Diamond Traps for side stones

[Gemobsessed]

Hi everyone!

I’m considering buying diamonds traps online for side stones for a CS. But I really don’t know what a good price in diamonds is...

Does this look like a good deal? Also attaching my stone for eye candy!

 

[metall]

Beautiful CS...I might suggest posting this over at Rocky talk regarding price, my comment is that 30cttw seems like it might be very small for the size of your CS. (That looks arpund 7mm to me...but if it's smaller it might be fine...

 

[qubitasaurus]

I would also post it to Rocky talk as they may comment on the cut.

I actually would personally pick the traps to be smaller than the centre stone anyway. As I like the style

https://www.leonmege.com/evening-we...ng-colombian-emerald-trapezoid-diamond-detail

https://www.leonmege.com/evening-wear/three-stone-ring-tanzanite-detail
https://www.leonmege.com/evening-wear/three-stone-ring-tanzanite-detail
(there is a bit of a difference in cut, but I think maybe the ones you have picked might suit your centre stone better anyway).

You could look through Mydaimondzone(Ivy and Rose), Multicolour and Leibish for price comps. But I think this pair are actually quite cheap from what I have seen. Rocky talk would know though (I can only guess).

 

[qubitasaurus]

By the way the centre stone is gorgeous! Such a beautiful colour.

 

[Rissyl]

Beautiful stone! I was at a gem fair recently where they were selling diamond lots of all sorts of cut and colour. Think I was quoted something like $700 / ct for 0.2ct rounds of F colour, VS1. Not sure this helps!

 

[chatoyancy]

Your stone is gorgeous. What is the carat weight? I’m wondering is tw of .5 carats of diamond would be sufficient. Someone who knows more can chime in. What color gold are you going to use?

 

[Gemobsessed]

Hi all,

I measured the side of my tourmaline and it’s 7.5mm in total but below the tapered edges it’s 4.5 mm or so. That’s why looking at trapezium shaped stones to match.

I actually am now considering Danburites. I honestly prefer spending my money on CS

What do you guys think?

 

[Gemobsessed]

I would also post it to Rocky talk as they may comment on the cut.

I actually would personally pick the traps to be smaller than the centre stone anyway. As I like the style

https://www.leonmege.com/evening-we...ng-colombian-emerald-trapezoid-diamond-detail

https://www.leonmege.com/evening-wear/three-stone-ring-tanzanite-detail
(there is a bit of a difference in cut, but I think maybe the ones you have picked might suit your centre stone better anyway).

You could look through Mydaimondzone(Ivy and Rose), Multicolour and Leibish for price comps. But I think this pair are actually quite cheap from what I have seen. Rocky talk would know though (I can only guess).

I love these !! Thank you so much for the reference. I will show them to my jeweller. Yes I was planning slightly smaller traps versus exactly the length of the CS.

 

[Gemobsessed]

Your stone is gorgeous. What is the carat weight? I’m wondering is tw of .5 carats of diamond would be sufficient. Someone who knows more can chime in. What color gold are you going to use?

I was thinking white gold. It’s a 2.3 carat Nigerian blue green tourmaline from excess designs. I keep staring at it

 

[Gemobsessed]

Beautiful stone! I was at a gem fair recently where they were selling diamond lots of all sorts of cut and colour. Think I was quoted something like $700 / ct for 0.2ct rounds of F colour, VS1. Not sure this helps!

This does help! But good thing is also that yours is VS1 so probably why it’s much higher.

Still I do agree, this is a good rate. I’m just uncomfortable buying diamonds online. Never done it before!

