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Bia

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Now I'm just getting annoyed...and even a little depressed.
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Just to give some background:

My BF and I have been together (ETA: what will be-->) 7 years in April. Yup, 7. Last year at this time, we eagerly discussed marriage and how we both felt we'd be ready to get married in the next two years or so ('09-'10). Soon afterwards, he told me that he wanted this to be the year he proposed. This happened in Jan or Feb...maybe March. I joined PS in late March, so it was some time before that. Needless to say, I was thrilled, and that was when I started really thinking--okay obsessing--about the whole engagement-ring-proposal thing.

So to reiterate, in March I joined PS and started researching my dream ring, and of course, began obsessing about the engagement. In everyone else's excitement (my friends, family, my fellow LIW), I got a little carried away and began obsessing to my BF. At which point he told me I needed to stop--that he wanted to do this on his own and he wanted it to be a surprise. With the help of my PS gals, giving me much needed advice, I was able to put a lid on it and let it go for a good while.

Here's my issue: Over the last 6 months or so, there have been a few occasions where I thought he might pop the question. One biggie was in August when we went away for a week. Of course, there wasn't a proposal, and although I was a teensy bit disappointed, I got over it because I knew he'd do it when he was ready to. Now, over the last few months, there have been other times I thought he might do it, but, again, he hasn't. Just to clarify, my BF is wonderful. He is the love of my life, my best friend (it sounds cliché, but its true--blah!), you get what I'm saying. The thing is, I am really starting to get sad when I think about why he hasn't asked me yet. I almost feel like he's playing games...waiting until the very last minute. I think I said earlier this year in a LIW thread that it would be just like him to wait until 11:59 on New Year's Eve to ask me, but at the time I WAS KIDDING! Now I am beginning to think he probably will. Or even worse, he isn't even planning on doing it this year.

Please, all of you be honest with me. I can take the criticism (really, I can--come at me with all you got) because I need semi-objective input. All my cousins and friends are waiting for him to pop the question, so they aren't any help--really they're useless. You guys are so great about helping a girl see what's really there.

What do you think???

Also, just FYI: I know absolutely nothing about a ring--whether he is really actively looking or whether he purchased one already. There was a time that he was asking me to show him what I like, but after I did, all discussions ceased and I haven't heard anything since. Now I just pretend that I have stopped thinking about the whole thing. In other words, I am acting my you-know-what off.
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I know your frustration! You and I both joined around the same time (3 days apart) and I think you know most of my story as well. Have you stopped all together on discussing rings? If so, then dang girl! I give you credit for that! Because I still do talk about rings from time to time (even though I really shouldn't) lol
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But we have been talking more about when married....

Do you two ever discuss marriage or engagment? Maybe you can bring it up in a round about way to kind of get the feeling on where he is standing? I do this all the time with FF but it doesn't get me too far! You and your FF could be a different story. For me, things wont really happen until he gets that better job. (Which I keep talking about on here...)

I'm so sorry you are frustrated and a little deppressed.
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I get to feeling that way too and I don't think a ring is coming anytime soon. Try to cheer up! We are here for you! Maybe he will surprise you and propose by New Years. If not, maybe sometime shortly after?

On the other hand (in my own selfish way) if you stay on the LIW board, we are stuck together till the end! And I'm guessing you will end up leaving LIW to BWW before I do
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Everyone leaves me behind
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and I just see engagment after engagement........Sometimes I get the feeling I will be the one who never leaves.
 
I hate to see another LIW suffering. It''s such a bummer when it''s supposed to be such a great time in your life and you start to get upset about it.

(((((((Hugs)))))))))

I think you should try and relax. He said this year, so give him this year. 11:59 still counts! I know it''s so easy to speculate and assume that he''s not doing anything or not planning anything, but if he''s the love of your life, and you trust him, let him do his thing.

Try to keep the pressure off, also. As some other wise PSers have said, you don''t want to expect a holiday proposal and have it ruin your holiday because it didn''t come.

Once the first of the year is over, and assuming you haven''t received a proposal, I would definitely try to sit down and have a discussion about why it didn''t happen, and see if you are really on the same page about when it''s going to happen. Seven years is a long time, so I assume you guys have the communication thing down pretty well.

Good Luck, Bia! I''m right there with you girl!
 
