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Gabut1212

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Hi Everyone,

Just received this custom ring through from Ritani containing a mined oval diamond. I don't know whether I'm just overthinking things, or whether the below issues are a genuine reason for concern:

1. Would you say the bow-tie effect on this diamond is too pronounced? I was assured during the design process by the in-house gemologist that it was minimal on this diamond, but I wanted other opinions

2. The diamond looks to not be set correctly into the prongs. When holding the ring between my finger and thumb and very lightly gripping the diamond, I can feel that there is a very small amount of 'rocking' movement from the diamond. I understand that there should be no movement at all. Inspecting the prong 'claws' more closely, it looks like 2 of the claws aren't gripping the diamond fully, with maybe less than a millimeter gap between the diamond and the claws.

3. The prongs are uneven. I understand these rings are hand set, so I don't imagine they'd ever be 100% symmetrical, but these look way too out of balance.

I've requested a return to repair the defects. Instead, should I just get a refund and look elsewhere?

I appreciate any thoughts!

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Gabut1212 said:
Hi Everyone,

Just received this custom ring through from Ritani containing a mined oval diamond. I don't know whether I'm just overthinking things, or whether the below issues are a genuine reason for concern:

1. Would you say the bow-tie effect on this diamond is too pronounced? I was assured during the design process by the in-house gemologist that it was minimal on this diamond, but I wanted other opinions

2. The diamond looks to not be set correctly into the prongs. When holding the ring between my finger and thumb and very lightly gripping the diamond, I can feel that there is a very small amount of 'rocking' movement from the diamond. I understand that there should be no movement at all. Inspecting the prong 'claws' more closely, it looks like 2 of the claws aren't gripping the diamond fully, with maybe less than a millimeter gap between the diamond and the claws.

3. The prongs are uneven. I understand these rings are hand set, so I don't imagine they'd ever be 100% symmetrical, but these look way too out of balance.

I've requested a return to repair the defects. Instead, should I just get a refund and look elsewhere?

I appreciate any thoughts!

20221209_155305.jpg20221209_155444.jpg20221209_155551.jpg20221209_155425.jpg20221209_155341.jpg
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I’m not an expert by any means but I do see a bow tie.
 
Ritani has great diamond prices but their settings leave a lot to be desired. Also I see a bow tie.
 
I see a significant bow tie.
 
That you can see a bow tie in a picture with the camera that close is expected, judge it by what your eyes see, not what the camera shows.
The camera puts 3-4x sometimes more obstruction than you do.
 
Gabut1212 said:
Hi Everyone,

Just received this custom ring through from Ritani containing a mined oval diamond. I don't know whether I'm just overthinking things, or whether the below issues are a genuine reason for concern:

1. Would you say the bow-tie effect on this diamond is too pronounced? I was assured during the design process by the in-house gemologist that it was minimal on this diamond, but I wanted other opinions

2. The diamond looks to not be set correctly into the prongs. When holding the ring between my finger and thumb and very lightly gripping the diamond, I can feel that there is a very small amount of 'rocking' movement from the diamond. I understand that there should be no movement at all. Inspecting the prong 'claws' more closely, it looks like 2 of the claws aren't gripping the diamond fully, with maybe less than a millimeter gap between the diamond and the claws.

3. The prongs are uneven. I understand these rings are hand set, so I don't imagine they'd ever be 100% symmetrical, but these look way too out of balance.

I've requested a return to repair the defects. Instead, should I just get a refund and look elsewhere?

I appreciate any thoughts!

20221209_155305.jpg20221209_155444.jpg20221209_155551.jpg20221209_155425.jpg20221209_155341.jpg
Click to expand...

If you feel any movement at all, get the prongs fixed before wearing the ring. I made this mistake with one of my colored gemstones and the gemstone got some damage from moving around a tiny bit in a loose prong. I know diamonds are tough, but better safe than sorry!
 
When deciding to return and get something new, I think you need to decide whether you want to stick with this oval or not. If you
do not want to stick with this stone then just return the whole thing. If you want to stick with this stone then give them a chance
to "fix" the setting (one chance).

