"Deep Throat" Reveals His Identity

[AGBF]

The man who was the source for some of the information used by Woodward and Bernstein to investigate the Watergate burglary and its cover-up has revealed his identity at age 91. (For those of you not yet born, this cover-up brought down President Nixon.) Tomorrow Bob Woodward will be writing about this in, "The Washington Post". The movie, "All the President's Men" tells the story of how Woodward and Bernstein fell into this story.

Here is a link to an article about this in "The New York Times":

story


Deborah

 

[movie zombie]

and i love that the paragon of virtue, j. gordon liddy, who did 4.5 years of jail time for the watergate break in is complaining that ''deep throat'' broke a code of ethics......

peace, movie zombie

 

[lmurden]

Date: 6/1/2005 1:22:44 PM
Author: movie zombie
and i love that the paragon of virtue, j. gordon liddy, who did 4.5 years of jail time for the watergate break in is complaining that ''deep throat'' broke a code of ethics......

peace, movie zombie

G. Gordon Liddy is a joke!

 

[AGBF]

Yesterday it was announced that Bob Woodward would be writing an article for today's "Washington Post" about his relationship with Mark Felt. I am posting an excerpt from that article (the beginning of it) and a link. If you do not know the Watergate story, rent, "All the President's Men"!!! It is a truly interesting, very suspenseful movie! Although it is non-fiction, it is far more gripping than many Hollywood thrillers!

Deborah

"How Mark Felt Became 'Deep Throat'
As a Friendship -- and the Watergate Story -- Developed, Source's Motives Remained a Mystery to Woodward

By Bob Woodward
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 2, 2005; A01

In 1970, when I was serving as a lieutenant in the U.S. Navy and assigned to Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, the chief of naval operations, I sometimes acted as a courier, taking documents to the White House.

One evening I was dispatched with a package to the lower level of the West Wing of the White House, where there was a little waiting area near the Situation Room. It could be a long wait for the right person to come out and sign for the material, sometimes an hour or more, and after I had been waiting for a while a tall man with perfectly combed gray hair came in and sat down near me. His suit was dark, his shirt white and his necktie subdued. He was probably 25 to 30 years older than I and was carrying what looked like a file case or briefcase. He was very distinguished-looking and had a studied air of confidence, the posture and calm of someone used to giving orders and having them obeyed instantly.

I could tell he was watching the situation very carefully. There was nothing overbearing in his attentiveness, but his eyes were darting about in a kind of gentlemanly surveillance. After several minutes, I introduced myself. "Lieutenant Bob Woodward," I said, carefully appending a deferential "sir."

'Mark Felt,' he said.

I began telling him about myself, that this was my last year in the Navy and I was bringing documents from Adm. Moorer's office. Felt was in no hurry to explain anything about himself or why he was there.

This was a time in my life of considerable anxiety, even consternation, about my future. I had graduated in 1965 from Yale, where I had a Naval Reserve Officers' Training Corps scholarship that required that I go into the Navy after getting my degree. After four years of service, I had been involuntarily extended an additional year because of the Vietnam War.

During that year in Washington, I expended a great deal of energy trying to find things or people who were interesting. I had a college classmate who was going to clerk for Chief Justice Warren E. Burger, and I made an effort to develop a friendship with that classmate. To quell my angst and sense of drift, I was taking graduate courses at George Washington University. One course was in Shakespeare, another in international relations.

When I mentioned the graduate work to Felt, he perked up immediately, saying he had gone to night law school at GW in the 1930s before joining -- and this is the first time he mentioned it -- the FBI. While in law school, he said, he had worked full time for a senator -- his home-state senator from Idaho. I said that I had been doing some volunteer work at the office of my congressman, John Erlenborn, a Republican from the district in Wheaton, Ill., where I had been raised.

So we had two connections -- graduate work at GW and work with elected representatives from our home states.

Felt and I were like two passengers sitting next to each other on a long airline flight with nowhere to go and nothing really to do but resign ourselves to the dead time. He showed no interest in striking up a long conversation, but I was intent on it. I finally extracted from him the information that he was an assistant director of the FBI in charge of the inspection division, an important post under Director J. Edgar Hoover. That meant he led teams of agents who went around to FBI field offices to make sure they were adhering to procedures and carrying out Hoover's orders. I later learned that this was called the 'goon squad.'

Here was someone at the center of the secret world I was only glimpsing in my Navy assignment, so I peppered him with questions about his job and his world. As I think back on this accidental but crucial encounter -- one of the most important in my life -- I see that my patter probably verged on the adolescent. Since he wasn't saying much about himself, I turned it into a career-counseling session.

I was deferential, but I must have seemed very needy. He was friendly, and his interest in me seemed somehow paternal. Still the most vivid impression I have is that of his distant but formal manner, in most ways a product of Hoover's FBI. I asked Felt for his phone number, and he gave me the direct line to his office."