Hi Bia, I''m sorry you''re so upset. Not really sure what''s going through his mind....but I should throw in there''s still a month and half of proposal opportunities this year so it still could happen way before new years eve, (although btw I think a new years proposal would be cute)Has anything changed this year that could have thrown plans off course? It''s a rough time economically so maybe he is afraid financially that it''s just not a good time anymore. I would maybe ask if an engagement this year is still on course. If you don''t want to bring it up incase of ruining any surprises then I just wish you lots of luck and hope he doesn''t leave you waiting too long.
 
Bia - My bf and I have been together for 7 years and now a few months (who's counting?
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) So I am totally sitting here feeling your frustration and your 'story' sounds VERY familiar. I am almost starting to think were the same person! lol I kept nodding my head after everything you said, so girl, YOU ARE NOT ALONE! Does that make you feel any better?
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Cheer up... I know easier said than done!
 
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It really doesn't help when society is pushing it on us too... just last night when I was feeling really bummed about things and thinking at the rate things are going it will probably not happen by the end of this year.. a commercial pops on t.v. and I'm like, "really? are you kidding me?" I shut the t.v. off and played with my dog. I said to my dog "It looks like it's just you and me for a while (sigh)" and then I called it a night. It's very frustrating.. I know. I even told my friend the other day, that when it happens I know i'll be so excited and everything, but I'm at the point where I'm just anticipating it so much that I'm not sure if i'll feel more like "FINALLY" then happy.. y'know? So hard.. but hang in there.. i'm trying to do the same!

Honestly, if nothing happens after new years, then I am going to sit down and have another talk with my bf. Valentines day is my favorite holiday so I'm really kinda hoping it doesn't happen then, I am way too anxious to wait... but if he waits until after new years, that will be my next guess. UGH.. see I could just go on and on. SUCKS!
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Bia,

I totally understand where you are coming from. It''s really difficult to wait around for the one you love to propose when you feel 100% ready already. One thing you have to keep in mind that it''s a bit more complicated for a guy, because he is usually the one who has to save up and ask permission from your family, and most men want to feel financially secure before they make that move. For all you know your searching on Pricescope and suggestions has led him to believe you want and deserve something more (a nicer ring) than he initially planned for, and now he is trying to save up? Personally, that is what happened with me and my FI. I think the ring he ended up buying was approx. 2x as much as what he initially planned before *I* joined pricescope... sigh...

There were times I felt so frustrated and annoyed waiting but in the end it was all worth the wait... and to be honest, I hardly ever think about those times (when I was frustrated) anymore. After he proposes, it all just disappears! Plus, you realize how ridiculous it was to be so upset for something that, in the long run, changes nothing. If you are with the person you love, that should be all that matters. If you know he is the one, and he is your best friend, you are already the luckiest woman in the world. Just be patient, in a few months, you will be engaged, and you will see, the whole engaged thing is GREAT, but doesn''t really change anything in your relationship.
 
I am sorry that your feeling this way.
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I understand how you feel because we have been together for 3 years now. Everyone around me asks me when we are going to get married, blah blah....I try to not let that bother me but it does sometimes. I am trying my best to try to forget it and wait til he pops the question. I hope you feel better girl! I am hoping that you and I come off the list soon!
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Wow, that was quick! I love my fellow PSers...you ladies know how to come to a girl's rescue! Thank you!

Anyway, to answer some of your questions:

Dream: my girl. Yea, we did join around the same time, I remember! And I know your story so I definitely feel like we are in a similar boat, if not the same
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. I haven't really discussed the ring with him for at least 4 months. I feel like its a moot point because he doesn't want to talk about it WITH ME. He asked me to send him pictures of what I liked (with names of vendors) and after I did so, he told me he got everything...and that was that! I tried to bring it up a few times after that but all he said was, "Babe..." so I zipped it. One night he told me he knew exactly what I liked, and not to worry so much--I hadn't even said anything! I guess he he read my mind ha!. /www.pricescope.com/idealbb/images/smilies/20.gif[/img]>> As for marriage, this boy is all about telling me I'm his wife and he can't wait for us to have babies, buy our dream house, etc. Its sweet and all, but for example, the other day we went upstate a bit to this reserve where we like to hike and have picnics, run around with our dog. As we were walking and taking pictures of the foliage and eachother, he stops and pulls me to him and says, "Babe, will you marry me?" It was so romantic, but it wasn't a real proposal, he just wanted to say it and be "in the moment" I guess. The reason I know is because I asked him if he was serious and he said yes, but that he wasn't officially proposing b/c he didn't have the ring. See? Is that weird to you?

