Does anyone have an enhanced blue diamond ring?

[BlackEyedDog]

Hello everyone!

I am in the process of exploring my blue stone options. Up for consideration is a sapphire (blue or color change), a cultured (man-made) diamond, or an enhanced blue diamond. Obviously, they are all very unique shades of blue. Ultimately, I think price will determine the outcome, but I wouldn''t be me if I didn''t engage in exhaustive research

Does anyone here have an enhanced blue diamond ring? I understand that the color is more teal than blue and that this is a clear indication that the diamond has been irradiated or otherwise treated. As a visual, I found this one on Overstock. I won''t be purchasing one on here, but nevertheless it gives you an idea.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/10/2010 2:22:53 PM
Author:BlackEyedDog
Hello everyone!

I am in the process of exploring my blue stone options. Up for consideration is a sapphire (blue or color change), a cultured (man-made) diamond, or an enhanced blue diamond. Obviously, they are all very unique shades of blue. Ultimately, I think price will determine the outcome, but I wouldn't be me if I didn't engage in exhaustive research

Does anyone here have an enhanced blue diamond ring? I understand that the color is more teal than blue and that this is a clear indication that the diamond has been irradiated or otherwise treated. As a visual, I found this one on Overstock. I won't be purchasing one on here, but nevertheless it gives you an idea.

Hi blackeyed dog,

Yes, Pricescoper Rod's SO has a blue treated diamond if I remember rightly, I will page him over in the Healthier Lifestyle thread so he might be able to help you presently.

 

[y2kitty]

Date: 3/10/2010 2:37:05 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 3/10/2010 2:22:53 PM

Author:BlackEyedDog

Hello everyone!


I am in the process of exploring my blue stone options. Up for consideration is a sapphire (blue or color change), a cultured (man-made) diamond, or an enhanced blue diamond. Obviously, they are all very unique shades of blue. Ultimately, I think price will determine the outcome, but I wouldn''t be me if I didn''t engage in exhaustive research


Does anyone here have an enhanced blue diamond ring? I understand that the color is more teal than blue and that this is a clear indication that the diamond has been irradiated or otherwise treated. As a visual, I found this one on Overstock. I won''t be purchasing one on here, but nevertheless it gives you an idea.

Hi blackeyed dog,


Yes, Pricescoper Rod''s SO has a blue treated diamond if I remember rightly, I will page him over in the Healthier Lifestyle thread so he might be able to help you presently.

I recall someone having a blue treated diamond set by Leon, was this him?

 

[T L]

Date: 3/10/2010 2:39:42 PM
Author: y2kitty

I recall someone having a blue treated diamond set by Leon, was this him?

That was actually a synthetic blue diamond (lab created but a real diamond), and a really beautiful stone. it is more of the greyish blue you seen in natural colored blue diamonds. They are a fraction of the cost of a natural blue diamond, and cost about as much as natural white diamonds if I recall. In the synthetics part of the subforums, there is more information on them. We''re really not supposed to discuss synthetics here in this subforum, but I just wanted to point it out as an option.

Enhanced color blue diamonds are natural (mined from the earth) diamonds, but irradiated to give them a blue color that is more reminicent of a turquoise or greenish blue color, unlike natural colored blue diamonds or the synthetic counterparts. LovingDiamonds has some. I hope she chimes in.

 

[Burberrygirl]

Date: 3/10/2010 2:39:42 PM
Author: y2kitty
I recall someone having a blue treated diamond set by Leon, was this him?

y2kitty, I think this is the ring you''re thinking of, jtbassic''s Leon.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/10/2010 2:39:42 PM
Author: y2kitty

Date: 3/10/2010 2:37:05 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 3/10/2010 2:22:53 PM

Author:BlackEyedDog

Hello everyone!


I am in the process of exploring my blue stone options. Up for consideration is a sapphire (blue or color change), a cultured (man-made) diamond, or an enhanced blue diamond. Obviously, they are all very unique shades of blue. Ultimately, I think price will determine the outcome, but I wouldn''t be me if I didn''t engage in exhaustive research


Does anyone here have an enhanced blue diamond ring? I understand that the color is more teal than blue and that this is a clear indication that the diamond has been irradiated or otherwise treated. As a visual, I found this one on Overstock. I won''t be purchasing one on here, but nevertheless it gives you an idea.

