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D VS1 vs F VVS2

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Still stuck. Just want feed back. Would you prefer knowing that one diamond is almost flawless in clarity but F color or a D color with some flaws in clarity (also an indented natural). Here are the GIA reports and both are same price essentiallyScreen Shot 2020-12-17 at 9.41.49 PM.pngScreen Shot 2020-12-23 at 11.44.37 PM.png
 
Are these different from the stones you posted before, or the same ones? Can you post pics?
 
I’d rather the D as the color is something you can with the naked eyes compared to clarity which you can’t.

I wish I had this dilemma between four carat stones :lol:
 
Are these different from the stones you posted before, or the same ones? Can you post pics?

yes i been looking at these 3. all can be seen except for the last one F VS1 bc i have on reserve but if you type in BN search bar 00035192 it will pull up in the 360 view and i put that GIA report of that as well at endScreen Shot 2020-12-22 at 10.52.13 PM.pngScreen Shot 2020-12-24 at 12.43.08 AM.pngScreen Shot 2020-12-24 at 12.43.29 AM.pngf vs1.png
 
I’d rather the D as the color is something you can with the naked eyes compared to clarity which you can’t.

I wish I had this dilemma between four carat stones :lol:

thank you!
 
I don't like the 4.01 F color. The crown angle is steep and the stone is deep, which isn't something I like.

I like both the 4.02 options much better. My personal favorite is the D if choosing between them because the difference between VS1 and VVS2 won't be visible to the naked eye. I also prefer the arrows in the D color, plus it saves you 4K AND you get a D color. So for me it would be an easy choice :)
 
I don't like the 4.01 F color. The crown angle is steep and the stone is deep, which isn't something I like.

I like both the 4.02 options much better. My personal favorite is the D if choosing between them because the difference between VS1 and VVS2 won't be visible to the naked eye. I also prefer the arrows in the D color, plus it saves you 4K AND you get a D color. So for me it would be an easy choice :)

I think I agree but believe it or not the BN rep and a so called independent expert (i consulted and paid for) were in favor of the F VS1 (even with the angle issue) over the D?? The F VVS2 just came on line.
 
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I think I agree but believe it or not the BN rep and a so called independent expert (i consulted and paid for) were in favor of the F VS1 (even with the angle issue) over the D?? The F VVS2 just came on line.

I have no idea why anyone would favor the F VS1 over the D. It is nowhere near as aesthetically pleasing as the other two IMHO.
 
i know and he said he felt the F would have better light performance. I was stunned a little bc I did put both in the HCA and the D came out much better (it has the better angles). His reply was you cant use the HCA other than ruling out really bad cuts
 
i know and he said he felt the F would have better light performance. I was stunned a little bc I did put both in the HCA and the D came out much better (it has the better angles). His reply was you cant use the HCA other than ruling out really bad cuts

What did the F VS1 come out as on the HCA?
 
2.3 i believe and very good in all 4 cats
the D came back very good in light return excellent in the rest
 
Can you get light return images for these stones? I would think the vendors would be falling over themselves to provide them at this price level?
 
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Can you get light return images for these stones? I would think the vendors would be falling over themselves to provide them at this price level?

i asked about that to James alllen they said they stopped doing that in march 2020?
 
Yeah, ignore people telling you to get the F VS1. Its objectively worse both on paper and to the eye. Get the D

I believe your right
 
The D is much better.
 
Please show pics when u get the stone u decide on
 
i asked about that to James alllen they said they stopped doing that in march 2020?

They told me it was due to the Covid...not sure if this is true.

I would prefer a D.
 
i asked about that to James alllen they said they stopped doing that in march 2020?

This is correct.

I would try the D and the 4.02 F before the 4.01 F.
 
Will do:)
 
Agree with everyone saying that the F VS1 isn’t up to scratch. I think the other two would both be good, but I prefer the D since it’s cheaper and whiter.
 
I didn't see the F VVS2 when I just searched James Allen. I wanted to compare the videos of the D and F. The D looks great, and the still photo of the F looks outstanding if it is still available. I'd have to see the other video to tell you which I'd favor, but either would be a fabuous choice.

The third stone would be a pass for me, because I wouldn't buy that stone without an ASET image to show light return and potential leakage. The first two I would feel are safe to buy with report and video.

I really hate to hear that you paid someone for bad advice. Incidentally, I never pay any attention to sales reps for big virtual diamond companies. You'll get your best advice here by seeing a variety of opinions. It's free, too!
 
I didn't see the F VVS2 when I just searched James Allen. I wanted to compare the videos of the D and F. The D looks great, and the still photo of the F looks outstanding if it is still available. I'd have to see the other video to tell you which I'd favor, but either would be a fabuous choice.

The third stone would be a pass for me, because I wouldn't buy that stone without an ASET image to show light return and potential leakage. The first two I would feel are safe to buy with report and video.

I really hate to hear that you paid someone for bad advice. Incidentally, I never pay any attention to sales reps for big virtual diamond companies. You'll get your best advice here by seeing a variety of opinions. It's free, too!
 
I should have noticed the F VVS2 was BN! Sorry about that!

Both the D VS1 and F VVS2 are outstanding choices. I'd be thrilled with either one. I generally feel that anything above VS1 clarity is unnecessary because VS1 is so clean, so I guess that and the slight price difference give the D VS1 the advantage. I still like them equally, though.
 
I should have noticed the F VVS2 was BN! Sorry about that!

Both the D VS1 and F VVS2 are outstanding choices. I'd be thrilled with either one. I generally feel that anything above VS1 clarity is unnecessary because VS1 is so clean, so I guess that and the slight price difference give the D VS1 the advantage. I still like them equally, though.

Thank you again for your time. I never heard that statement about "mind clean is harder than eye clean" but thats probably the truest statement I have heard. I believe I will go with the D
 
Wonderful! We would love it if you'd come back and post a picture or two of the finished ring! It is rare that we get to see a 4 ct D!
 
I didn't see the F VVS2 when I just searched James Allen. I wanted to compare the videos of the D and F. The D looks great, and the still photo of the F looks outstanding if it is still available. I'd have to see the other video to tell you which I'd favor, but either would be a fabuous choice.

The third stone would be a pass for me, because I wouldn't buy that stone without an ASET image to show light return and potential leakage. The first two I would feel are safe to buy with report and video.

I really hate to hear that you paid someone for bad advice. Incidentally, I never pay any attention to sales reps for big virtual diamond companies. You'll get your best advice here by seeing a variety of opinions. It's free, too!
I just posted the ideal scope of the D I took with my Iphone
 
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