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Help deciding on an old cut line bracelet….

bee24

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I decided a few months ago that I wanted a tennis bracelet, however, after a few months researching I narrowed my vision to an old cut line bracelet in memory of my grandma who passed last year at nearly 103. I had set an up to 5k price range for myself. I want something wearable, lovely, with old cuts, and ideally art deco.

A couple weeks ago, @Dreamer_D posted a 1.5ctw bracelet on SGBTP thread and I purchased immediately. The bracelet did not pass the authorization process so I had to repurchase after a few days. In the meantime, I found another bracelet 2.5ctw ish, they accepted my offer for less.

They both need some tlc. The 2.5ctw latch is loose and will slide off if the safety closure is not secured and there is no safety chain but has attachments (one open) for a chain. Some of the diamonds are quite wonky, even seem to be set tilted in their settings (see pic). Two of the box settings are soldered together. One stone appears to have been replaced and is modern.

The 1.5ctw bracelet is so beautiful. These stones seem newer and better cut. It’s a smaller carat weight but the stones really shine. There is no ball for the safety closure. There is an extension which actually makes it a touch too big. When hanging my arm down, the bracelet flips on its side. The closure is sooo tiny, less than 2.5mm. It’s tricky to do consistently and feels dainty and fragile. There is a tiny dent in the metal which I’m guessing is the “metal damage” the authenticators reported. So I’d have to add a ball for safety, shorten it, and possibly think of a different closure.

I like that the 2.5 ctw is lower profile for a bracelet and it’s a touch shorter so it fits better. However, I prefer the platinum of the 1.5ctw bracelet vs the white gold and the detailed engraving is very lovely imo.

I honestly like both but they both need work before I feel comfortable wearing them. I’d consider both of them pretty good “deals” based on prices of other similar bracelets but the added expense to make them more secure/wearable possibly negates that.

To complicated matters, I’m still thinking about a 6k one. I’m tempted to buy it also and return if necessary as it feels like it’s going to stick in my brain. Though my husband would likely roll his eyes so hard he’d fall over! Plus I’d have to shorten it too.

So…. any thoughts on the age of either bracelet? And also just any thoughts in general? I know it’s up to me, I think I’m stumped as both are nearly perfect but each need some tlc. I would appreciate any input from the experts!
 

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Which one has these diamonds? I didn’t realize that yellow gold one wasn’t YG on the whole thing! If these are the YG then stones look better and I love the engraving.

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Which one has these diamonds? I didn’t realize that yellow gold one wasn’t YG on the whole thing! If these are the YG then stones look better and I love the engraving.

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Yes! Those are in the yellow/platinum one with the engraving. I agree the stones look better in that one!

If it weren’t for the very dainty/fragile clasp I’d be more certain but I’m unsure of how to “fix” that problem when the setting narrows to about 2.6mm but the clasp that goes inside is only 1.7mm-it feels so tiny! Maybe DK can come up with an idea…I think the extender adds to the fragile feeling.
 
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Yes! Those are in the yellow/platinum one with the engraving. I agree the stones look better in that one!

If it weren’t for the very dainty/fragile clasp I’d be more certain but I’m unsure of how to “fix” that problem when the setting narrows to about 2.6mm but the clasp that goes inside is only 1.7mm-it feels so tiny! Maybe DK can come up with an idea…I think the extender adds to the fragile feeling.

If you did get the one for 6K, would you actually keep either one of these? It looks like you’re gonna be thinking about it so it might be a good idea to just go ahead and pull the trigger on that one where you can compare all of them.
 
I don’t know your financial situation but I have learned to just pony up for what I want bc in the end I usually just buy it eventually anyway!

But of these I like the yg one best. I would just send it to DK and be like “fix this” lol. I have zero doubt they can make it function better.
 
If you did get the one for 6K, would you actually keep either one of these? It looks like you’re gonna be thinking about it so it might be a good idea to just go ahead and pull the trigger on that one where you can compare all of them.

If I keep the 6k one then I wouldn’t keep the smaller ones! My thought was a smaller one would “scratch the itch” for now and I’d save up for a higher ctw one in the future! I bought it so we’ll see!

I don’t know your financial situation but I have learned to just pony up for what I want bc in the end I usually just buy it eventually anyway!

But of these I like the yg one best. I would just send it to DK and be like “fix this” lol. I have zero doubt they can make it function better.