Elle: Thanks honey, I really, really appreciate the support. I have followed your story, so I know its not easy. At least you know your man has one heck of a diamond to put in that setting of yours (whichever one he ends up getting)! I just hope he doesn't make you wait too much longer (its no fun). I'll take your advice too and not put too much hope into a holiday proposal--how dreadful would that be if I was hoping and praying only to have it blow up in my face?! I definitely plan on saying something if nothing happens by January (my birthday).

Hi Purselover! Thanks for chiming in. At this point, if it is a New Years proposal, that would be fine. Its really more about him doing what he said he was going to do. Its not like he doesn't know how important this is to me, ya know? It really would be JUST like him to wait until New Years, the procrastinator that he is...hehe.

Ringless: Haven't seen you around in a bit! You were another LIW that signed up just around the time that Dreamgirl and I did. We are all kind of in the same boat!!! I could always feel your LIW "pain" and evidently you are feeling mine (although I'm sorry you are). I agree that there are societal pressures. Sometimes I think that's whats making me so touchy. When you're 26 (almost 27) with a man you've been with since 20(!!) people begin to wonder what the heck is taking so long. I feel it everywhere. I don't know if its just paranoia or what, but its there. Plus, its everywhere on TV. I have stopped watching wedding shows altogether because they just annoy me (not the show but just the whole thing). I'm sure you have people around you (friends and family) getting engaged and married. For me its my brother, who's younger than I am. I am happy for him and all of my friends who are engaged (truly), thats not the problem, its just wondering what is taking so long for the two of us to get this thing going already. **Definitely keep us in the loop because we're here for you too!**

I'm really trying not to overthink this but with all the proposal happening lately on PS, its popping in my head more than usual--NOT that I'm not thrilled for all you newly engaged PSers, because I couldn't be happier for you!!!

I guess we'll see
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Bia, I''ll commiserate with you! I''m right there too- I know its coming (before March) but it is SO HARD not to talk about it all the time. We''re so happy and in love and I just can''t wait for these plans that we always talk about to actually start happening! For now, just vent to us and we''ll do the same back to you. Its nice to know there are other girls out there that feel the same way I do, but the wait is still a killer. Just hang on and trust that he''ll do it when he knows its right and it will be perfect!
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Date: 11/11/2008 4:18:30 PM
Author: Bia
As we were walking and taking pictures of the foliage and eachother, he stops and pulls me to him and says, ''Babe, will you marry me?'' It was so romantic, but it wasn''t a real proposal, he just wanted to say it and be ''in the moment'' I guess. The reason I know is because I asked him if he was serious and he said yes, but that he wasn''t officially proposing b/c he didn''t have the ring. See? Is that weird to you?
Everyone has given you great advice and 7 years is a reeeeeeallllly long time to me (my BF and I have been together for 4) so I can sympathize with you! What I wanted to know was...what did you say to your BF when he ''proposed?'' While it sounded really sweet and romantic, his mock proposal wasn''t fair to you at all!!!! I hope you told him that he''s not allowed to do that until he''s absolutely 100000000000% serious... with your ring in his hand ready to be placed on your finger!!!!!
 
Date: 11/11/2008 4:18:30 PM
Author: Bia
Dream: my girl. Yea, we did join around the same time, I remember! And I know your story so I definitely feel like we are in a similar boat, if not the same
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. I haven't really discussed the ring with him for at least 4 months. I feel like its a moot point because he doesn't want to talk about it WITH ME. He asked me to send him pictures of what I liked (with names of vendors) and after I did so, he told me he got everything...and that was that! I tried to bring it up a few times after that but all he said was, 'Babe...' so I zipped it. One night he told me he knew exactly what I liked, and not to worry so much--I hadn't even said anything! I guess he he read my mind ha!. <<whatever
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>> As for marriage, this boy is all about telling me I'm his wife and he can't wait for us to have babies, buy our dream house, etc. Its sweet and all, but for example, the other day we went upstate a bit to this reserve where we like to hike and have picnics, run around with our dog. As we were walking and taking pictures of the foliage and eachother, he stops and pulls me to him and says, 'Babe, will you marry me?' It was so romantic, but it wasn't a real proposal, he just wanted to say it and be 'in the moment' I guess. The reason I know is because I asked him if he was serious and he said yes, but that he wasn't officially proposing b/c he didn't have the ring. See? Is that weird to you?
What a turd! lol
On the other hand, he says he knows what you want so that is a positive! FF tells me not to worry all the time too haha
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(your FF sounds a lot like my FF. I think I have said this before!)