To read more, go here!

 

[Rank Amateur]

Ben Stein, From the American Spectator:

Re: The "news" that former FBI agent Mark Felt broke the law, broke his code of ethics, broke his oath and was the main source for Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward's articles that helped depose Richard Nixon, a few thoughts.

Can anyone even remember now what Nixon did that was so terrible? He ended the war in Vietnam, brought home the POW's, ended the war in the Mideast, opened relations with China, started the first nuclear weapons reduction treaty, saved Eretz Israel's life, started the Environmental Protection Administration. Does anyone remember what he did that was bad?

Oh, now I remember. He lied. He was a politician who lied. How remarkable. He lied to protect his subordinates who were covering up a ridiculous burglary that no one to this date has any clue about its purpose. He lied so he could stay in office and keep his agenda of peace going. That was his crime. He was a peacemaker and he wanted to make a world where there was a generation of peace. And he succeeded.

That is his legacy. He was a peacemaker. He was a lying, conniving, covering up peacemaker. He was not a lying, conniving drug addict like JFK, a lying, conniving war starter like LBJ, a lying, conniving seducer like Clinton -- a lying, conniving peacemaker. That is Nixon's kharma.

When his enemies brought him down, and they had been laying for him since he proved that Alger Hiss was a traitor, since Alger Hiss was their fair-haired boy, this is what they bought for themselves in the Kharma Supermarket that is life:

1.) The defeat of the South Vietnamese government with decades of death and hardship for the people of Vietnam.

2.) The assumption of power in Cambodia by the bloodiest government of all time, the Khmer Rouge, who killed a third of their own people, often by making children beat their own parents to death. No one doubts RN would never have let this happen.

So, this is the great boast of the enemies of Richard Nixon, including Mark Felt: they made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide. If there is such a thing as kharma, if there is such a thing as justice in this life of the next, Mark Felt has bought himself the worst future of any man on this earth. And Bob Woodward is right behind him, with Ben Bradlee bringing up the rear. Out of their smug arrogance and contempt, they hatched the worst nightmare imaginable: genocide. I hope they are happy now -- because their future looks pretty bleak to me.

 

[AGBF]

R/A-

We must live in parallel universes. The Nixon you describe wasn''t the same one who was President of the US while I lived here. Yours doesn''t sound half bad. Want to trade?

Deborah

 

[MINE!!]

Date: 6/6/2005 9:06:05 PM
Author: AGBF


R/A-


We must live in parallel universes. The Nixon you describe wasn''t the same one who was President of the US while I lived here. Yours doesn''t sound half bad. Want to trade?


Deborah

LOL... I give it to you.. you are consistent. tell me, was the "Sino-U.S. Joint Communiqué" part of your world?
How about the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, Environmental Quality Act, EPA?
Price Controls?
HOw about winning congressional approval of U.S.-Soviet trade agreements and agreements to limit the production of nuclear weapons?
Or ending the the military draft and created an all-volunteer system for the U.S. armed services?

Of course not...

 

[Rank Amateur]

Deb, I'd think you would like Nixon since he ended a war (essentially by us giving up). Seems right up your alley.

OSHA remains a powerful voice for workers - much of it unchanged since 1972 (that's when Nixon was President).

 

[AGBF]

Date: 6/6/2005 11:07:14 PM
Author: Rank Amateur
Deb, I'd think you would like Nixon since he ended a war (essentially by us giving up). Seems right up your alley.

First he escalated said war. It was his invasion of Cambodia that caused the student riots in the US that left 4 students dead in Ohio, at Kent State, shot to death by the National Guard. He also dropped a *lot* of napalm on civilians in Vietnam. Vietnam happens to be a war I remember well, since I not only lived through it, but many of my friends were sent to fight there. Perhaps that is why I know that Nixon did more there than "end a war".

Deborah

 

[MINE!!]

Date: 6/7/2005 5:57:40 AM
Author: AGBF

Date: 6/6/2005 11:07:14 PM

Author: Rank Amateur

Deb, I''d think you would like Nixon since he ended a war (essentially by us giving up). Seems right up your alley.

First he escalated said war. It was his invasion of Cambodia that caused the student riots in the US that left 4 students dead in Ohio, at Kent State, shot to death by the National Guard. He also dropped a *lot* of napalm on civilians in Vietnam. Vietnam happens to be a war I remember well, since I not only lived through it, but many of my friends were sent to fight there. Perhaps that is why I know that Nixon did more there than ''end a war''.