I bought the 6k one…he dropped it 200$ lol I had offered less but that’s where we ended up. I’m also going to email DK and see what he could do to fix the yg one.
 
Can you share pictures of the 6k one??
 
Not great pictures! It’s not diamonds all around but I really like the engravings. I’d have to shorten it. I’m not sure it was a great “deal” lol I was hoping for under 5500 but couldn’t get the seller there. He said the stones are all .25s. The EGL “gem card” says F-I, so likely a few grades warmer. In the video I can see a bit of color. Platinum and estimated 1930s. We’ll see!
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The description in the video is wrong, there are no single cut diamonds.
 

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It’s gorgeous and I love the engraved boxes in the underside. Incidentally that’s what I was imagining DK could do for the small carat weight one that currently has a bar extension!
 
It’s beautiful @bee24 !
Thank you! I hope I love it when it arrives!

It’s gorgeous and I love the engraved boxes in the underside. Incidentally that’s what I was imagining DK could do for the small carat weight one that currently has a bar extension!

Yes! I think they could come up with a similar fix…I couldn’t get this one out of my head so even if I don’t end up loving it I’m glad to have the opportunity to see it. Though I think I will love it , assuming the diamonds are lovely in person and that I don’t feel like it cost more than it is worth. Do you think the stones look promising? They do to me but I’m a novice lol.
 
@bee24, Please let us know what you think when it arrives.
 
I think the diamonds look very nice! Examine them for chips or any “duds” in the mix bc it’s not possible to discern that level of detail in the video, but I see nice edge to edge brightness and nice scintillation.

I guess it’s about 3.5cttw. Scrap value for diamonds like that is about $150 each (including lab reports) but that’s individuals not a set. I’ve noticed retail is close to double. I’d assume about 3.5k for the diamonds. That would mean about 2.5k for the setting which is very good imo. You could never recreate it for anywhere near that price, I’d guess 2-3x that. So compared to what you could recreate it for it’s definitely a good price! I don’t know what pricing is like for finished bracelets though.
 
Not great pictures! It’s not diamonds all around but I really like the engravings. I’d have to shorten it. I’m not sure it was a great “deal” lol I was hoping for under 5500 but couldn’t get the seller there. He said the stones are all .25s. The EGL “gem card” says F-I, so likely a few grades warmer. In the video I can see a bit of color. Platinum and estimated 1930s. We’ll see!
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The description in the video is wrong, there are no single cut diamonds.

I really hope you love it when it arrives.

I’ve had this in my watch list for months but couldn’t risk a UK delivery if it didn’t then live up to expectations.

I am very jealous - it is beautiful :kiss2::kiss2::kiss2:
 
I think the diamonds look very nice! Examine them for chips or any “duds” in the mix bc it’s not possible to discern that level of detail in the video, but I see nice edge to edge brightness and nice scintillation.

I guess it’s about 3.5cttw. Scrap value for diamonds like that is about $150 each (including lab reports) but that’s individuals not a set. I’ve noticed retail is close to double. I’d assume about 3.5k for the diamonds. That would mean about 2.5k for the setting which is very good imo. You could never recreate it for anywhere near that price, I’d guess 2-3x that. So compared to what you could recreate it for it’s definitely a good price! I don’t know what pricing is like for finished bracelets though.
Thank you! Yes, I plan to hyper analyze each stone, and post about them lol! I am cautiously hopeful. Yes, it's 3.5ctw. This originally didn't impress me as it seemed expensive for a "lower" ctw but once I realized the diamonds didn't go all around I was intrigued/hopeful that the larger stone size would be more impactful plus I do enjoy the engraving. It shipped to the authenticator today so hopefully it passes!

I really hope you love it when it arrives.

I’ve had this in my watch list for months but couldn’t risk a UK delivery if it didn’t then live up to expectations.

I am very jealous - it is beautiful :kiss2::kiss2::kiss2:

I hope I love it! I feel a bit silly as I have bought three bracelets in about a week! I am returning one today though and impatiently awaiting the arrival of this one. I will take a lot of pictures so if I do end up returning it you can decide if its worth a UK delivery!
 
It's very pretty. Once you get it, see if the diamonds actually stay on top of your wrist and don't travel to the underside. I assume you want to see the diamonds. It probably depends on how much you shorten it and how snug you want it on your wrist.
 
