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krispi

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First, let me clarify that I''m not interested in a discussion of the merits of anyone''s beliefs. But for those of you who are religious, I''m curious to know how or if those beliefs affect your decisions about who, or when, you date or marry.

A little background about myself: I''ve been dating BF for a little over 1.5 years. He''s 31, and I''m 29 currently. I went into this relationship hoping for someone that was long-term and who I could settle down with, so that''s always been in the back of my mind. My BF isn''t quite to that stage of his life yet - he''s still working on paying down his grad school debt and other financial goals. We had a very rocky patch around the 6 month mark but have been doing increasingly better ever since. We''ve been very open and honest with each other on where we each stand in this relationship: I want to be married eventually, it''s a non-negotiable for me, I want it to be him but if it''s not then I''ll have to move on; He''s not at a point where he''s ready to be married, he''s open to us marrying as a possibility but not certain yet, and he hopes he can come around before I''m tired of waiting (I haven''t set even an internal deadline yet - I''m still not sure how long I''m willing to wait, I just know it won''t be forever).

So, even though we laid all our cards on the table, sometimes I still get really frustrated and impatient with the situation. I''m the type of person who knows what I want and wants it now. I realize we haven''t been dating all THAT long and know that he has other things in his life right now that he needs to get taken care of. Still, there are times when I tend to wonder if I''m waiting all this time for nothing. It would be different if I knew that we would definitely end up together in the end, I''d gladly wait for him - it''s the uncertainty that gets to me. There''ve been a few times where the waiting and the uncertainty (and some of the other issues we''ve had in the past) have really gotten me down and I''ve considered calling it quits.

Every time I''ve felt that way, I''ve prayed long and hard about our relationship and have truly felt that I''m being led to stay. I feel like this is where I belong, at least for now. When I''ve prayed similar prayers in past relationships, I''ve gotten very clear answers that they weren''t right for me. This relationship has been very different - each time I get reassurance that I need to have patience. In some cases, it''s been those answers to my prayers that were keeping me going. I was wondering if anyone here had experienced anything similar. It can be kind of hard to explain to someone who doesn''t understand. I''m already getting pressure from friends and family (both mine AND his) about why we aren''t getting married yet. It''s hard to explain to some people why I feel I need to hang in there longer - I feel this is where I need to be, at least for the time being, and hopefully forever. Just wondering if anyone else could relate.
 
100%, for sure.

i was in a long term relationship with a really great guy that everyone loved, including me. but after being together for some time (2-3 years) and praying a lot about the future of the relationship i knew that it wasn''t where god wanted me, so i broke up with him. i reeeaaalllyy didn''t want to, i wanted it to work out so badly. nobody understood - not my family, not my friends, even my fiance thinks i was a jerk to break up with him.

but i didn''t have to justify it to them and you don''t have to justify it to anyone either - i can''t think of a better reason than believing that god wants you to be patient in the relationship for waiting to get married. i know it''s not something that everybody understands, but that''s okay. if you truly believe that god is telling you to have patience, have it and wait it out because you know that it is ultimately going to be soooo worth it.


just make sure that he''s praying about it too
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100%

For forum policy reasons, I won''t go into depth. But, I believe in prayer and God''s Word and will abide by it as much as I can.
 
My religious beliefs have never, nor will they ever, affect my relationship decisions and here''s why.

In your situation, you love this guy and have made the decision that he''s the one for you to marry. For that reason, you can''t ever be sure that your prayers are leading you to stay with him. You''ve already made up your mind and therefore it would be logical that your spiritual self is agreeing. Had you said that logically you think he''s not the one for you, you don''t see yourself marrying him, but every time you pray, it gets clearer that he is...then that''s different.

However, as the saying goes "believe in something or you''ll fall for anything"

I''ve never met a person whose life was miserable because they believed in a force beyond this world.
 
Quite a bit - when DH and I met, he was not religious and I was (and in many ways still am) struggling to continue to embrace my religion and spirituality. The big turning point came when DH said that, under no circumstances, did he want a religious wedding (we were not engaged at this point, but quite serious). That was really the first time when we had to face our religious differences, and I realized that this was when I needed to figure out if religion was a deal-breaker for me or not. We discussed a lot, I prayed a lot, and decided on some common ground when it came to religion and our relationship. If prayer is part of your belief system, I don't think it's strange to pray about the important aspects of your life. Over the next three years, things changed quite a bit for us, and while he is still not a full member of my religion, spirituality plays a big (and intimate) part in our relationship together.
 
Date: 7/8/2008 4:47:55 PM
Author: fieryred33143
My religious beliefs have never, nor will they ever, affect my relationship decisions and here''s why.

