Help Picking a Stone Please!

[mike0983]

Hi All!!! I've been working with a few jewelers in and out of state and have compiled the below list of stones to choose from. My question is...are there any glaring concerns with these stones that you think i should avoid...aka...keep looking? Idealing i'm looking for a 1.6 - 1.7 H VS2 but am happy to lower the carat size to meet the budget. just an FYI, i won't be able to see Stone #3 in person, so i'd be relying on the video of the stone which isn't encouraging to me.

Thank you for your help!!!
Below is my current rankings of the stones:
A) Diamond 1
B) Diamond 4
C) Diamond 2&5
D) Diamond 3: While i'm getting a good deal, i'm concerned about the heavy inclusions in the table as well as the cut (seems clunky lol)

Diamond 1: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...xcellent-cut-sku-15453525?a_aid=62a7e6735d587

Diamond 2: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...xcellent-cut-sku-15688739?a_aid=62a7e6735d587

Diamond 3: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...xcellent-cut-sku-14774701?a_aid=62a7e6735d587

Diamond 4: https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...ory+-+Auto+Upload+Ad&utm_source=StoneAlgo+Inc

Diamond 5: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...xcellent-cut-sku-16480180?a_aid=62a7e6735d587

Shape	Round Brilliant	Round Brilliant	Round Brilliant	Round Brilliant	Round Brilliant
Measurements	7.56 - 7.57 x 4.62 mm	7.57 - 7.61 x 4.75 mm	7.68 - 7.72 x 4.65 mm	7.59 - 7.64 x 4.74 mm	7.58 - 7.60 x 4.75 mm
Carat Weight	1.61 carat	1.70 carat	1.70 carat	1.71 carat	1.71 carat
Color Grade	H	H	G	H	H
Clarity Grade	VS2	VS2	VS2	VS2	VS2
Cut Grade	Excellent	Excellent	Excellent	Excellent	Excellent
Depth	61.10%	62.60%	60.40%	62.30%	62.60%
Table	56%	58%	58%	56%	57%
Crown Angle	33.0°	35.5°	34.0°	36.0°	36.5°
Crown Height	14.50%	15.00%	14.00%	16.00%	16.00%
Pavilion Angle	41.0°	41.0°	40.6°	40.6°	40.6°
Pavilion Depth	43.00%	43.50%	43.00%	43.00%	43.00%
Star Length	50%	50%	50%	50%	55%
Lower Half	75%	80%	80%	80%	75%
Girdle	M - ST, Faceted, 3.5%	ST, Faceted, 4.0%	M - ST, Faceted, 3.5%	Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%	M - ST, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet	None	None	None	None	None
HCA	0.7	3.9	0.7	1.7​	2.4
Stone Algo	8.1	8.3	9.2	9.3	8.9

 

[lovedogs]

I wouldn't recommend any of these, as none look well cut. What is your budget?

 

[Kim N]

I agree with lovedogs, I wouldn't recommend these.

What do you think of these alternatives?

1.60 Carat round diamond

This 1.6 carat round diamond H color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.60 Carat round diamond

This 1.6 carat round diamond H color vvs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.66 Carat round diamond

This 1.66 carat round diamond G color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.68 Carat round diamond

This 1.68 carat round diamond H color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

 

[lovedogs]

Assuming approx 15k for budget, I like these:

1.71 Carat round diamond

This 1.71 carat round diamond I color si1 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

1.62 Carat round diamond

This 1.62 carat round diamond G color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.75 Carat round diamond

This 1.75 carat round diamond I color vs1 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

 

[mike0983]

I wouldn't recommend any of these, as none look well cut. What is your budget?

Budget is $15k-$17k for a stone

 

[mike0983]

I agree with lovedogs, I wouldn't recommend these.

What do you think of these alternatives?

1.60 Carat round diamond

This 1.6 carat round diamond H color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.60 Carat round diamond

This 1.6 carat round diamond H color vvs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.66 Carat round diamond

This 1.66 carat round diamond G color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.68 Carat round diamond

This 1.68 carat round diamond H color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

Thank you so much for your feedback!! the 1.66 G looks stunning, what do you think of the inclusions in the table? Would that be an issue?

