crimson156
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- Jan 18, 2004
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On 1/19/2004 2:24:52 AM Cut Nut wrote:
In diffused indirect daylight diamonds with strong fluoro look stunning.
I prefer fluoro diamonds and the fact they are less costly is one of the wierdest glitches in life----------------
The "fluorescence is always bad" theory is a myth that has been completely debunked, but many in the industry still believe it. In rare cases, very strong fluorescene will cause a milky appearance, but it's far more common for medium-strong fluorescence to make a yellowish diamond look whiter. I have a channel-set ring with six little diamonds, one of which has strong yellow fluorescence, and I cannot tell the difference between that one and the other five except under a UV lamp.----------------
On 1/18/2004 11:50:50 PM crimson156 wrote:
i read on a site that strong fluorescence makes a clear colored diamond look cloudy in sunlight
this true?
if a diamond has strong Fluorescence and a g color should one not buy it based on the above?
thanks for any info
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On 1/19/2004 2:24:52 AM Cut Nut wrote:
I prefer fluoro diamonds and the fact they are less costly is one of the wierdest glitches in life----------------
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On 1/19/2004 7:31:52 PM fire&ice wrote:
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On 1/20/2004 1:14:08 AM Cut Nut wrote:
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On 1/19/2004 7:31:52 PM fire&ice wrote:
Garry, a looker, athlete & now scholar----------------
wanna be teachers pet F&I ?----------------
This is incorrect statement unless stone has extremely strong fluorescence. See GIA article cited above.----------------
... if the stone does not have inclusions visible to the eye, and has good color, fluor. will make the stone look oily and dark (more blue than white flashes). ...
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On 1/20/2004 10:33:16 AM highendgems wrote:
i would say a well cut diamond with properly graded H color or above should have an absense of fluoresence. this is proven as you will almost never see top of the line, well cut diamonds of a good make with fluor. what SLIGHT OR MODERATE fluor. can do is take an I or below colored stone look a bit whiter. if the stone does not have inclusions visible to the eye, and has good color, fluor. will make the stone look oily and dark (more blue than white flashes).
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I wholeheartedly disagree with this. Several of the experts have noted that stones with medium or faint fluorescence are completely no problem. Further, they've all noted that an overwhelming majority of stones with strong blue fluorescent aren't a problem either.....it's just important to be mindful when considering a strong blue fluor stone to check for milky/oily.
Outside of that, blue fluor doesn't detract AT ALL from diamonds----whether they are I, H, G, or even D color. Yes, high-color stones with fluorescence are usually discounted a bit----not because they are less desirable looking, but simply because they do have fluor.
What else is new? He's not horribly concerned with accuracy, you know.----------------
On 1/20/2004 10:40:40 AM leonid wrote:
This is incorrect statement unless stone has extremely strong fluorescence. ----------------
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On 1/20/2004 10:33:16 AM highendgems wrote:
i would say a well cut diamond with properly graded H color or above should have an absense of fluoresence. this is proven as you will almost never see top of the line, well cut diamonds of a good make with fluor. what SLIGHT OR MODERATE fluor. can do is take an I or below colored stone look a bit whiter. if the stone does not have inclusions visible to the eye, and has good color, fluor. will make the stone look oily and dark (more blue than white flashes). it seems alot of people say fluor. is not that bad--i just do not agree. whatever you do, stay away from yellow fluor.
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On 1/20/2004 11:35:21 AM highendgems wrote:
my credientials are that i am a GIA gemologist, worked for EGL Israel and I am oen of the largest importers of gemstones in the US.
say what you want to satify your own beliefs, but there is a REASON why the market discount stones w/ fluor. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.----------------
In other news, I have several pre-owned suspension bridges for sale. Prime locations off mid-town Manhattan and downtown San Francisco. First come, first served!----------------
On 1/20/2004 11:35:21 AM highendgems wrote:
my credientials are that i am a GIA gemologist, worked for EGL Israel and I am oen of the largest importers of gemstones in the US.
say what you want to satify your own beliefs, but there is a REASON why the market discount stones w/ fluor. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
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On 1/20/2004 12:46:02 PM LawGem wrote:
In other news, I have several pre-owned suspension bridges for sale. Prime locations off mid-town Manhattan and downtown San Francisco. First come, first served! ----------------
Any economist will tell you that markets are not always rational. Myths and superstitions can affect demand and prices even when they have been repeatedly debunked. The diamond business has a tremendous amount of tradition and inertia--people doing things simply because they've always done them that way--so it's not surprising that this price structure persists despite a lack of evidence to support it.----------------
On 1/20/2004 1:01:46 PM valeria101 wrote:
This is a rather theoretical Q, I know, but if you find one min....
There is something I do not understand: usually any differentiating characteristic that does not blatantly detract from a diamond's apperarence produces a price increase, not a discount for those stones. Why are fluorescent diamonds on average cheaper? I understand why strong or stronger flourescence produces a discount, but why is this nasty gossip about oily diamonds useful to anyone? After all, given that 1/3 of diamonds sold show some fluo, it does no stryke me as a practical thing to drive customers away from them. Well, I could be wrong. Ideas?
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On 1/20/2004 1:16:37 PM LawGem wrote:
[...] it's not surprising that this price structure persists despite a lack of evidence to support it.
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On 1/20/2004 11:35:21 AM highendgems wrote:
my credientials are that i am a GIA gemologist, worked for EGL Israel and I am oen of the largest importers of gemstones in the US.
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I'm sorry......I don't believe this AT ALL. I'm a regular consumer, and I've found most of the information you've provided to be riddled with error and factually incorrect inforamtion.
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On 1/20/2004 3:13:41 PM diamondsR4ever wrote:
huh? there could be someone else in our network registered--we have over 150 employees at SRI. this is my first day posting.
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REALLY? So let me see if I understand this correctly? You're saying that we should believe that there are TWO wingnuts that both work at the same company and BOTH argue against fluorescence?
HEG, I'm sure you do have accreditation.......as a full-time liar.
There is NO record of any S.R.I. USA in the country. If it had 150 people, there would be a record of it SOMEWHERE.
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On 1/20/2004 3:17:02 PM aljdewey wrote:
There is NO record of any S.R.I. USA in the country. If it had 150 people, there would be a record of it SOMEWHERE.
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