Deborah


PUT AWAY the high school text book! National Gaurd.. ummm ROTC.. THAT WAS AN INDEPENDANT decision made by this SMALL group about using live ammo. You can use it... but someone connect it more with your issue! The government neither condoned or had anything to do with the deaths at Kent State.. LOL.. I bet you have a field day with Mayor Daley.

 

[AGBF]

Date: 6/7/2005 8:09:03 AM
Author: MINE!!
PUT AWAY the high school text book!

Well...I now have. (Since I lived through Kent State, however, I do not really need a history book to learn about it. Did you need one? Is it ancient history to you?) At any rate, my point is that had I put it (the text) away while I was still teaching high school history, the school would have frowned on it .

Deb

 

[MINE!!]

Date: 6/7/2005 11:00:57 AM
Author: AGBF

Date: 6/7/2005 8:09:03 AM

Author: MINE!!

PUT AWAY the high school text book!

Well...I now have. (Since I lived through Kent State, however, I do not really need a history book to learn about it. Did you need one? Is it ancient history to you?) At any rate, my point is that had I put it (the text) away while I was still teaching high school history, the school would have frowned on it .



Deb

LOL... I know that you taught High School history. I also know that HIgh School history is not always REAL history and unbiased. That is the difference between throwing away the high school history book and still using it. Although not a history that I ''lived through'' It is a history that some radicals feel that they need to use in order to make a consiparcy type response. :'')

 

[AGBF]

I like you, Mine, even though I know (conspiracy theory here) you are out to get me .

I don't believe in throwing out books and I have kept many of my old history books. (OK. OK. Almost *all* of them!) In my opinion the trick to history is not to throw away the books with distortions, but to read more books that clarify the distortions.

Of *COURSE* you are right about the errors. Every decent historian knows that there are errors. History is a process. What we "know" today will be disproven tomorrow. My opinion, however, is to learn all we can and do the best we can at the time. If our theories are later disproven, at least we acted in good faith and on the best information available at the time. Isn't the same true of medical "truths" and "truths" about the best way to rear children?

Deborah

 

[MINE!!]

Date: 6/7/2005 12:09:34 PM
Author: AGBF

I like you, Mine, even though I know (conspiracy theory here) you are out to get me .

I don''t believe in throwing out books and I have kept many of my old history books. (OK. OK. Almost *all* of them!) In my opinion the trick to history is not to throw away the books with distortions, but to read more books that clarify the distortions.

Of *COURSE* you are right about the errors. Every decent historian knows that there are errors. History is a process. What we ''know'' today will be disproven tomorrow. My opinion, however, is to learn all we can and do the best we can at the time. If our theories are later disproven, at least we acted in good faith and on the best information available at the time. Isn''t the same true of medical ''truths'' and ''truths'' about the best way to rear children?

Deborah

Eh.. Not a problem AGBF.. Perhaps I am out to get you.. you never know!

It is good to see it from 2 rational points of view instead of name calling and finger pointing. I find in my own experience that when some ''attacks'' me with information without listening to oppsing views.. that person loses credibility with me. There are always 2 sides of the coin. The world is not alll evil, sometimes testosterone is a very good thing, and maybe just maybe we cannot explin away things that others deem imprtant just becuase we get our underwear all tied up in a knot because we don''t agree. IT is one thing to debate, it is another thing to shut our minds and refuse to budge.. instead leading with emotion instead of fact... the old way of seeing one life as more important thatn the other. Just becuase I believe that we should be in Iraqi.. becuase I see the good, does not mean that I do not greive for the things that have happened and the lives that have been lost. AND jsut becuase I think tha Nixon passed laws and did AMZING things with foreign policy in regards to the fact of China and the USSR does NOT mean that I overlook the problems that surrounded his administation. However, it does mean that I DO NOT turn a blind eye to everything positive becuase it does not agree with my sensibilities. THere are many things in this world that we can get into a ruck over.. but it is always good to understand the mind of those who oppose ours.. both left - right and straight down the center. Sometimes our greatest oponnents to something can also be our greatest sources of information and help.

Everyone can see each side as being ''wrong.'' My FI has friends that SWEAR that Republicans are cold harded bastards.. to which I can reply that Democratics are immoral losers. Name calling and finger pointing and poo pooing get us no where. Whether we life it or not, we share the same history, the same lives, the same air and the SAME country... and that is what makes us great.

 

[MINE!!]

Postmodernism?

Date: 6/7/2005 12:09:34 PM
Author: AGBF

I like you, Mine, even though I know (conspiracy theory here) you are out to get me .

I don''t believe in throwing out books and I have kept many of my old history books. (OK. OK. Almost *all* of them!) In my opinion the trick to history is not to throw away the books with distortions, but to read more books that clarify the distortions.

Of *COURSE* you are right about the errors. Every decent historian knows that there are errors. History is a process. What we ''know'' today will be disproven tomorrow.

Deborah