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Help me choose between two WF ACA please?

peterpan112

peterpan112

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I posted a thread earlier about WF vs James Allen. After reading everybody's comments, I have narrowed my options down to two ACA stones on WF (hopefully I won't change my mind again lol). Below are the specs of my two options:

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The prices of the two stones are comparable. I know for this price range I could probably go for a bigger stone, but given my very small finger I am pretty happy with 1ct size. I thought I'd maximize color and clarity instead.

I have sent request to WF asking for side by side pics. While waiting for the reply, I thought I'd just ask what you guys think!

Any input will be greatly appreciated:)
 
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chamois said:
I personally would go with the one with the smaller table. Either will be great though!
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Thank you! do you mind telling me your reasoning? Also, I am not sure if 54.6% table is too small?
 
The specs here are just so pleasing~ Not to mention the D colour:)
 
It’s really personal preference to whether dig any deeper into proportions.

It’s often said that higher crown with smaller table yields diamonds with fiery appearance in slightly wider range of lightings. However these should only be part of the equation as other numbers like crown angle also plays a role…That said, we are already in an already tight parameter with 2 ACA on hand, we simply can’t go wrong with either.

I do however have some preference on the arrows! I like flatter arrows, which is what I see on the 1.08ct, again subtle difference~ I feel I am not able to offer any help at this stage^^
 
Double E said:
It’s really personal preference to whether dig any deeper into proportions.

It’s often said that higher crown with smaller table yields diamonds with fiery appearance in slightly wider range of lightings. However these should only be part of the equation as other numbers like crown angle also plays a role…That said, we are already in an already tight parameter with 2 ACA on hand, we simply can’t go wrong with either.

I do however have some preference on the arrows! I like flatter arrows, which is what I see on the 1.08ct, again subtle difference~ I feel I am not able to offer any help at this stage^^
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Thank you! This is really helpful! I realized that I am getting a bit obsessed with the numbers haha. There's just so much information out there, and I am a bit overwhelmed.

I prefer the 1.08 more as well!!! There's another F VS1 stone that is 1k cheaper (https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4419917.htm). Now I am questioning myself if it's actually worth it to get a D...
 
I prefer the 1.08's proportions due to the smaller table and higher crown height (just personal preference, and I don't think a 54.6% table is too small), but the differences between the stones may not be visible to the naked eye.

I love the F you posted, as well as this F which gets a 1.2 on the HCA (HCA isn't necessary on ACAs, but I remember you were checking them earlier).

Diamond | 1.104 ct F VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4419918

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.104 carat F color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4419918
www.whiteflash.com

But if a D is what your heart wants, then stick with the D.
 
peterpan112 said:
Thank you! This is really helpful! I realized that I am getting a bit obsessed with the numbers haha. There's just so much information out there, and I am a bit overwhelmed.

I prefer the 1.08 more as well!!! There's another F VS1 stone that is 1k cheaper (https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4419917.htm). Now I am questioning myself if it's actually worth it to get a D...
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Agreed if a D colour engagement stone is already in your mind, you may wish to simply grab it. Or Depends on whether and how you need that 1k on other areas like setting etc.
 
With such tight parameters, it's really hard to find a reason to like one stone more over the other. When prices are relatively the
same, I usually go with size in general (even if it's minimal). Sometimes one stone just "speaks" to me more than the other stone(s). Sometimes there is something the Sales Associate says that gets me thinking. It really helps to have the pictures of them side-by-side (ask them to throw in the F to see if you think you can tell the color difference). Please post the pics when you get them.
 
peterpan112 said:
Thank you! do you mind telling me your reasoning? Also, I am not sure if 54.6% table is too small?
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I personally prefer a small table with a higher crown visually. The table is not too small. I might also consider (if it were me) to go up in carat size and go down in either colour, or to an eye clean clarity stone.

Either stone will be lovely, its an ACA!
 
It's already been stated a few times, but I would also likely gravitate towards the one with the smaller table and slightly taller crown height, since I'm a sucker for fire (my wife would disagree, since she tends to gravitate towards blinding brilliance haha).

While gunning for a D color is a guarantee to eliminate any traces of subtle tint, keep in mind that you may find an F, G, even H perfectly fine when dealing with diamonds that have exceptional symmetry and as perfect light return as can be attained (such as with the ACA lineup)...it may be worthwhile to search in the very near-colorless grades (G-H) and have WF put one or two of them in a comparison video next to D-E-F ACAs so that you can gauge your own subjective level of color sensitivity and tolerance.

This one would be a great option for the side-by-side comparison video request:

Diamond | 1.351 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4206895

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.351 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4206895
www.whiteflash.com


 
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peterpan112 said:
Thanks @DejaWiz, @chamois, @tyty333, @Double E and @Kim N for your advice! I think I’ll request pics for F stones as well and make my final decision:)
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Keep in mind that, no matter which diamond you choose, WF gives you a lifetime of full original purchase price towards any upgrade, with no stipulations other than the diamond being upgraded to must be of equal or greater value than the one being upgraded...no minimum carat, clarity, color, or cut requirements.

If you decide on an F, G, or H today and find that you are fine with it during the test drive/return period but grow sensitive to even the slightest of tint in 1, 3 , 5, or even 20 years from now, then you can certainly opt for an exchange/upgrade to a diamond with a better color grade with the real potential of no to little out of pocket...or a bit more, should you also choose to increase the spread significantly.