Hi blackeyed dog,


Yes, Pricescoper Rod''s SO has a blue treated diamond if I remember rightly, I will page him over in the Healthier Lifestyle thread so he might be able to help you presently.

I recall someone having a blue treated diamond set by Leon, was this him?

Hi Kitty!

No it wasn''t him, good thought though!

 

[LD]

These are all irradiated blue diamonds. I wouldn''t describe them as teal blue however. They are a mid-dark blue but do show plenty of life.

 

[Indylady]

Date: 3/10/2010 3:06:29 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 3/10/2010 2:39:42 PM
Author: y2kitty

Date: 3/10/2010 2:37:05 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 3/10/2010 2:22:53 PM

Author:BlackEyedDog

Hello everyone!


I am in the process of exploring my blue stone options. Up for consideration is a sapphire (blue or color change), a cultured (man-made) diamond, or an enhanced blue diamond. Obviously, they are all very unique shades of blue. Ultimately, I think price will determine the outcome, but I wouldn''t be me if I didn''t engage in exhaustive research


Does anyone here have an enhanced blue diamond ring? I understand that the color is more teal than blue and that this is a clear indication that the diamond has been irradiated or otherwise treated. As a visual, I found this one on Overstock. I won''t be purchasing one on here, but nevertheless it gives you an idea.

Hi blackeyed dog,


Yes, Pricescoper Rod''s SO has a blue treated diamond if I remember rightly, I will page him over in the Healthier Lifestyle thread so he might be able to help you presently.

I recall someone having a blue treated diamond set by Leon, was this him?

Hi Kitty!

No it wasn''t him, good thought though!

Lorelei, are you sure? The link Burberry provided was for a lab-created blue diamond by D. NEA, which was then set in a double halo by Leon. I love its gray-blue color.

 

[Burberrygirl]

Lorelei, I found Rod''s thread with pictures of his and his partner''s rings, LINK.

 

[LD]

Hasn't Catmom got a wonderful blue diamond ring???????

Edit: Yes she does! I've found it here ................

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/pics-of-irridated-blue-diamonds.111855/

There's some great photos of blue diamonds in here.

 

[BlackEyedDog]

Thank you all for your help! Also, for the links to the other forums. I swear, I looked around here for an hour and didn''t see them!

 

[m00sie]

Nice thread

I hope you don''t mind me semi-hijacking your thread BlackEyedDog, but does anyone know how the irradiated blue diamonds are valued?

Presumably they are worth less than an untreated diamond, but how much less?

 

[LD]

Date: 3/10/2010 4:23:46 PM
Author: m00sie
Nice thread

I hope you don''t mind me semi-hijacking your thread BlackEyedDog, but does anyone know how the irradiated blue diamonds are valued?

Presumably they are worth less than an untreated diamond, but how much less?

Natural blue diamonds are very very very very very very expensive (not sure I''ve typed enough "very''s"!) and extremely hard to source so it''s not possible to compare a natural untreated blue diamond to anything!!!

Treated blue diamonds (depending on whether they are coated, HPHT, irradiated) etc., have different values. For example, coated diamonds are not much per carat because the process isn''t stable, can be scratched off etc. Irradiated and HPHT are stable treatments and the colour permeates through the stone. However, you then come back to size, clarity, colour etc., etc., very much the same with a normal diamond. So, if you took a white diamond of I2 clarity, you wouldn''t compare it in price to a VS1 clarity - it''s the same for treated blue diamonds.

HPHT and Irradiated diamonds are NOT cheap (the good ones anyway). You can find dire examples on Ebay where they are highly included and cut badly. However, good ones with a great clarity and cut can command very decent prices and are not a million miles away from the price of a similar cut/clarity white diamond.

 

[BlackEyedDog]

Ah! A thread pirate!

Thanks, m00sie! I, too, am very curious about value.

I''m considering a treated blue diamond for an engagment ring because I want something non-traditional, but one of my goals is to have a ring worthy of passing down to future generations. If nothing else, I want my ring to have some keepsake quality other than the sheer sentimentality of it.