In your situation, you love this guy and have made the decision that he''s the one for you to marry. For that reason, you can''t ever be sure that your prayers are leading you to stay with him. You''ve already made up your mind and therefore it would be logical that your spiritual self is agreeing. Had you said that logically you think he''s not the one for you, you don''t see yourself marrying him, but every time you pray, it gets clearer that he is...then that''s different.

i actually agree with this to an extent, but it''s not always true. sure it''s possible that if you are resolute enough about something than god is ''bound to agree'' out of sheer psychology. but if you play close enough attention, it can be very clear what is *you* telling yourself something and what god is trying to tell you. i guess i''m just saying that i know what you''re saying, but it''s not true 100% of the time.
 
Date: 7/8/2008 5:03:00 PM
Author: mimzy


i actually agree with this to an extent, but it''s not always true. sure it''s possible that if you are resolute enough about something than god is ''bound to agree'' out of sheer psychology. but if you play close enough attention, it can be very clear what is *you* telling yourself something and what god is trying to tell you. i guess i''m just saying that i know what you''re saying, but it''s not true 100% of the time.
As everything else with life, nothing is true 100% of the time
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Personally I am not religious though I respect that others believe in the power of prayer and following a path they believe is guided by a higher power.

Just make sure that while you are praying and receiving this guidance that you are following ALL of Gods laws to the best of your ability. It would be hypocritical to say God told you to stay, if you were for example having unmarried relations. Right? Probably why I''m not religious. I don''t think you get to have it both ways.
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I agree with Mimzy, you don''t owe anyone an explanation. If your reasons for staying are enough for you and the two of you are happy than others should back off.

I also think you are lucky to have an such an honest relationship that you can set your differences on the table and work through them.
 
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences, Mimzy and El! It helps to know there are others out there who have delt with similar issues.

In my case, I have no doubt that God was telling me to wait. I can''t quite explain it, but I''m certain He was telling me to be patient and give it more time. I guess when my friends and family bring it up, it heightens my own insecurities and doubts about myself and the relationship, and I worry sometimes that my answer has changed since then or that I somehow misinterpreted what I was told (even though I''m positive I know what I heard). I guess since it''s something I really, really want, plus I''m struggling with turning 30 in a few months, hearing it from others just makes it worse. I don''t know about the rest of you, but sometimes I go through silent times, when I''m asking for answers/guidance and not yet getting them, and that makes me feel particularly frustrated/worried/confused. I think the combination of all that led me to post this.

Mimzy, excellent point about him praying too! He does pray pretty often, but I think his technique is very different from mine. Rather than asking for a direct answer or sign, he will ask for wisdom to make good choices. Perhaps I have something to learn from him there...

And Izzy, you are right - I am lucky to have him. I know that, but it doesn''t hurt to remind myself every now and then. He''s really a great guy.
 
Date: 7/8/2008 4:47:55 PM
Author: fieryred33143
My religious beliefs have never, nor will they ever, affect my relationship decisions and here's why.

In your situation, you love this guy and have made the decision that he's the one for you to marry. For that reason, you can't ever be sure that your prayers are leading you to stay with him. You've already made up your mind and therefore it would be logical that your spiritual self is agreeing. Had you said that logically you think he's not the one for you, you don't see yourself marrying him, but every time you pray, it gets clearer that he is...then that's different.

However, as the saying goes 'believe in something or you'll fall for anything'

I've never met a person whose life was miserable because they believed in a force beyond this world.
Fiery, I'm not sure I totally agree with you either. I do realize that it is possible to want something so badly that you convince yourself it's meant to be. I wonder sometimes if I did that with my first marriage. Since then, however, I do believe I've grown and am more able to discern what is my own desire and what is an answer to prayer (not saying I'm perfect, though). In past relationships, I've desperately wanted them to succeed but have accepted that I was supposed to move on because I felt that was my answer. Currently, I do really love my BF and want to marry him, but sometimes I get so impatient that I want to set a deadline for myself and if he doesn't come around by that time, I can move on. (I think a lot of that is because I'm turning 30 soon and don't want to be single anymore.) But right now, I don't feel I'm being led in that direction - that instead I need to stick it out a while longer. It could be just an exercise in patience for me, or it could be forever - I guess I'll just have to wait and see (even though my impatient self really wants to know why!!!)

By the way, I absolutely agree that it's good to stand for something, and also to know what that something is!
 
Date: 7/8/2008 6:00:07 PM
Author: purrfectpear
Personally I am not religious though I respect that others believe in the power of prayer and following a path they believe is guided by a higher power.