It's very pretty. Once you get it, see if the diamonds actually stay on top of your wrist and don't travel to the underside. I assume you want to see the diamonds. It probably depends on how much you shorten it and how snug you want it on your wrist.

Good point! I do worry it will be hard to see how it will wear as it’s too big for my wrist and will need to be shortened. It just arrived so I will be analyzing it soon!
 
Well the bracelet arrived! It’s very beautiful! He had two different lengths listed so I was glad to find it is 7.25 instead of 8.25, I think this gives a better visual though I’d still need to shorten. @Dreamer_D , you called it. I am worried about a “dud” diamond, right in the middle of the bracelet. It is very shallow, especially compared to the others. I shared a picture, I can’t really comprehend how it is so shallow/spready…where is the other half?! lol. It sparkles in natural light but in some lighting it is a bit dead. My husband saw it instantly. It’s really too bad because I love the cuts in the others. I’m going to have to think on it for a bit. It’s not cheap (for me) so I really want it to be perfect. I see color differences in photo/video but not in person. The metal also has some wear/damage.

I have been emailing someone about another bracelet, the largest stones are .4 ct and then they gradually get smaller. However, the setting is 9mm at the widest which is a bit wider than this new one at 5mm so I worry it would be a lot of metal anddd that one is in France!

 

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Mmm.

First, how do you feel about it being a “half eternity” so to speak?

How does it compare to comps in price?

I ask bc replacing one stone would not be expensive. Diamonds that size are like 150 on eBay. But that one is a DUDDDDD.
 
It’s quite bad lol. Can you believe how shallow it is? I’m dumbfounded but also I wish I could have insight into whoever cut it lol it actually makes me laugh a bit!

I enjoy the size of the diamonds of this new bracelet…but I need to try it a bit more to see if I will become bothered by the “half eternity”.

The France one would be similar in price but obviously variation in sizes of the stones and more risk involved. I asked if there were any poorly performing stones but I don’t know if the seller would be honest…I’d like to share pictures but fear about anyone snagging it yet. I likely will before I would move forward with it.

I think I need to sit on it all for a couple days. I’m feeling a bit wary about the process…three bracelets in a week. I returned the one at least! I honestly am not in a rush so it may be worth just waiting. I also still do like the smaller ctw one!
 
I really like the smaller ct weight one. The price was very good for the look. It could be worth just keeping that and moving forward with whatever repairs/alterations and keep looking for the right larger ct weight bracelet. Then you have a little project to keep you happy while you wait and keep looking.
 
It’s quite bad lol. Can you believe how shallow it is? I’m dumbfounded but also I wish I could have insight into whoever cut it lol it actually makes me laugh a bit!

I enjoy the size of the diamonds of this new bracelet…but I need to try it a bit more to see if I will become bothered by the “half eternity”.

The France one would be similar in price but obviously variation in sizes of the stones and more risk involved. I asked if there were any poorly performing stones but I don’t know if the seller would be honest…I’d like to share pictures but fear about anyone snagging it yet. I likely will before I would move forward with it.

I think I need to sit on it all for a couple days. I’m feeling a bit wary about the process…three bracelets in a week. I returned the one at least! I honestly am not in a rush so it may be worth just waiting. I also still do like the smaller ctw one!

Is this Dudley? (Pic below)
@Lookinagain brought up an excellent point- the bracelet might travel to where the stones are on the underside. Mine is graduated and this happens all the time with mine. Unless you want it as tight as a watch would be, this is likely to happen if the underside is heavier. If the topside with the stones is heavier then you are probably good.

The French one is 9mm??? That sounds really wide for the biggest being a .4 stone. Mine is 6mm. Is it drowning in metal???


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I realize I screwed that up in my above comment - if the stones are heavier they will migrate to the underside. If the part without the stones is heavier, then the stones will stay visible.
 
Is this Dudley? (Pic below)
@Lookinagain brought up an excellent point- the bracelet might travel to where the stones are on the underside. Mine is graduated and this happens all the time with mine. Unless you want it as tight as a watch would be, this is likely to happen if the underside is heavier. If the topside with the stones is heavier then you are probably good.

The French one is 9mm??? That sounds really wide for the biggest being a .4 stone. Mine is 6mm. Is it drowning in metal???