 

[mike0983]

Assuming approx 15k for budget, I like these:

1.71 Carat round diamond

This 1.71 carat round diamond I color si1 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

1.62 Carat round diamond

This 1.62 carat round diamond G color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.75 Carat round diamond

This 1.75 carat round diamond I color vs1 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

I really appreciate the reply. I didn't consider going down to an I color, but i'll see if the GF is open to it! the 1.75 is a stunner

 

[lovedogs]

Thank you so much for your feedback!! the 1.66 G looks stunning, what do you think of the inclusions in the table? Would that be an issue?

Not at all. The pics/videos online are huge compared to the stone size IRL.

 

[lovedogs]

I really appreciate the reply. I didn't consider going down to an I color, but i'll see if the GF is open to it! the 1.75 is a stunner

Yeah, I love that one! It would be my pick if I were you

 

[DejaWiz]

$15k...custom cut, human vetted, best upgrade program one can get...JA will require you to spend at least double the price of the diamond being upgraded.

Diamond | 1.744 ct I SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4462499

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.744 carat I color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4462499

www.whiteflash.com

 

[lovedogs]

If you're open to other vendors beyond JA, the options open up a bit more. whiteflash has super ideal stones within your budget that I think are worth considering.

Diamond | 1.744 ct I SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4462499

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.744 carat I color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4462499

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.555 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4511716

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.555 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4511716

www.whiteflash.com

 

[lovedogs]

$15k...custom cut, human vetted, best upgrade program one can get:

Diamond | 1.744 ct I SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4462499

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.744 carat I color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4462499

www.whiteflash.com

Hahahaha we posted the same stone at the same time. Love it

 

[DejaWiz]

Hahahaha we posted the same stone at the same time. Love it

Two great minds and all!

 

[mike0983]

If you're open to other vendors beyond JA, the options open up a bit more. whiteflash has super ideal stones within your budget that I think are worth considering.

Diamond | 1.744 ct I SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4462499

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.744 carat I color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4462499

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.555 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4511716

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.555 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4511716

www.whiteflash.com

I'm not opposed to WhiteFlash, just going through the motions of finding a diamond LOL

First i spoke with "family friends", who were a rip-off. I worked with a couple of the heavy posters on Reddit and were either not impressed with the offerings or the process and so now I'm back at looking online and working with a local jeweler.

Whiteflash is definitely a contender b/c they stand by their product with the upgrade policy and those are two gorgeous stones!

 

[mike0983]

$15k...custom cut, human vetted, best upgrade program one can get...JA will require you to spend at least double the price of the diamond being upgraded.

Diamond | 1.744 ct I SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4462499

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.744 carat I color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4462499

www.whiteflash.com

appreciate the post!! What's your thoughts of this stone being rated AGS since GIA has just bought out the competition. Kinda dissapointing b/c i like how AGs differentiated themselves on the cut :/

 

[mike0983]

Yeah, I love that one! It would be my pick if I were you

Now that I'm looking at "I" diamonds...i'm thinking of upping the budget for this beauty!!

2.01 Carat round diamond

This 2.01 carat round diamond I color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

 

[DejaWiz]

appreciate the post!! What's your thoughts of this stone being rated AGS since GIA has just bought out the competition. Kinda dissapointing b/c i like how AGs differentiated themselves on the cut :/

Still superior to most GIA 3X...and the light performance grading isn't being done away with by GIA, which is great for both sellers and buyers.

 

[mike0983]

Still superior to most GIA 3X...and the light performance grading isn't being done away with by GIA, which is great for both sellers and buyers.

ah...that's good to know i didn't realize the grading will still be done!

 

[Kim N]

Now that I'm looking at "I" diamonds...i'm thinking of upping the budget for this beauty!!

2.01 Carat round diamond

This 2.01 carat round diamond I color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

That diamond may have a small area of leakage under the table. How about this one?

2.01 Carat round diamond

This 2.01 carat round diamond I color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

 

[mike0983]

That diamond may have a small area of leakage under the table. How about this one?

2.01 Carat round diamond

This 2.01 carat round diamond I color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

How can you tell? I’d love to know so I can be in the lookout

 

[Kim N]

How can you tell? I’d love to know so I can be in the lookout

This area--an Ideal-Scope image could confirm.



I found some more stones you can take a look at.

