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Hi everyone,
I have just purchased a 3.45 Ct Pink Sapphire and diamond ring valued at 15k. I love it so much. When i tilt it at a certain angle in my carIMG_5518.jpeg I get this spot showing. Is this what you would call zoning or a window?
Thanks
Wen
 

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Hi everyone,
I have just purchased a 3.45 Ct Pink Sapphire and diamond ring valued at 15k. I love it so much. When i tilt it at a certain angle in my carIMG_5518.jpeg I get this spot showing. Is this what you would call zoning or a window?
Thanks
Wen

That's a beautiful stone! The pink-purple colour is wonderful!

The pictures in the car are not so clear, but if I'm reading them correctly, the light spot may be a tilt window. A test: If it's a tilt window, you should be able to see right through it. So hold something behind the stone, move it around a bit, and check if you can see it. A modest tilt window is not considered a fault - it's practically unavoidable.

The light spot doesn't look like zoning. I assume you are confident that it's not just a weird surface reflection.
 
I can see why you love it. What a glowing vibrant color. Gorgeous! From the other pics there doesn’t look like windowing. Perhaps just a reflection?

I think you guys are right. I think it’s a weird reflection from my windscreen. When I block the window out by putting my hand around the side of ring that blurry mark vanishes lol
Thanks all x
 
I think you guys are right. I think it’s a weird reflection from my windscreen. When I block the window out by putting my hand around the side of ring that blurry mark vanishes lol
Thanks all x

Good! Now you're free to love her with wild abandon!!
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Beautiful!!
 
I think you guys are right. I think it’s a weird reflection from my windscreen. When I block the window out by putting my hand around the side of ring that blurry mark vanishes lol
Thanks all x

Great, so you don’t need a new car ;)

Beautiful sapphire and ring, stunning color!
 
My guess is it's just the table facet reflecting at a certain angle due to the vitreous luster. It tends to reflect whatever is above it when the light hits. So in this case, sky or clouds? This is a very normal function of faceted gems, so I wouldn't concern myself with it in the slightest. Now if what you think you're seeing is some other characteristic, that may be a different story. But I've never seen a white window (unless you put white directly beneath it). Is this your first colored stone, OP? I see a most stunning diamond in your profile pic. :cool2:
 
Inside when worn doesn’t show it and outside when worn.
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My guess is it's just the table facet reflecting at a certain angle due to the vitreous luster. It tends to reflect whatever is above it when the light hits. So in this case, sky or clouds? This is a very normal function of faceted gems, so I wouldn't concern myself with it in the slightest. Now if what you think you're seeing is some other characteristic, that may be a different story. But I've never seen a white window (unless you put white directly beneath it). Is this your first colored stone, OP? I see a most stunning diamond in your profile pic. :cool2:

My guess is it's just the table facet reflecting at a certain angle due to the vitreous luster. It tends to reflect whatever is above it when the light hits. So in this case, sky or clouds? This is a very normal function of faceted gems, so I wouldn't concern myself with it in the slightest. Now if what you think you're seeing is some other characteristic, that may be a different story. But I've never seen a white window (unless you put white directly beneath it). Is this your first colored stone, OP? I see a most stunning diamond in your profile pic. :cool2:

Hi Autumn,
I have many coloured gems including Aquamarine Diamond ring,, 3 Blue sapphire rings, purple sapphire ring, Ruby Diamond Ring, Morganite diamond rings, peridot Diamond Ring, tourmaline. This is the first time I’ve come across like a blur mark which made me very curious. There’s no way I’m going to sell it as I’ve been looking for a decent one for years it’s a reflection from light that’s all I know ha ha.
 
Well I just went outside with it and tilted the stone. It makes that blurry mark again when it’s reflecting light at a certain angle but why is it a Pearl colour lol? IMG_5528.jpeg

Hmm... this is puzzling.

As Autumn in New England says, reflection from the table still seems likely. If it's a reflection from the table, it should be as sharp (or as blurry) as what it's reflecting (assuming the table is clean and properly polished, or course). So if it's blurry, it could be reflecting a soft-edged cloud. Does that seem to be what's happening? Tests would be: a) to turn the ring a bit so that the table is reflecting a different part of the sky and watch how the spot changes; b) hold a finger to partly block the light that's hitting the table - does the mark have a sharp edge reflecting your finger?

Some less likely possibilities:

Maybe it's a reflection from a pavilion facet and it's blurry because of inclusions/fogginess in the stone. Inspecting the stone with a loupe might be useful.

Maybe there is a weird inclusion. Spin the ring 180 degrees. Is the spot the same? Is it different? Or does it disappear? Also, inspect the stone with a loupe.

Maybe it's a tilt window showing something bright behind the stone (e.g. a reflection from the setting). Partly blocking the light from behind the stone could be informative.
 