If you decide you don't like this stone (its what I call an 8 main off set; 8 mains with arrows not going through the center), you
may want to look at stones that have 6 mains or 8 mains that go through the center. You can see how many mains (and where
they go) by looking at your GIA report clarity plot (pavilion view).

Ignore the clarity on these...just trying to show you the different faceting patterns.

8 mains going through the center example
6 main
also 4 mains

There are also 10 mains.

You can find "good" and "not-so-good" versions of each type but the 8 main off sets are notorious for having the look you posted
so if you don't like it you might look for a different faceting pattern.
 
tyty333 said:
When deciding to return and get something new, I think you need to decide whether you want to stick with this oval or not. If you
do not want to stick with this stone then just return the whole thing. If you want to stick with this stone then give them a chance
to "fix" the setting (one chance).

If you decide you don't like this stone (its what I call an 8 main off set; 8 mains with arrows not going through the center), you
may want to look at stones that have 6 mains or 8 mains that go through the center. You can see how many mains (and where
they go) by looking at your GIA report clarity plot (pavilion view).

Ignore the clarity on these...just trying to show you the different faceting patterns.

8 mains going through the center example
6 main
also 4 mains

There are also 10 mains.

You can find "good" and "not-so-good" versions of each type but the 8 main off sets are notorious for having the look you posted
so if you don't like it you might look for a different faceting pattern.
Click to expand...

I know nothing about ovals but that 6 mains is very appealing to my eye
 
tyty333 said:
When deciding to return and get something new, I think you need to decide whether you want to stick with this oval or not. If you
do not want to stick with this stone then just return the whole thing. If you want to stick with this stone then give them a chance
to "fix" the setting (one chance).

If you decide you don't like this stone (its what I call an 8 main off set; 8 mains with arrows not going through the center), you
may want to look at stones that have 6 mains or 8 mains that go through the center. You can see how many mains (and where
they go) by looking at your GIA report clarity plot (pavilion view).

Ignore the clarity on these...just trying to show you the different faceting patterns.

8 mains going through the center example
6 main
also 4 mains

There are also 10 mains.

You can find "good" and "not-so-good" versions of each type but the 8 main off sets are notorious for having the look you posted
so if you don't like it you might look for a different faceting pattern.
Click to expand...

Thanks for teaching me something new!
 
There should be zero movement. Call them, send it back and let them deal with it. This should be free (including shipping) and reasonably fast. Immediately is a good schedule so there won't be an argument about how you somehow damaged it. This is a tricky one because your other issue is if you want to keep it at all. If you decide you don't, send it back and it's entirely their problem. Fixing it and THEN deciding you don't want it for other reasons is certainly possible but it may eat up your return window.
 
It looks like a mess IMO as far as how the stone was set. But does anyone else think the girdle looks really thin?
 
I should preface this by saying that I am also not a diamond connoisseur. But don't all ovals have a bow tie to some extent? To my eyes, and what I imagine the diamond would look like at a normal viewing size, the one in your stone looks relatively minor. Look at this guy... :shock:

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So that's the first thing you need to consider... whether you like the diamond. I think it's gorgeous. If you want to keep this stone, it's definitely worth it (and much more cost effective) to have Ritani fix the mounting. Loose stones give me nightmares, so that must be taken care of forthwith. I also think the asymmetry in the prongs goes beyond bespoke charm. They're misaligned. Period. Ritani should fix these issues at zero cost to you. Good luck! And welcome to PS!!
 
If the stone is loose, then bay all means have it tightened. In that process, the setting will re-align the prongs a tiny bit and the end result should look evenly spaced and have no visible tilting.

As it is now, I really don't see any noticeable misalignment of the prongs from the top or side views. I don't believe any observer looking at the ring to admire the stone and mounting will see anything off or improper.

The bow tie you have in the photo is mostly the camera lens and camera body obstruction. I don't think there is a bow tie problem with normal obstruction from an observer.
 
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