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laughinggravy

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Hi everyone, it's been over a year since I promised to take pics of an old european cut that my grand mother was kind enough to leave me, my asscher (with trap sides) engagement ring and my wonderful princess solitaire from Infinity which was my 40ieth birthday present from my sweet husband.

This a combined topic because I also want to say how delighted I am with the AGS 000 princess I have. I picked it up from Infinity in Antwerp (thanks again Paul) a whole year ago and it is only now that it has finallly been set to my liking and the specifications. Jeweller from hell and long distance to boot.... that's a whole other story so we won't go there!!!

Specs of all three first:
* Princess (from Infinity) AGS 000 - ideal (one of the very first), 6.08x6.08x4.77 (a deep stone), J colour, 1.43 carats, VVS2
* Asscher/modified em cut (from NiceIce), GIA excellent cut, polish, symmetry, exact dimensions on cert in bank but it's 6x6mm, E colour, 1.17 carats, VVS1 with two traps on the side
* OEC, 8mm diameter, not a great cut under the ideal scope/leakage in the middle, J colour, low clarity SI1, 1.20 carats (the evaluation was done by Bonhams so there's no cert on it)

What I'd like to show is that although the Princess is 1.43 and has the same 6mm dimensions as the assscher, it appears waaay biggers. The depth means a whole lot of fire and since I think that the size it looks when on is more important than the size on paper, although it is deep, nothing has been sacrificed. It still seems much bigger than the asscher and performs like a firework display.

Another point about the Inifinity stone is that it is easier to set than many princesses since they shave the tiniest amount from the sharpnes of the corner, microscopic, you can't see it at all but it makes the corners less prone to fracture. The technique has been okayed by the AGS and stones cut this way qualify for the 'ideal' label (if they meet all the other parameters of course!).

Paul is very comfortable to work with, very professional but easy going and will help you through your decision with no pressure at all and lots of info if you want to know more.

The asscher is a lovey stone and I personally can see a clear diff in colur when the two are side by side. When they are on diff hands, the Princes is a right hand ring, then the diff in colour is not, to my eyes at least, apparent. My husband got the asscher from NiceIce but since he's french speaking, I had most of the contact with them. They were lovely to work with and I think I saw a recent post from Todd, I hope so. A genuinely good guy.

The asccher is set in platinum, the prin and the oec in white gold. For those interested in white gold and plat togther, I wear the prin as an engagment ring sometimes and my wedding band is in platinum. The white gold setting of the princess and the band look exactly the same. Over time that, perhaps, would change, but now there is no difference in colour.

For those wondering if the Js look okay set in a white metal: they look absolutely fine. I prefer them in white since yellow would reflect in the stone and, I think, highlight the colour.

Hokay.... now for a lot of pix, hope I don't bore you. Oh, for the record, my finger is a five something, to be honest I can't really remember. Medium sized, not long (unfortunately) but five going on six.

So lets' see if I can do this photo 'thang'...... okay, they're too big, I'll see if I can resize them. I'll post this to be going on with. More to come, promise (and this time sooner than in a year!)

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Okay, now to see if this one works before I resize a whole load of ''em (escape now.... while you still can!!!!!)


Hmmmmmmmm
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First time I was told the shot was too big, so I resized to 2048x1536 and I clicked on upload but nothing happened at all, not even an error msg. I have quite a lot to do today so I can''t spend much more time on this......at least, for now.

Let''s try one more time.

Nope, the upload button doesn''t seem to do a thing. I''m on a mac, could that be a problem? - surely not. Any ideas? Wouldn''t it be great if you could just drag and drop the files like you can for an email.

Anhow, I''m sure I''ll get the photos to you soon, if someone could give me a biut of advice, I''m using iPhoto.
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Oooh, I tried once more and got an error msg. Still too big. Ok at least I know what''s happening, off to re size again.....
 
Well, I can''t seem to resize the file size so I have tried cropping the image...
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Cool, although my fingers are cut off, but then, hey, who''s buying fingers!!!!

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Okay, now I think I''ve got the knack, let''s try for some more....

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can't seem to add more than one to a post. Oh well, this one's is very fuzzy but it lets the fire shine!!!

prin fuzzy but fire.jpg
 
last one really was fuzzy, this is clearer, still with the Princess

prin - blinds.jpg
 
and another....
I've edited this just to say that if you see a diff in colour between my wedding band and the princess setting, that's because the band is very brushed to give a satin finish. the solitaire setting should be as well, but they didn't manage to get that done for me and since I was happy just to have the darn ring back, I just smiled and ran!!!!!