Just make sure that while you are praying and receiving this guidance that you are following ALL of Gods laws to the best of your ability. It would be hypocritical to say God told you to stay, if you were for example having unmarried relations. Right? Probably why I''m not religious. I don''t think you get to have it both ways.
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What are you trying to say here Purrfect? I agree that it probably works best with God if you are as close to his law as possible...and the natural spiritual tendency *is* to stay at all costs with a man with whom you are having *ahem* relations. This can lead to real costs for girls who have managed to hook up with unsuitable men!
To develop your spirit to the maximum level is a personal thing, and I think that, if a girl is already having a relationship, it is probably best not to ''judge'', as much as it is to support her in making the choices that are best for her long-term happiness.
Our culture can make it a lonely, difficult journey for a girl who chooses to stick totally to her principles. Which is really a reflection of our society as a whole.
Studies tend to suggest almost all people''s moral sense is mostly about fitting in to their social/cultural group.
 
Sorry Krispi! backing away from the theory, and to your original topic
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I reckon you should be careful to use your heart AND your HEAD.
I personally feel that biology plays an important role in the ''urge to nest'' - hey, that''s how all the others species have babies - and I reckon it plays a role with us too. (I had very bad ''baby hunger'' at one stage...)
So, be sure that your spiritual yearnings are actually connected to the more mundane reality facing you...is he a decent person???
I personally spent some years *spending time* a man that,although he loved me, was hopeless out of his depth and was desperately unsuitable for me...
The whole time, I fully felt that God wanted us to be together, and that I just had to be good person... I think it was my hormones talking!
As you can imagine, the end result was a terrible epiphany.
I kind of feel that in the end, God rescued me!
Now I''m terrifyingly happy, with two beautiful children and hoping for more!!!
But, recovery from a bad relationship is a long process that only time and a lot of love can really heal. So be careful with yourself.
 
Hey krispi!
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I found my way back to God about two years ago and finally accepted Jesus Christ as my saviour not even a year ago. FI was a HUGE part of this process, but although he has a solid faith, he is not observant of some things, but I felt that God was calling me to be, so some things in our relationship changed. I''m not even talking about sexuality here, but daily prayer and the study of the Word, etc. I understand what you mean about being called, and I understand that you can differenciate between what you wish God would tell you and what He really does tell you. So I guess my answer would be yes, my faith plays a huge role in my relationship, and I believe that to be a good thing.

If God is calling you to be patient, there is a good reason for it. There''s something for you to learn in everything. I think it''s great that your BF prays too! That''s very important in a relationship.
 
Date: 7/8/2008 6:00:07 PM
Author: purrfectpear
Personally I am not religious though I respect that others believe in the power of prayer and following a path they believe is guided by a higher power.


Just make sure that while you are praying and receiving this guidance that you are following ALL of Gods laws to the best of your ability. It would be hypocritical to say God told you to stay, if you were for example having unmarried relations. Right? Probably why I''m not religious. I don''t think you get to have it both ways.
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I think that someone can believe that there is a higher spirit/power that can give them guidance, but not necessarily believe that unmarried relations (or a lot of other things that are sometimes considered wrong in some religions) are bad. You can''t really say it is hypocritical unless you know what Krispi''s specific beliefs are.

I consider myself agnostic, although there have been a few times in my life that I have prayed, thinking what''s the harm? All of the men I have dated have either been agnostic or atheist. I don''t think this was a conscious decision, but I do think that there would be some serious issues to deal with were I to be in a relationship with a devoutly religious person, as I think it may be too deep and personal of an issue to compromise on in a marriage, especially with children. Perhaps if I didn''t want children, I wouldn''t consider it a dealbreaker though.
 
It is 100% the reason why we met, why I waited, and why he is the right guy.

We were both looking for the wrong person. And had years of experience in that endeavor. When we decided to put the issue in Someone Elses''s hands, He brought us together. He helped us heal each other, and kept us from getting too involved, too fast, so that we would be ready for each other at the same time.

It was not until I stopped trying to find someone, and asked for intervention, did the right person enter my life. Same for the hubby.
 
Lara, Holly, and Anchor, thanks so much for sharing your experiences! I''ve had a stressful last couple of weeks, and it does help to hear what has happened to other people. Like I said, I''m certain of the answer I heard before, but now I''m wondering if that answer is changing. I''m trying to listen the best I can and be open to whatever the right thing for me is, but I''m not really certain yet.
 
religion was and is a huge part of my relationship with B. i was very clear with him when i met him what my expectations were for a relationship (no sex, no living together, going to church weekly, etc.) and let him know that if he didn''t agree with me that was fine, but that we could not be in a romantic relationship together. i''ve always been upfront with men about my beliefs and how they play out in my life. happily B not only handled what i believed, he totally agreed with me :)
 
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