It could be veil in the gem -- perhaps at a 45 degree angle to the table. I have a sapphire that does this in bright sun when I wear it in a particular orientation (I never quite know how I put it on since it's symmetric). I seldom see it and don't mind it. It was disclosed when I bought it. Most of the time, indoors and out, it is 100% eye clean.
 
That looks like thin a veil of silk that shows only at a certain angle. I would need to see it under a loupe, which I am sure would be awesome!
 
Inside when worn doesn’t show it and outside when worn.
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Hi Autumn,
I have many coloured gems including Aquamarine Diamond ring,, 3 Blue sapphire rings, purple sapphire ring, Ruby Diamond Ring, Morganite diamond rings, peridot Diamond Ring, tourmaline. This is the first time I’ve come across like a blur mark which made me very curious. There’s no way I’m going to sell it as I’ve been looking for a decent one for years it’s a reflection from light that’s all I know ha ha.

Interesting... since you're familiar with CS, now I'm unsure of what you're seeing! Because, surely, you'd have seen table facets reflect before. I echo @Starstruck8, @LilAlex, and @VividRed's suggestions for alternative scenarios. If you are in fact simply seeing a reflection, perhaps the unusual "blurriness" is from a bit of schmutz or film on the stone's surface. Try giving it a clean. I had a gem that was so dirty once, it was reflecting an oil slick rainbow off the table facet. lol Whatever the case, it's such a lovely fuchsia shade!!
 
At first I thought the title said pinky ring, and I was thinking that is one mama-jama pinky ring! :cool2: :lol:

Your new ring is STUNNING! That's there perfect combination between purple & pink. It's so vibrant and juicy. I love it!! :kiss2:
 
At first I thought the title said pinky ring, and I was thinking that is one mama-jama pinky ring! :cool2: :lol:

Your new ring is STUNNING! That's there perfect combination between purple & pink. It's so vibrant and juicy. I love it!! :kiss2:

And you should know, since you have one of the most beautiful pink sapphire rings to ever bless this forum!
 
At first I thought the title said pinky ring, and I was thinking that is one mama-jama pinky ring! :cool2: :lol:

Your new ring is STUNNING! That's there perfect combination between purple & pink. It's so vibrant and juicy. I love it!! :kiss2:

Thank you so very much
I got it for such a good price.
 
At first I thought the title said pinky ring, and I was thinking that is one mama-jama pinky ring! :cool2: :lol:

Your new ring is STUNNING! That's there perfect combination between purple & pink. It's so vibrant and juicy. I love it!! :kiss2:

Please show me your pink sapphire
 
Interesting... since you're familiar with CS, now I'm unsure of what you're seeing! Because, surely, you'd have seen table facets reflect before. I echo @Starstruck8, @LilAlex, and @VividRed's suggestions for alternative scenarios. If you are in fact simply seeing a reflection, perhaps the unusual "blurriness" is from a bit of schmutz or film on the stone's surface. Try giving it a clean. I had a gem that was so dirty once, it was reflecting an oil slick rainbow off the table facet. lol Whatever the case, it's such a lovely fuchsia shade!!

Cleaning hasn’t removed it so it’s a reflection from something possibly the peep hole underneath otherwise I do not have a clue lol
 
so it’s a reflection from something possibly the peep hole underneath

Peep hole? Is it an almost-closed setting? If there is a lot of metal at the back, that makes reflection from the setting through a tilt window plausible. Maybe you could try to insert a small bit of paper, or similar, between the metal and the stone.

Were you able to do the 'flip' test - turn the ring 180 degrees and see if the spot changes or vanishes? If it does, that suggests a veil or inclusion (or perhaps wonky cutting). If it doesn't, reflection from the setting or a pavilion facet is more likely.

Can you replicate the issue with a flashlight? If you can, you may be able to work out where the light is going.
 
I have been researching and the thing that most describes this would be Adularescence. It usually appears in Moonstones but can rarely appear in sapphires.
 
I have been researching and the thing that most describes this would be Adularescence. It usually appears in Moonstones but can rarely appear in sapphires.

That would be very cool, if true. But adularescence in sapphire must be very rare. I've seen examples of schiller in sapphire, caused by aligned platy inclusions. I've seen no examples of moonstone-style adularescence, i.e. caused by thin layers with alternating RIs. So it would be wise to definitively rule out the more obvious possibilities first.
 
That would be very cool, if true. But adularescence in sapphire must be very rare. I've seen examples of schiller in sapphire, caused by aligned platy inclusions. I've seen no examples of moonstone-style adularescence, i.e. caused by thin layers with alternating RIs. So it would be wise to definitively rule out the more obvious possibilities first.

Yeah, I agree. I sincerely doubt it's true adularescence. If it's not a surface reflection, which I still think is the likeliest culprit, and if it does seem to be some internal characteristic as opposed to a cutting defect, perhaps we're looking at a partially-healed fracture/fingerprint inclusion. This occurs during crystal growth, OP, and they can display iridescence.
 
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