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Dudley!! That’s perfect. Yes that is him. In that picture/lighting it was even more apparent in person and the first thing I saw when I opened the package so it was quite a let down.
I’m glad you replied with your measurements, thank you. It seems very wide to me also. I sent an email to confirm. It is only 3.5cts so it may just be too much metal.
It’s a bit long so it is hard to tell how much the diamonds will spin to the underside. I didn’t notice it much yesterday but I only wore it briefly!

I really like the smaller ct weight one. The price was very good for the look. It could be worth just keeping that and moving forward with whatever repairs/alterations and keep looking for the right larger ct weight bracelet. Then you have a little project to keep you happy while you wait and keep looking.

I’m going to email DK and see what he thinks on fixing the smaller one. It is very beautiful. My biggest concern is that it almost feels too dainty/fragile for regular wear, I want to feel comfortable to wear it all the time! Diamonds and jeans for my preschool pickup please lol. The current extender definitely adds to the fragile feeling so I have hope DK can come up w something.
 
Dudley!! That’s perfect. Yes that is him. In that picture/lighting it was even more apparent in person and the first thing I saw when I opened the package so it was quite a let down.
I’m glad you replied with your measurements, thank you. It seems very wide to me also. I sent an email to confirm. It is only 3.5cts so it may just be too much metal.
It’s a bit long so it is hard to tell how much the diamonds will spin to the underside. I didn’t notice it much yesterday but I only wore it briefly!



I’m going to email DK and see what he thinks on fixing the smaller one. It is very beautiful. My biggest concern is that it almost feels too dainty/fragile for regular wear, I want to feel comfortable to wear it all the time! Diamonds and jeans for my preschool pickup please lol. The current extender definitely adds to the fragile feeling so I have hope DK can come up w something.

I bet he could add actual links to match the others, but that might be expensive and thus negate the "deal".
 
I bet he could add actual links to match the others, but that might be expensive and thus negate the "deal".

Yeah.

But even simplified links that were just single color metal squares would be an improvement. Or some other sturdier option. It’s tempting to go whole hog and add new links with diamonds!
 
Unfortunately, DK said he would need to see the bracelets in person before he’d be able to give an estimate. I had asked for an estimate on both, just to see. I will probably reach out again to see if he’d give me a loose range.

I’ve worn them a bit more now and honestly I like them both. The diamonds almost always stay at the top/in view with the 3.5ctw. This is both good and bad as I keep seeing the bigger stones when I look down and now I know I want one with at least this size stone…one day. The 1.5ctw does spin more, which makes sense as it’s graduated so the larger stones are heaviest.

So I’m still deciding. I’m pretty sure I’ll move forward with the smaller one. I like the physical weight of the 3.5 as it just feels sturdier/more secure and my goodness looking down and seeing those bigger stones fill me with joy-except Dudley lol.

The 1.5 has a tiny dent in one of the baskets on the largest stones…do we think that DK could bend it back? I find there is often a space in that section but it can lay seamless together

A couple pictures, one with my constant companions since early January- crutches-making an appearance lol. But you can see the space I’m talking about in the 1.5. Today I drove for the first time since my knee surgery and I wore the larger one for a “real life spin” to get my hair done.

My crazy mind wants both but also 6k is a lot for one not “perfect” so hopefully I can find a better one in the future
 

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They look stunning together and I would honestly just keep both and make them safe to wear and call it a day. Like I said before you can easily replace Dudley.
 
If you prefer the larger one, and don't mind the "half eternity" part, just replace Dudley. If you want to change the smaller one so that the bar joining it together is different, you really do need at least a ball park figure. If you can keep them both, then do that, if you actually think you'll wear both together. Otherwise, I'd pick one and do whatever changes you think will make you happy.
 
They look stunning together and I would honestly just keep both and make them safe to wear and call it a day. Like I said before you can easily replace Dudley.


If you prefer the larger one, and don't mind the "half eternity" part, just replace Dudley. If you want to change the smaller one so that the bar joining it together is different, you really do need at least a ball park figure. If you can keep them both, then do that, if you actually think you'll wear both together. Otherwise, I'd pick one and do whatever changes you think will make you happy.


Thank you both! I’m just being indecisive as I have both with me. I could technically keep both but would then definitely have to go to ban island for a long time. I am still deciding if the larger one is “worth it” and I still have some time to decide. I appreciate everyone letting me process here!
 
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