 

[MollyMalone]

I would also post it to Rocky talk as they may comment on the cut. * * *

Unfortunately, this particular vendor's non-stock photos of the trapezoid pairs in their inventory aren't very useful in ascertaining the cut of the stones, but the cut of these particular ones seems kinda random, hodge-podgey & I'm left wondering how well matched this pair really is : - /

@Gemobsessed , may I ask if there is any particular reason you're not leaving it to the jeweler who will be making the ring to source the diamond trapezoids? Those in the trade typically have access to lots more side stone diamonds than us consumers can hope to order & the jeweler should be able to "call in" several different sizes of traps (if they don't have suitable ones already at hand) so that you can more easily determine which pair pleases you the most alongside that very pretty tourmaline.

Have you seen faceted Danburite in real life, so can be confident you're OK with its more "glassy" appearance?

 

[Gemobsessed]

Unfortunately, this particular vendor's non-stock photos of the trapezoid pairs in their inventory aren't very useful in ascertaining the cut of the stones, but the cut of these particular ones seems kinda random, hodge-podgey & I'm left wondering how well matched this pair really is : - /

@Gemobsessed , may I ask if there is any particular reason you're not leaving it to the jeweler who will be making the ring to source the diamond trapezoids? Those in the trade typically have access to lots more side stone diamonds than us consumers can hope to order & the jeweler should be able to "call in" several different sizes of traps (if they don't have suitable ones already at hand) so that you can more easily determine which pair pleases you the most alongside that very pretty tourmaline.

Have you seen faceted Danburite in real life, so can be confident you're OK with its more "glassy" appearance?

Hi Molly,

Yes the appearance is a bit Random which is one of the reasons why I decided to do away this option. My Jeweler is really expensive and frankly I’m not sure she will be able to get me something within my budget. That’s why I was looking towards other sources. But yes it doesn’t hurt to ask.

Danburite- I haven’t made up my mind yet exactly because I’m still researching. Could you share what you know about it’s appearance - glassy as you called it? Does it look too transparent?

 

[MollyMalone]

Yes, do ask your jeweler about sourcing the traps. Obviously not all jewelers have the same MO, but there are jewelers who are willing to charge little more than the wholesale price on side stones when they are the ones fabricating the ring.

Google isn't coming up with any images or videos of Danburite traps, but here's a video of a well cut 3+ ct Danburite that accurately captures the comparable/similar Danburites I've seen:

fwiw, I think Danburite looks best when concave-cut
https://www.etsy.com/listing/519859274/danburite-9mm-trillion-concave-cut-215ct
and I think it's nice for a "fantasy" cut like John Dyer does, because it really showcases that kind of unusual design:
https://johndyergems.com/catalog_pages/gemstone-Danburite75.html

 

[chatoyancy]

I was thinking white gold. It’s a 2.3 carat Nigerian blue green tourmaline from excess designs. I keep staring at it

Whoa!! Very nice. I would stare at it too!

 

[Gemobsessed]

Yes, do ask your jeweler about sourcing the traps. Obviously not all jewelers have the same MO, but there are jewelers who are willing to charge little more than the wholesale price on side stones when they are the ones fabricating the ring.

Google isn't coming up with any images or videos of Danburite traps, but here's a video of a well cut 3+ ct Danburite that accurately captures the comparable/similar Danburites I've seen:

fwiw, I think Danburite looks best when concave-cut
https://www.etsy.com/listing/519859274/danburite-9mm-trillion-concave-cut-215ct
and I think it's nice for a "fantasy" cut like John Dyer does, because it really showcases that kind of unusual design:
https://johndyergems.com/catalog_pages/gemstone-Danburite75.html

These are lovely! Especially the video. For traps I was thinking of a step cut. What do you think?

 

[7188429]

For side stones I feel it's more about symmetry and how identical they are more than clarity/color. The measurements should be as similar to eachother as possible.

For an 'affordable' center stone I would choose 'affordable' side stones. Unfortunately, I've found that even a 0.10 mm difference in side diamond's can cause problems in regard to symmetry when mounted. A good mounter could make it less visible but I doubt it would ever look 'perfect'. The facets will not be identical to eachother and will most likely be noticable when the diamonds are compared to eachother.