Clarity characteristics help

[anamalech]

hi guys,

so I’ve been looking for a decent diamond o for a few weeks now, and I came across the following diamond:

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2397172996

I’m concerned by the clarity characteristics which says: cloud, Crystal

is this a dealbreaker? What should I be looking for in a diamond that’s under 1 carat?

thanks for any help!

 

[MRBXXXFVVS1]

SIs can be tricky, can you post pictures of the diamond? I personally would look at VS clarity or higher, eye clean diamonds.

 

[lovedogs]

The table being bigger than the depth isnt great. What is your budget and desired size?

 

[anamalech]

The table being bigger than the depth isnt great. What is your budget and desired size?

I don’t want to spend more than $4000, and I want to take it as close as possible to 1 carat as I can with that budget

 

[lovedogs]

I don’t want to spend more than $4000, and I want to take it as close as possible to 1 carat as I can with that budget

Color preference?

 

[anamalech]

Color preference?

Probably H+? I don’t want a yellow diamond

 

[lovedogs]

Unfortunately it's going to be near impossible to find a 1ct H+ stone in budget that's well cut.

Here are some .90+ that are I color and above, and seem well cut (though not the best of the best).

0.90 Carat round diamond

This 0.9 carat round diamond I color si1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

0.90 Carat I VVS2 Round Brilliant Natural Diamond GIA Certified 2408444030 Affinity Cut - D48275726

www.adiamor.com

0.90 Carat round diamond

This 0.9 carat round diamond I color si1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD17043913?irgwc=1&utm_campaign=Blue+Nile+Diamond+Inventory+-+Auto+Upload+Ad&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=PriceScope

 

[anamalech]

Unfortunately it's going to be near impossible to find a 1ct H+ stone in budget that's well cut.

Here are some .90+ that are I color and above, and seem well cut (though not the best of the best).

0.90 Carat round diamond

This 0.9 carat round diamond I color si1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

0.90 Carat I VVS2 Round Brilliant Natural Diamond GIA Certified 2408444030 Affinity Cut - D48275726

www.adiamor.com

0.90 Carat round diamond

This 0.9 carat round diamond I color si1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD17043913?irgwc=1&utm_campaign=Blue+Nile+Diamond+Inventory+-+Auto+Upload+Ad&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=PriceScope

How about in the 0.8ish range?

 

[lovedogs]

How about in the 0.8ish range?

Much easier if you're open to .8 and above!

Here is a .8 from a super ideal vendor (meaning the cut is absolutely the best of the best):

Diamond | 0.801 ct F SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4361921

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.801 carat F color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4361921

www.whiteflash.com

Make sure to ask for the certificate if you like any of the options from JA and post it here (also put the stone on hold, which is free, so no one buys it before you can):

0.85 Carat round diamond

This 0.85 carat round diamond G color si1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

0.85 Carat round diamond

This 0.85 carat round diamond H color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

0.85 Carat round diamond

This 0.85 carat round diamond H color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

0.85 Carat round diamond

This 0.85 carat round diamond G color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

0.85 Carat round diamond

0.85 Carat round diamond

www.jamesallen.com

0.83 Carat round diamond

0.83 Carat round diamond

www.jamesallen.com

0.82 Carat round diamond

This 0.82 carat round diamond H color vvs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

 

[anamalech]

For 11820796

 

[Dancing Fire]

For 11820796

IMO, This one is cut too deep at 62.9%

 

[lovedogs]

For 11820796

On paper I wouldnt recommend this one since its deeper than we recommend and 36.5 is steep. I like the look of it, but without any advanced images (ASET/IS) its risky.

 

[anamalech]

James Allen 11936182

 

[lovedogs]

James Allen 11936182

Same issue as above

 

[anamalech]

What's an ideal depth range?

 

[anamalech]

James Allen 11195100

 

[Diamond_Enthusiast]

What's an ideal depth range?

Generally around 61-62.3%.

I personally like to stay within 61-62% to avoid losing face up spread to depth.

 

[Diamond_Enthusiast]

James Allen 11195100

Again, 36.5 crown angle is steeper than typically preferred and 62.8% is too deep.

 

[Lookinagain]

PS recommends the following
Table between 54-58
Depth 60-62.3
Crown angle 34-35
Pavilion angle 40.6-40.9 sometimes 41 if crown angle is close to 34

 

[lovedogs]

Seems like JA has a lot of steep crown and deep stones right now. Did you look at the WF option?

 

[anamalech]

SKU 12671918​

0.80 Carat round diamond

This 0.8 carat round diamond H color vvs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

How's this one? It looks good to me

 

[anamalech]

And it's gone...what the hell...within seconds?

 

[Diamond_Enthusiast]

And it's gone...what the hell...within seconds?

You didn't miss out on much!

Seems like JA has a lot of steep crown and deep stones right now. Did you look at the WF option?

Check the WF option, this is better. Also, WF has an excellent upgrade policy in case you want to upgrade down the track. At JA, you need to double your original spend to upgrade.

 

[anamalech]

You didn't miss out on much!

Check the WF option, this is better. Also, WF has an excellent upgrade policy in case you want to upgrade down the track. At JA, you need to double your original spend to upgrade.

I heard that there's a 30-40% premium on WF diamonds? Also, why don't you guys recommend Blue Nile?

 

[lovedogs]

And it's gone...what the hell...within seconds?

If you like a stone, you need to put it on hold. Sadly there are lots of lurkers who take stones that are posted here.

 

[lovedogs]

I heard that there's a 30-40% premium on WF diamonds? Also, why don't you guys recommend Blue Nile?

It's not that high of a premium when comparing apples to apples (well cut stones w the same color and clarity). Part of the premium is the advanced imaging and the $1 upgrade policy. I dont have an issue w blue Nile

 

[Diamond_Enthusiast]

It's not that high of a premium when comparing apples to apples (well cut stones w the same color and clarity). Part of the premium is the advanced imaging and the $1 upgrade policy. I dont have an issue w blue Nile

Agree with the above and no issues with BN here either. Just happens that the better options came up with the other vendors.

 

[daisygrl]

I heard that there's a 30-40% premium on WF diamonds? Also, why don't you guys recommend Blue Nile?

No issue with Blue Nile. They are reputable, however, you do need to know what you are doing when buying from them IF having beautiful and sparkly diamond is preferred. I color in 0.80ct is not going to look yellow by any means. I have 0.835ct in I color and it looked identical when compared to an H color of the same size - especially to the naked eye.

Here is a pic for comparison. Mine is very far left.

 

[anamalech]

Hi guys,

thanks for all the help. I decided to go with the aforementioned whiteflash diamond. Doubt I could have done better.

Diamond | 0.801 ct F SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4361921

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.801 carat F color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4361921

www.whiteflash.com

 

[DejaWiz]

Hi guys,

thanks for all the help. I decided to go with the aforementioned whiteflash diamond. Doubt I could have done better.

Diamond | 0.801 ct F SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4361921

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.801 carat F color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4361921

www.whiteflash.com

Absolutely beautiful selection - congratulations!