Does anyone here own bixbite/red beryl?

[LoversKites]

I'd love to see your bixbite if you have any. I saw one in person -- really beautiful. Oh so hard to find quality ones.

 

[Marlow]

I have three red beryl ( 0,10 , 0,35 and 0,60 ct) - please don't use "bixbite" !!

Make a daylight pick tomorrow....now it is 11 pm here ..

 

[LoversKites]

I have three red beryl ( 0,10 , 0,35 and 0,60 ct) - please don't use "bixbite" !!

Make a daylight pick tomorrow....now it is 11 pm here ..

Cool, thanks! What's wrong with using 'bixbite' ?

 

[Marlow]

There is another mineral - bixbyite (Mn,Fe)2O3.

Red emerald would be

 

[T L]

I have a crystal specimen.

There's a gorgeous one in a ring at the Field Museum of Chicago that I've seen in person. Really beautiful red, but so rare.

 

[MJO]

I have a couple of small stones and know a facetor that has 2 large 1+ct stones. Most stones are Excel treated. Even the mine owners sent the cut stones they owned to Arthur Groome to have the stones treated to improve clarity and more stable. The stone the cutter has are not treated but are slightly included and are about $5000/ct

 

[pregcurious]

There's a nice picture of one here:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/amazed-by-this-bixbite-red-beryl.195333/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/amazed-by-this-bixbite-red-beryl.195333/[/URL]

 

[Marlow]

Here my three red beryl - a 0,10 ct pear, a 0,35 ct keystone and a 0,60 ct emerald cut.



A second pic with 2 pezzotaite (0,27 ct and 0,45 ct) - Pezzotaite is NOT red beryl - a mineral belongs to the beryl group.

Both are colored by Mn 3+

 

[LoversKites]

Here my three red beryl - a 0,10 ct pear, a 0,35 ct keystone and a 0,60 ct emerald cut.



A second pic with 2 pezzotaite (0,27 ct and 0,45 ct) - Pezzotaite is NOT red beryl - a mineral belongs to the beryl group.

Both are colored by Mn 3+

The keystone one is particularly awesome -- thanks a lot for sharing. I won't refer to it as bixbite any longer.

 

[LoversKites]

There's a nice picture of one here:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/amazed-by-this-bixbite-red-beryl.195333/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/amazed-by-this-bixbite-red-beryl.195333/[/URL]

Wow, thanks for the link.

 

[T L]

I just found out they make synthetic bixbite, so buyer beware if you're in the market. It should have a reputable lab report.

http://www.jtv.com/jewelry?prefn1=A_GEM_STONE&prefv1=Bixbite&mcid=XSOpinterest&crlt.pid=camp.Rd7nuCqzP4RG

They even make them with realistic looking inclusions!

 

[LoversKites]

I just found out they make synthetic bixbite, so buyer beware if you're in the market. It should have a reputable lab report.

http://www.jtv.com/jewelry?prefn1=A_GEM_STONE&prefv1=Bixbite&mcid=XSOpinterest&crlt.pid=camp.Rd7nuCqzP4RG

They even make them with realistic looking inclusions!

Very interesting. The inclusions probably occur with the growth process. Will have to do some research.

I love synthetics, honestly

 

[Marlow]

The synthetic material I have seen so far has an orange hue - they are not able to get the natural color.

http://www.gia.edu/cs/Satellite?blobcol=gfile&blobheader=application%2Fpdf&blobheadername1=Content-Disposition&blobheadername2=MDT-Type&blobheadername3=Content-Type&blobheadervalue1=attachment%3B+filename%3DHydrothermal-Synthetic-Red-Beryl-from-the-Institute-of-Crystallography%2C-Moscow&blobheadervalue2=abinary%3B+charset%3DUTF-8&blobheadervalue3=application%2Funknown&blobkey=id&blobtable=GIA_DocumentFile&blobwhere=1355958233995&ssbinary=true

 

[T L]

On JTV, if you look at the opinions of the rings in the link I posted, some people describe these colors as "magenta" or "pink." You never know.

 

[Marlow]

The pictures look like rhodolite - photoshopped!?

 

[lilmosun]

My neighbor showed me a stone that was sold to her as "Bixbite from Utah" at a Tucson Gem show - probably in the late 90's. She was wondering if it might not be real because she knew JTV was selling lab created ones. I recall it being a knockout magenta color...but it was the size and clarity that had us concerned. Will see if I can get a picture next time I am over there.

 

[Marlow]

If they are able to produce a better color now ( I haven't seen them) it is really a problem.
But there is almost no eyeclean natural red beryl - so large clean stones are 99,99% synthetic.

 

[LD]

Marlow I'm not sure why you're saying not to use the term Bixbite? It's well know as Bixbite was mined in Utah and the less common name is Red Beryl. I agree that years ago Pezzottaite was mis-sold as Bixbite but (to me) they look very different. I have a huge Pezz but only small Bixbites. I actually don't like the term Red Beryl because there was some misselling going on a few years ago under that name. I have no idea if that's the case now because I haven't looked for years!

 

[Marlow]

The important labs use the term " red beryl " now. There is another mineral - BIXBYITE - unfortunately named after Maynard Bixby too.

The name BIXBITE was given around 1904 - so no question it would be o.k. to use this " historical" name for a variety of Beryl - much older than "tsavorite" or "tanzanite".

Most vendor with a scientific background use red beryl or " Roter Beryll" - I bought one directly from Mr. Harris in a show - they used red beryl too.

But of course I am not allowed to tell anybody here which term he/she has to use.

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This is interesting too

http://www.gia.edu/cs/Satellite?blobcol=gfile&blobheader=application%2Fpdf&blobheadername1=Content-Disposition&blobheadername2=MDT-Type&blobheadername3=Content-Type&blobheadervalue1=attachment%3B+filename%3DGem-Quality-Red-Beryl-from-the-Wah-Wah-Mountains-Utah&blobheadervalue2=abinary%3B+charset%3DUTF-8&blobheadervalue3=application%2Funknown&blobkey=id&blobtable=GIA_DocumentFile&blobwhere=1355958478365&ssbinary=true