Anyway, If he is talking about marriage and babies and such along with fake proposals (turd
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), I bet it is coming much sooner than you realize. It's just one of those things where you feel like it wont happen anytime soon. (waiting and waiting) But from what you are saying he is saying, he is obviously thinking about it a lot! That is exciting!!! I bet it's coming soon. And you are lucky for that!!!!!
 
Hi Ladies. Thanks to all of you who responded (ilovethiswebsite, mtjoya, going crazy29, & sammyj).

This whole situation is weird. His fake proposal isn''t the first time. He does that whenever he''s feeling romantic. At first it didn''t bug me, but lately, I don''t know. When he asked me, it didn''t feel like THE MOMENT because he didn''t get on his knee (not that that''s a prerequisite) OR have that "look" on his face (whatever that look is
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), but then I thought, "maybe he''s serious?" I quickly dismissed the thought though because I could just tell he was full of it. That and I asked him! LOL He told me he just wanted me to know that he can''t wait to marry me, or something to that effect. I told him I didn''t think that was fair because I might have thought it was for real. He said he understood, so we''ll see if he does it again...remember, that wasn''t the first time, it was just the first time it got to me.

Sometimes I feel like the kid already thinks we are sort of married because we live together (approx 2 years)...and then I think maybe its my fault for moving in with him (because maybe that caused him to think that there is no hurry?) I''ll give him until the end of January to ask, but if he really does think that, he better watch his back because I''ll probably punch him, and then move out. I don''t know. My mind races sometimes and I start thinking all these thoughts that might not mean diddley.

I''m trying to be optimistic (I usually am) but its just occupying my mind all the time. As ringless said, its everywhere. Just tonight, as I was watching TV there was this commercial about a man who tied a ball of string from his apartment window to the building next door where he then slid a diamond ring to his girlfriend, who of course had just woken up and looked out the window. I was like "Oh my God, is this for real?" Had I been engaged I might have thought this was cute but tonight I was like "uggghhhh!!!" I almost said something to my BF but decided I didn''t need to sound desperate just because I saw a stupid commercial. BTW it was for a Zales "Celebration Diamond"...I felt so proud to be part of the PS community after watching that commercial for some reason!

Anyway...I guess we''ll just have to wait and see. Dreamgirl, you''re right though, he did act like a turd (haven''t heard that word in a long time lol). I''m crossing my fingers that you''re right about it happening sooner than later.

Thanks ladies again. I''m off to bed...sleep tight everyone.
 
Hang on a sec, m'dear--did you say it was about 4 months ago that you last talked with him about rings, like showing him the settings you like and all that? Because if that is so, sweetie, I don't think things are all that bad. It can take months and months and MONTHS to find the right diamond alone, let alone the couple of months it can take to be set (depending on who is doing it). You may think he's doing nothing because you're hearing nothing about it, but he may in fact be in the thick of things and TRYING to give you the surprise of your life! Clearly you know him best so if you have some deep down dread in your stomach that maybe he doesn't want to get engaged ever at all, then there would be cause for concern, but so far I'm just reading some nerves that seem to me to be based on impatience (which I can sympathize with!) and lack of communication.

Did you two decide that you'd have almost no involvement in the process? Because if he's open to letting you contribute more, you might gain some comfort knowing things ARE happening. Of course, then you wouldn't be as surprised, which is a big deal to some.

Anyway, even if he DOES wait until New Year's Eve, so what? He's not broken his promise (which to me is really really worrying, rather than just waiting to the last minute, which is understandable since it *is* a big holiday). AND it's less than two months away!! Stop thinking that it will happen now, for your own well-being and because you *did* give him until the end of the year, and try to relax while waiting for January 1st. If you get to that point and you've still not been asked a question, give the guy hell.
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We have very similar stories.. except I've been dating bf for a bit over 2 years. I know exactly how you feel though. If it means anything-- you're not alone!

edit: also, boys are simple. and that makes them complicated.
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Bia,
Could it be possible that maybe your FF is having some money issues?? it is certainly not unheard of in this economy...
I wish you luck and much ease in your wait... if money is the issue, than maybe you could mention that you could get engaged without a ring for now...

just a thought.
 