So, I''ll bump m00sie''s post and ask if anyone believes them to be on the low end of the value scale in terms of appraisal, resale, etc.

 

[BlackEyedDog]

Thanks, LovingDiamonds! I see our posts crossed

I''m curious about Overstock.com. Each time I search for blue diamonds, they pop up and I get what I posted above. They''re irradiated blue diamonds, generally with clarity of S12. I imagine these inclusions would be less of a concern in darker stones? Am I naive to say so? Thing is, I actually really like the one I posted above and I''m considering forwarding it to my love. (I''ve been asked to compile several options for him to choose from, so there''s at least *some* element of surprise) I like Overstock''s return policy, but I''m wary because diamonds aren''t their specialty.

Is irradiation something you can ask your average jeweler to do? And when choosing an irradiated blue diamond, are you always going to find a lesser quality stone?

 

[LD]

Date: 3/10/2010 4:44:23 PM
Author: BlackEyedDog
Thanks, LovingDiamonds! I see our posts crossed

I'm curious about Overstock.com. Each time I search for blue diamonds, they pop up and I get what I posted above. They're irradiated blue diamonds, generally with clarity of S12. I imagine these inclusions would be less of a concern in darker stones? Am I naive to say so? Thing is, I actually really like the one I posted above and I'm considering forwarding it to my love. (I've been asked to compile several options for him to choose from, so there's at least *some* element of surprise) I like Overstock's return policy, but I'm wary because diamonds aren't their specialty.

Is irradiation something you can ask your average jeweler to do? And when choosing an irradiated blue diamond, are you always going to find a lesser quality stone?

No. Irradiation is a specialised treatment. Most average jewellers don't have access to the equipment. However they may be able to source irradiated diamonds for you

and

No. This is a fallacy. All my irradiated blues are VS2 or above. The very best irradiated stones use diamonds that have a very very good clarity to begin with. If you look at the link I posted above you'll see a yellow irradiated diamond I posted that is actually IF in clarity.

There are good irradiated blues and bad irradiated blues. I've seen some that are so dark you'd struggle to know they were blue. I've seen ones that are highly included and the colour doesn't hide them. I've seen some that are wonderful clarity but yuck colour! You really need to see a range and see what appeals to you.

As for buying for an heirloom. I don't think this is a good idea. I don't know what value irradiated diamonds will have in the future so my suggestion would be to buy if you like it and forget any idea of what value it may have in the future. Many people don't like treated diamonds so you're swimming against a tide at the moment - who knows what will happen in the future though!

As for Overstock? I'm not sure that their SI2s will be GIA SI2s.

 

[Catmom]

Thanks for showing my ring LD!!

 

[MustangGal]

I have a white/blue diamond band, the blues in it are more on the teal side. I''ve only really looked at ebay, Overstock, etc., and those blues are usually pretty included, and also cheap. I got a .40ct for around $75, included but the color masked most of it.

I know better irradieated blues are out there, it just might take a bit mroe searching.

 

[Indylady]

Date: 3/10/2010 4:51:12 PM
Author: LovingDiamonds

Date: 3/10/2010 4:44:23 PM
Author: BlackEyedDog
Thanks, LovingDiamonds! I see our posts crossed

I''m curious about Overstock.com. Each time I search for blue diamonds, they pop up and I get what I posted above. They''re irradiated blue diamonds, generally with clarity of S12. I imagine these inclusions would be less of a concern in darker stones? Am I naive to say so? Thing is, I actually really like the one I posted above and I''m considering forwarding it to my love. (I''ve been asked to compile several options for him to choose from, so there''s at least *some* element of surprise) I like Overstock''s return policy, but I''m wary because diamonds aren''t their specialty.

Is irradiation something you can ask your average jeweler to do? And when choosing an irradiated blue diamond, are you always going to find a lesser quality stone?

No. Irradiation is a specialised treatment. Most average jewellers don''t have access to the equipment. However they may be able to source irradiated diamonds for you

and

No. This is a fallacy. All my irradiated blues are VS2 or above. The very best irradiated stones use diamonds that have a very very good clarity to begin with. If you look at the link I posted above you''ll see a yellow irradiated diamond I posted that is actually IF in clarity.