Your purchase is protected with WF in ways most other vendors can't/won't match. :)
 
DejaWiz said:
Keep in mind that, no matter which diamond you choose, WF gives you a lifetime of full original purchase price towards any upgrade, with no stipulations other than the diamond being upgraded to must be of equal or greater value than the one being upgraded...no minimum carat, clarity, color, or cut requirements.

If you decide on an F, G, or H today and find that you are fine with it during the test drive/return period but grow sensitive to even the slightest of tint in 1, 3 , 5, or even 20 years from now, then you can certainly opt for an exchange/upgrade to a diamond with a better color grade with the real potential of no to little out of pocket...or a bit more, should you also choose to increase the spread significantly.

Your purchase is protected with WF in ways most other vendors can't/won't match. :)
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That's really good to know!!!! Thank you for this info:)

I used to own a pair of small diamond studs that is D color, I1 clarity (I purchased it back when I didn't even know what 4C is), and was so impressed by how white they were. Unfortunately I lost them at my dentist last year, and I just feel like the replacement pair (F/G) that I got afterwards are not as white, or maybe it's just in my head lol.

Anyways I'll wait for WF's pics and decide! Thanks again for the suggestion!
 
peterpan112 said:
That's really good to know!!!! Thank you for this info:)

I used to own a pair of small diamond studs that is D color, I1 clarity (I purchased it back when I didn't even know what 4C is), and was so impressed by how white they were. Unfortunately I lost them at my dentist last year, and I just feel like the replacement pair (F/G) that I got afterwards are not as white, or maybe it's just in my head lol.

Anyways I'll wait for WF's pics and decide! Thanks again for the suggestion!
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Seems that we are very similar in regards to color: mind's eye needs GIA strictness D grade, would be OK with E-F, gets nervous about G or lower grades. There's just...something...about seeing (let alone owning) a colorless diamond that feels a different kind of special that appeases me inside my brain, even though I know that I have a hard time discerning the differences between a properly graded D through H when scrutinizing in typical real-world viewing conditions.

The best that I can liken that to is those that will not sacrifice extreme clarity for the mind-clean factor.
 
DejaWiz said:
Seems that we are very similar in regards to color: mind's eye needs GIA strictness D grade, would be OK with E-F, gets nervous about G or lower grades. There's just...something...about seeing (let alone owning) a colorless diamond that feels a different kind of special that appeases me inside my brain, even though I know that I have a hard time discerning the differences between a properly graded D through H when scrutinizing in typical real-world viewing conditions.

The best that I can liken that to is those that will not sacrifice extreme clarity for the mind-clean factor.
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You’re reading my mind!
 
Forgot to mention, even around 0.9ct, approx 6.2mm stone will look pleasant and by no means small on your 3.5 sized finger as you expected. I am quite confident about that. It may look even larger than some not well cut 1 ct due to 1) its edge to edge sparkle or 2) diameter of those poorly cut stones is actually smaller, if that’s something you found in your social circle.

I witnessed this from my wife wearing a .92 on her 4.5 finger~
 
Double E said:
Forgot to mention, even around 0.9ct, approx 6.2mm stone will look pleasant and by no means small on your 3.5 sized finger as you expected. I am quite confident about that. It may look even larger than some not well cut 1 ct due to 1) its edge to edge sparkle or 2) diameter of those poorly cut stones is actually smaller, if that’s something you found in your social circle.

I witnessed this from my wife wearing a .92 on her 4.5 finger~
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Honestly anything look huge on my finger haha. I am pretty happy with the finger coverage of a 1ct stone:) That's why I choose to prioritize color over size.
 
An update: I have received a side by side comparison video from WF. Below are two screen shots I took: (color D F G from left to right)

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What do you guys think??? Thanks in advance!!
 
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peterpan112 said:
An update: I have received a side by side comparison video from WF. Below are two screen shots I took: (color D F G from left to right)

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What do you guys think??? Thanks in advance!!
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What do you think?

I can see a very slight hint of colour in the F and the G. If you want colourless then go with the D!
 
chamois said:
What do you think?

I can see a very slight hint of colour in the F and the G. If you want colourless then go with the D!
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Initially I thought I'd just go with the cheapest of the three if I can't tell any difference, but since the D is noticeably whiter, I think I'll probably just get it. The price difference between D and the other two is not huge.
 
peterpan112 said:
Initially I thought I'd just go with the cheapest of the three if I can't tell any difference, but since the D is noticeably whiter, I think I'll probably just get it. The price difference between D and the other two is not huge.
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Agreed:) wow a 1ct D~ how would you like to set??
 
That's a beautiful setting, and I love your diamond choice!

I also thought the D was clearly whiter, and strangely, on my monitor the F looked slightly more tinted than the G.
 
Congrats! Here is a thread of various PSers Valoria settings.

Show me your Valoria setting!

Here's the link to the setting: https://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/valoria-petite-six-prong-solitaire-engagement-ring-6158.htm#size=6.75 A lot of PSers have been interested in the is setting lately including myself so I thought I would consolidate some pictures. If you have...
www.pricescope.com
 
peterpan112 said:
This is the setting I am looking at: https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-six-prong-solitaire-engagement-ring-6156.htm

This setting seems to set the diamond a little bit lower than the popular Vatche U113 (also 6-prong solitaire), and has a thinner band, which I like!
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Beautiful selection!

If you weren't aware yet: By going with a Valoria, your setting is also eligible for their 50% setting value trade-in program, so you even have the option to change things up in the future if you ever decide to go with a different look/style.
 
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