1.83 Carat round diamond

This 1.83 carat round diamond I color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.80 Carat round diamond

This 1.8 carat round diamond I color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.80 Carat round diamond

This 1.8 carat round diamond I color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.90 Carat round diamond

This 1.9 carat round diamond I color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.83 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.83 carat H color vs1 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.81 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.81 carat I color vs2 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

 

[mike0983]

This area--an Ideal-Scope image could confirm.



I found some more stones you can take a look at.

1.83 Carat round diamond

This 1.83 carat round diamond I color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.80 Carat round diamond

This 1.8 carat round diamond I color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.80 Carat round diamond

This 1.8 carat round diamond I color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.90 Carat round diamond

This 1.9 carat round diamond I color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.83 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.83 carat H color vs1 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.81 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.81 carat I color vs2 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

This 1.8 looks like a stunner! Great recommendation!!

Do you think I need to worry about the feathers near the girdle??

1.80 Carat round diamond

This 1.8 carat round diamond I color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

 

[Kim N]

This 1.8 looks like a stunner! Great recommendation!!

Do you think I need to worry about the feathers near the girdle??

1.80 Carat round diamond

This 1.8 carat round diamond I color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

Likely not in a VS2. You could cover it with a prong.

 

[lulu_ma]

What about these? I believe that they qualify for the fantastic Whiteflash upgrade program, too.

Diamond | 1.716 ct I SI1 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 2671389

This fabulous 1.716 carat Round Ideal cut diamond has a clarity grade of SI1 and color grade of I.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 2671389

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.748 ct H SI1 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4511760

This fabulous 1.748 carat Round Ideal cut diamond has a clarity grade of SI1 and color grade of H.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 4511760

www.whiteflash.com

 

[DejaWiz]

What about these? I believe that they qualify for the fantastic Whiteflash upgrade program, too.

Diamond | 1.716 ct I SI1 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 2671389

This fabulous 1.716 carat Round Ideal cut diamond has a clarity grade of SI1 and color grade of I.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 2671389

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.748 ct H SI1 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4511760

This fabulous 1.748 carat Round Ideal cut diamond has a clarity grade of SI1 and color grade of H.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 4511760

www.whiteflash.com

^ this...100% this.

 

[DejaWiz]

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[lulu_ma]

What about these? I believe that they qualify for the fantastic Whiteflash upgrade program, too.

Diamond | 1.716 ct I SI1 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 2671389

This fabulous 1.716 carat Round Ideal cut diamond has a clarity grade of SI1 and color grade of I.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 2671389

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.748 ct H SI1 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4511760

This fabulous 1.748 carat Round Ideal cut diamond has a clarity grade of SI1 and color grade of H.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 4511760

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.744 ct I SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4462499

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.744 carat I color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4462499

www.whiteflash.com

I didn’t initially post this one bc of the white inclusions. Somehow the Expert Selection I color seems more “mind clean” to me and it also costs less.

 

[Kim N]

While I of course love Whiteflash, I just found these >2ct stones for under $18K. There are coupon codes for 1% off the diamond and 25% off the setting.

2.02 Carat Round Diamond GIA 2437007996 | Ritani

2.02 Carat Round Earth Diamond ID Cut I Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number GIA #2437007996

www.ritani.com

2.01 Carat Round Diamond GIA 1437719838 | Ritani

2.01 Carat Round Earth Diamond ID Cut I Color VS2 Clarity with diamond report number GIA #1437719838

www.ritani.com

2.01 Carat Round Diamond GIA 6455171965 | Ritani

2.01 Carat Round Earth Diamond ID Cut I Color VS2 Clarity with diamond report number GIA #6455171965

www.ritani.com

 

[mike0983]

Diamond | 1.744 ct I SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4462499

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.744 carat I color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4462499

www.whiteflash.com

I didn’t initially post this one bc of the white inclusions. Somehow the Expert Selection I color seems more “mind clean” to me and it also costs less.

Thanks for the reply I came across the same stone! I know it says eye-clean...but tough for me to wrap my head around that

 

[lulu_ma]

Thanks for the reply I came across the same stone! I know it says eye-clean...but tough for me to wrap my head around that

I really like this one more. And it looks like a high I color to me.

Diamond | 1.716 ct I SI1 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 2671389

This fabulous 1.716 carat Round Ideal cut diamond has a clarity grade of SI1 and color grade of I.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 2671389

www.whiteflash.com