There are good irradiated blues and bad irradiated blues. I''ve seen some that are so dark you''d struggle to know they were blue. I''ve seen ones that are highly included and the colour doesn''t hide them. I''ve seen some that are wonderful clarity but yuck colour! You really need to see a range and see what appeals to you.

As for buying for an heirloom. I don''t think this is a good idea. I don''t know what value irradiated diamonds will have in the future so my suggestion would be to buy if you like it and forget any idea of what value it may have in the future. Many people don''t like treated diamonds so you''re swimming against a tide at the moment - who knows what will happen in the future though!

As for Overstock? I''m not sure that their SI2s will be GIA SI2s.

+1 I have to agree with LD, you are swimming against the tide. However, it depends on why you want an cultured or irridiated diamond. If you want a cultured diamond because you won''t have to worry about a "conflicted" or "blood" diamond, you''re interested in fair trading, because you are against the ecological damage that mining may cause, because you want to have more options as to exactly what color/shade of blue diamond that you want, or because you''re "into" technology, then buying a cultured diamond is just fine. If its a family policy to encourage an eco-friendly lifestyle (I''m not saying that all mining is harmful) then your children might appreciate this as well. However, like LD said, you will be swimming against the tide as many people do love the romaticism of a gem that is made entirely by nature, and of having a gem that can''t necessarily be recreated.

 

[LD]

I just want to clarify when I have referred to blue diamonds above I've referred to HPHT and irradiated diamonds which are natural and not man-made diamonds. They shouldn't be confused with synthetic or man made diamonds.

 

[LadyBlue]

DearBuddha has a blue diamond as well link

 

[Rod]

Hello BlackEyedDog,

Lorelei sent me a message that you were considering a treated blue diamond. My partner and I had custom rings made a few years ago and his is a 1.06 carat blue center stone, flanked by two white 1/3 carat stones. I see BurberryGirl provided the link to our rings. The stone is blue with some hint of teal, but mainly blue and was ordered through a very fine jeweler (not a national chain). With the knowledge I gained on PS, we provided the specifications we wanted and they ordered in several stones for our approval. The stone we selected is stunning. And like LovingDiamonds said, a really good quality irradiated diamond that has the qualities you would expect from a white diamond is expensive. The blue stone we bought was not less expensive than the GIA graded stone I selected for my center stone, but we were very specific about the cut and clarity.

When we''re out, his stone get''s way more comments than mine, so I hope if you decide on a blue diamond, you''ll have fun getting yours. Just make sure you specify the cut and clarity you want and you can have a beautiful diamond.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/10/2010 4:00:13 PM
Author: Burberrygirl
Lorelei, I found Rod''s thread with pictures of his and his partner''s rings, LINK.

Thanks Burbs'' and thanks Rod!!!

 

[snuapril01]

i have no problem with having irradiated diamonds.
I got my engagement ring made with irradiated blue diamond with two white diamonds as side stones as well, and I just happen to love teal-turquoise blue color in general.
and it has wonderful sparkle and fire to it. thus far I have owned it for 9 months and no problem with any color change.

there are some rare occasions that some people got their good quality certified diamonds irradiated only because they wanted to change the color of the stone.
so, in this case if you still have the certificate to prove that the original stone's value was already high, you will have that confident and evidence that your stone is something worthy of passing down.

but, you would also have to consider the factor no matter what kind of stone it is, even if the stone is GIA top notch white round or princess or heart shape..
there is a possibility that the person who you are planning on giving it to, may prefer some other stone.
in fact, i am one of those strange people and actually have turned down the GIA certified 1ct round IF quality diamond , because I wanted to have my 3ct irradiated blue diamond in VS2 quality.
here's the pic if curious.
https://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/a4a0_1.JPG

i think if you love the ring, you totally should get it.
but if your priority is what the majority values more, than the answer is of course no.

to me, my e ring is my special ring. and I just like to know that I have something different from everybody else. and being special is actually complete opposite of what the majority likes.

 

[tigerhearted]

Yup! My original e-ring is an irradiated blue diamond. It's a nice peacock blue, though not a great quality cut or clarity. We knew nothing about these things when we bought it, it was a spontaneous moment lol. Pics here: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-e-ring-3.136160/