stephan]

Thank you for your answer Stone!

 

[stone-cold11]

Reckon the hearts pic on the third is more likely a photography issue - they look symmetric round the N/S axis n? - I see the clefting on the first though

Looks too significant to me to be photography issue. JA can re-take the images to prove me wrong.

 

[stone-cold11]

Both JA H&A stones have asym hearts, not something I am willing to pay a premium for.

Aren't you a little picky here?
The IS picture looks great, and the price is certainly not abusive?

Err... IS looks good but price is certainly high when with the same price you can get a 0.1carat larger stone if you do not care about the hearts image, right?

 

[Stephan]

Not really: one is medium blue and the other is a (lovely) (table inclusion) SI1.
I still like the first one OP posted.

 

[babudia]

Not really: one is medium blue and the other is a (lovely) (table inclusion) SI1.
I still like the first one OP posted.

Sorry..which is the first one OP posted...Thanks..

 

[Stephan]

You are OP original poster.
So the first stone is the J-VS2.

 

[babudia]

You are OP original poster.
So the first stone is the J-VS2.

Duh...thanks QueenMum...

 

[Stephan]

You are welcome.
Here is another recent topic about TrueHearts hearts...
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/diamond-comparison-confusion.153345/

 

[YoungPapa]

Reckon the hearts pic on the third is more likely a photography issue - they look symmetric round the N/S axis n? - I see the clefting on the first though

Looks too significant to me to be photography issue. JA can re-take the images to prove me wrong.

Per your suggestion, here is a retake on the 1.07ct J-SI1. We are going to review all of the images after the New Year and retake anything that appears questionable.

All the best,

 

[yssie]

Thanks Jim!

And that is an enterprising project - all the best, I think your customers will be pleased with the efforts

 

[babudia]

either the J VS2 or the J SI1 - the other could be fine to your eyes too, but you'd have to wait to get the IS in and - well, why bother when you have two perfectly good alternates

Hello everyone,
Finally got the IS of the I VS2 RB. What do you think of it compared to the J VS2? got 24 hours to decide. Or if there are any other alternatives RB, let me know. Thank you in advance.

Idealscope I VS2:

 

[stone-cold11]

leakage present, not to par with the other Js in terms of light return.

 

[Stephan]

Ditto Stone, this is not a bad stone, but I prefer the J.