Hun, I really, really hope to be wrong here...but you might want to try to prepare yourself for the fact that he might not propose this year at all
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He sounds like he likes playing at the idea of marriage, but maybe he''s not really ready? Who knows? If nothing else, he''s clueless
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Want us to round up the PS Posse and go have a "talk" with him
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Date: 11/11/2008 6:09:30 PM
Author: sammyj

Date: 11/11/2008 4:18:30 PM
Author: Bia
As we were walking and taking pictures of the foliage and eachother, he stops and pulls me to him and says, ''Babe, will you marry me?'' It was so romantic, but it wasn''t a real proposal, he just wanted to say it and be ''in the moment'' I guess. The reason I know is because I asked him if he was serious and he said yes, but that he wasn''t officially proposing b/c he didn''t have the ring. See? Is that weird to you?
Everyone has given you great advice and 7 years is a reeeeeeallllly long time to me (my BF and I have been together for 4) so I can sympathize with you! What I wanted to know was...what did you say to your BF when he ''proposed?'' While it sounded really sweet and romantic, his mock proposal wasn''t fair to you at all!!!! I hope you told him that he''s not allowed to do that until he''s absolutely 100000000000% serious... with your ring in his hand ready to be placed on your finger!!!!!
My BF does similiar things (like spelling it on the fridge then walking away chuckling) and it''s completely unfair. But you guys have been together for 7 years! geez I think I would have burst into tears if my BF did that, honestly! Sammyj is right if he does that aain let him know it''s not a joke to you!
 
Bia,

It seems that you'd be really bothered if he proposed at 11:59 on NYE, but as elle said, it still counts. My husband is a PROCRASTINATOR, he proposed something like three days before the timeframe we determined together would have ended (I can't remember the dates now). We had actually purchased the ring and he still told me we weren't engaged because he hadn't asked (he did that night). I found it all to be rather amusing, and indicative of who he is as a person (see the big P word above); I can either love him for this quirk of his, or I can be frustrated by it, I choose to think it's a rather funny quirk of his, otherwise we'd spend a lot of time arguing about stuff that really doesn't matter (and I have ribbing rights
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, like about the mattress that was supposed to be my Christmas present last year that still hasn't been purchased).

If you're really worried I'd ask/tell him "Babe, I know you said NYE was D-day, just want to make sure we're still on the same page about that?" I hope he gives you the answer you want to hear. And tell him to knock off the fake proposal crap, because it's hurtful. He cpuld be doing so to get used to the idea (I'm trying to be optomistic, and hoping it's not what purfect thinks it might be, but I'll join the posse if it is) or thinks he's dropping hints, when in fact he's making you nuts!
 
Wow! Again, thanks for chiming in ladies...


Date: 11/12/2008 6:22:07 AM
Author: gwendolyn
Hang on a sec, m''dear--did you say it was about 4 months ago that you last talked with him about rings, like showing him the settings you like and all that? Because if that is so, sweetie, I don''t think things are all that bad. It can take months and months and MONTHS to find the right diamond alone, let alone the couple of months it can take to be set (depending on who is doing it).
Hey Gwennie! Let me tell you, you really have a knack for putting things into clear perspective. Okay, so...to answer your question: He asked that I send him some info a long time ago (maybe back in May?) and that was the last time he "talked" about the ring. The last time I mentioned it, was 4 months ago and he dismissed me. So I didn''t get anywhere.
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I think it has a lot to do with his sister, who got married a couple of years ago. When she and her hubby decided they wanted to get engaged, my BF''s mother wanted to make sure her daughter got the ring of her dreams and basically orchestrated the whole ordeal--to the point where BF''s sister knew it was coming and knew what ring she was getting b/c she picked it out LOL. My BF thought that was really lame. He told me (back then) that he never wanted that for us. That he wanted to the moment to be a surprise--to be our moment. The only reason he let me give him input was because he saw how invested I was in the diamond research--he figured he''d be smart to let me tell him what I like, I guess. BUT, you may be right. It might be that I''m being impatient and that he''s doing what he said he''d be doing. I just wish I felt as if that were true
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cbs102: I''m not sure. We are pretty open about finances and share most accounts. He did lose a bit of money with this whole Wall Street mess, but he said he was okay and that he''d bounce back--he was most concerned about his 401K. We have been trying to do things to spend less, since the cost of living is high in New York, and we want to be able to sell our co-op and buy a house before we have kids. Overall he said he is still able to save and, from what I can see, it doesn''t seem like he''s pinching pennies. I''m the one who''s broke (grad student), so he pays the majority of the bills. But, I guess anything is possible?