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such a simple setting, but what a hassle to get it done....

good profile of prin.jpg
 
okay, different stone, the asscher now... this is my engagement ring, on finger without band.... remember, also 6x6mm but it seems much smaller....

asscher on hand.jpg
 
A slightly fuzzy one of asscher and band just for an idea of size

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Phew... we''re getting there, now for the OEC. It''s a bezel set pendant because the original setting was cut almost through by my grandmother wearing an diamond eternity ring next to her engagement ring. the little diamonds had done a good job of shearing though the setting, unfortunately. So this one is 8mm in diameter which clearly shows....

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Well, I got an error msg this time... so I closed everything down and now I'm tryign again. i hope this works because here are a few of the three altogther for the sake of comparision... first, if it works, the three in a box with the princess having fun!!!

Nope no good....here's the msg? Mean anything to anyone? "An error occurred on the server when processing the URL. Please contact the system administrator."

Perhaps I've posted too many photos in a row?

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OOoh good.. we''re off again, on the home stretch.. all three together.

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You can see from the above that although the Princess is the same size as the Asscher, it really looks bigger. And that extra 2mm on the OEC does show clearly when you are looking at diameter. so dimensions and appearances differ a lot and a some deep cut Princesses perform excellently and look bigger than described on paper - no?

In this one it's the asscher that's having fun....

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great explaination and pics laughinggravy. I have a mac and just popped in, sorry i couldn''t help sooner but it looks like you figured it out just fine
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Yay... we got there!!! One more after this, although it''s refusing to go through so this could be the last one. Round next to Asscher on hand....

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Hi Mrssalvo - thanks for your kind words. It's been ages since I posted shots (I had said never, but then remembered I did a few years ago), and doubt I will again any time soon! This is taking quite a while, what with trying to take the darn photos this morning. I think we might be experiencing the last days of summer here so I thought I'd grab the opportunity to take some shots in the sunlight, that was at 10 am!!!

Okay, this is the last one and it keeps blocking but I really like the photo, so I'm hoping if I change the name completely it'll get through....

All three in box, Princess on fire (fingers crossed).....yeeeay it worked! So the lesson is, if a file gets rejected repeatedly, and you've checked the size and the file extension and the system still spits it out, call it 'bertie' and it will go through just fine.

Okay, that's it, you've survived the experience, congrats!!!!!! Love to one and all, esp Widget. And thanks for those who gave me advice over a year ago, on how to spend my birthday budget. Most of all, thanks to my husband!!!!
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Hmmmm... reviewing this I didn't see any shots which clearly illustrated what I meant when I said the Princess appeared much bigger, so I'm sneaking this one in....

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wow, great diamonds you have there! i absolutely adore the settings you''ve chosen. they are simple and perfect!!
 
Very pretty--all three pieces. That's really scary that your grandma's eternity band wore away her e-ring setting. I mean, was it the metal on the eternity band that wore it away?

I see how your princess cut would appear larger. I think it may be the way the square emerald cut is set that makes the princess appear larger.
 
Thanks, I''m very lucky and each has such an important message for me.
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My grandmother made the mistake people often make, smaller diamonds rubbing against the setting of another ring can abraid the setting dangerously. It''s only a problem if the smaller stones can cut into a ring next to it.

I really set up this thread because it''s always interesting to have pix showing relative size of cuts, Js in white metal and Es and Js next to oneanother.

Hope it helps someone trying to think what to buy, how best to max a budget. I would also have been keen to see how big a difference 2mm makes. And also rounds right next to squares.....

But the main point was to let people know that the AGS 000 are very lovely and not to worry that they are a little heavy - it''s worth it.

A
 
~~Your rings are gorgeous!! I''m partial to Princess cuts, and I love yours!!
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What is your finger size??
 
Beautiful collection!! Thanks for sharing your pictures with us.
 
Date: 9/10/2006 8:09:54 AM
Author: laughinggravy
OOoh good.. we''re off again, on the home stretch.. all three together.
Love this picture! All three pieces are just gorgeous, you have a really nice collection going there!!!
 
Gorgeous pieces you have there LG. Awesome pics!!
 
Thanks - hope it'll help anyone coming up to making a choice, worse grade round but with bigger spread, good quality asscher where size is not a priority or what looks on paper to be a 'too deep' princess which is actually bigger than it's 6x6mm when on, if that makes sense.
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Bling diva - as I mentioned I can't really remember, but late 5s like 5 3/4. smaller than 6 - hope that helps.
 
Thanks for the photos and for all of the information.

Neat seeing how the different cuts face up. I guess it''s the corners of the prin. that make it look bigger.

Enjoy your diamonds!!!!!!!!
 
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