purrfectpear: Hey! No worrries, I appreciate honesty. You might be right girlfriend. I feel like this is a possibility and it really sucks! I ask my mother sometimes what she thinks, in terms of him being "ready." She says that it might scare him a bit, but that she (and my whole family) can tell he really loves me and is totally committed to me. My BF is a strange bird. He''s a walking contradiction in many ways. He is definitely the type that needs to do things in his own time, but I am too, and that was a big reason behind why we didn''t feel ready until now (or at least me). I would never want to pressure him into making this type of commitment. Who wants to force someone to marry them? I know, I don''t. And it really has been coming from him. He just hasn''t done anything yet. I wish I weren''t doubting that he''s ready, but he really may not be, and if that''s the case, I don''t know what I''m going to do.
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KimberlyH: Your hubby and my BF are cut from the same cloth!
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My boyfriend is the ultimate procrastinator. That combined with his classic ADHD personality...TRUST ME when I tell you, we are definitely an interesting match because I am more a Type A personality. LOL I have come to terms with the fact that he just doesn''t see things the way I do, and never will. So like you said, you have to take it and laugh about it, or leave it. Now I find his quirks endearing, but in the beginning (actually the first 4 years!) we drove eachother crazy. If we didn''t really love one another, we''d have been TOAST. About the proposal, I guess his proposing on New Years wouldn''t be bad...actually it would be fine, I just don''t want to get my hopes up because then I''d be really upset if I were disappointed, and who wants that when they''re bringing in the New Year? Not me, that''s who!
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that_someone_special: Hey sweetie! Haven''t seen you around in a bit either. You''re another LIW that signed up right around the time I did. How are you??? Any progress with the engagement on your front??? (I hope so)

Ckrickett: I hear you!!! Boys are so annoying sometimes, its a wonder we love them at all!!!
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Bia - Yes, I've been here and there.. mostly away b/c sometimes it's just too hard to come on here honestly! I'll have good days where I feel like I"m living in a dream, so happy with how things are and everything and just really living in the moment (trying to follow everyone's advice) and then I'll have days where I throw my hands in the air and I'm like, "really?". So that is why you see me every now and then.. sorry :) My bf is always telling me the things I do are 'wife material'... it's this cute thing we say to eachother.. but sometimes when he starts talking about moving to another place with me, having kids, etc. I just hold my hand up and sigh.. and he laughs. It can be very frustrating!
Thanks for the support back... I really can't wait for the day when I will be a fiance, and will have that sigh of relief that i'm finally on the track to spending the rest of my life with my bf! I will be very excited for you too... 7 years is a long time.. i know
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Hi bia. I was touched by your story because we are in very similar situations (been with SO a long time, live together etc.) and my thoughts and emotions are running all over the place not knowing if/when a proposal is coming. But last night I had a realiyation I''d like to share with you. We''ve both stopped engagement talk with our SO for awhile so if they were feeling unsure or not ready they would be so happy that we''ve let up they wouldn''t dare bring it up themselves. But they are bringing it up on their own. Guys think so much differently than us, instead of thinjing they''re driving us crazy I bet they think they''re prepairing us (and them) for whats to come.
 
I''m sorry Bia
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. FI and I will also be together for 7 years come April and we started talking about Marriage this year, so I understand the frustration.

Honestly, I think its time to have another conversation. I wouldn''t approach it as a "why haven''t you proposed yet?" conversation but more of a "what are the goals for our future or where do you see our lives headed"

You can''t hold back on having a very important conversation with him just because it annoys him. I would change the vocabulary a little and not mention anything about being frustrated or annoyed that he hasn''t proposed yet but make it clear that after 7 years, you want to know where this is headed. I think that''s a fair conversation to have.

GL!
 
hang in there...when he does propose...the wait will be well worth it. And who knows...he probably has it all planned out, you just have no clue!
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Bia, I just want to tell you that I think you are handling your frustration/doubt in a very mature way. You aren''t bringing it up to him incessantly, you aren''t breaking down into tears all the time, you aren''t over-reacting. Your anxieties are completely normal and I think you are handling them in a healthy, non-destructive way, so bravo for that!

The year is almost over and this timeline has been in place for essentially the entire year, so I would most definitely lay low and wait to see what happens. He may very well have something planned that will be very special. If he does not propose this year, then you''ll know you have some decisions for YOURSELF to make--not only will you be very disappointed that he''s not ready, but your trust and respect for him will have eroded. Similarly, if he desperately proposes at 11:59pm on Dec. 31st, then you''ll know that he''s not truly ready. I know it''s hard, but try not to worry about those situations until they happen! The position you''re in is a good one, there is still plenty of time for him to propose, but not so much time that you''ll feel this anxiety for too long!
 
Hey everyone. Thanks again for taking time to lend your support--I''m really touched.

waitinlady: I totally understand what you''re going through. All year I was beyond excited thinking about he and I being engaged, after being a couple for so long. I had to promise myself not to broach the topic with him because I so want this time in our lives to be stress-free and special for him too! I wonder now if I should have had a few more discussions with him about his plans. I really admire the women here (and men!) who have sat down with their SOs and calmly discussed their plans. I really appreciate your helpful tips. I think it might be better to do just that, at least until the beginning of next year--give the guy a chance to do what he said. If after that, nothing happens, I have some real decisions to make.

fieryred33143: Thanks mami for chiming in. I was thinking a lot about your story as I was debating whether to write my own a few days ago. I remember (in the summer?) you thinking that things were stalled, and that your then BF wasn''t that excited about the proposal, how sad it made you. However, soon after (a couple days right?), he proposed and it was everything you could have hoped for in a proposal! I am so wishing that this will be my experience on some level. Meaning that he might not be as gung-ho as me, but that being engaged to me is just as important to him, and of course, that he honors his promises to me (really, to us). I agree that we will need to talk if he doesn''t do this. Especially since I firmly believe in any relationship you have to be honest with one another. The very last thing I would ever do to him is lead him on, so I would be heartbroken if he was doing that to me just to pacify me. I don''t think this is the case but I guess we''ll see...
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LoveRoundBrilliants: Love your name b/c I love them too!!! Thanks for the support sweetie...appreciate it big time!

NewEnlgandLady: Its good to know that you all don''t think I''m a raving lunatic. No matter if I feel that way alot of the time!!!
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I really couldn''t agree more with your post. You are right, he did say ''this year,'' so I should be patient enough to give him that time. Honestly, I don''t want to believe he''s not ready, mostly because if he''s not then he''s been lying to me all year. Particularly when he says he can''t wait to marry me, have kids, etc. That would hurt 10x more than if he''d just said he needed more time. Lets cross our fingers that this is NOT the scenario that awaits me!!! But thank you for being so sweet...I appreciate it all so much from all of you ladies.

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I''m feeling a little better about the whole thing, so thank you guys!
 
Date: 11/12/2008 10:22:04 AM
Author: Bia
KimberlyH: Your hubby and my BF are cut from the same cloth!
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My boyfriend is the ultimate procrastinator. That combined with his classic ADHD personality...TRUST ME when I tell you, we are definitely an interesting match because I am more a Type A personality. LOL I have come to terms with the fact that he just doesn''t see things the way I do, and never will. So like you said, you have to take it and laugh about it, or leave it. Now I find his quirks endearing, but in the beginning (actually the first 4 years!) we drove eachother crazy. If we didn''t really love one another, we''d have been TOAST. About the proposal, I guess his proposing on New Years wouldn''t be bad...actually it would be fine, I just don''t want to get my hopes up because then I''d be really upset if I were disappointed, and who wants that when they''re bringing in the New Year? Not me, that''s who!
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Bia, it was amazing how much better I felt about us when I accepted him for who he is. He does still make me a bit batty on occasion, but 99.9% of the time I adore my husband.

I totally understand where you''re coming from, and in light of that, if I were in your shoes I would say to him: Honey, I know we''ve talked about this, and you''re tired of it, but I need to know that we''re still on the same page regarding engagement because I don''t want to be expecting something that isn''t going to happen, it could be much more damaging to our relationship than your having to confirm this for me.

Best of luck to you!
 
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