Indented Natural inclusion on the corners of Princess Cut

[jatt247]

GIA certificate indicates that there are indented naturals on this diamond that i might be purchasing. i contacted bluenile and they said it is not pressure sensitive. however, i am still worried and confused if there would be any issue since 'indented naturals' are at the corners of this princess cut diamond.

Girdle is = Thin to Thick

Please look at the diamond diagram where it is plotted. (only shows on the bottom diagram)

i'd really appreciate an expert advice on this. thanks.

 

[TitanCi]

Re: Indented Natural inclusion on the corners of Princess Cu

I don't think it should be a problem, but then again I'm not an expert. If the cutter was going to try to get rid of the indent, then maybe the thin part of the girdle may be extremely thin (assuming the thin area is where the indented naturals are). I think it was polished out enough, and as close, to the natural as possible. Usually IIRC, thin girdles are OK, but medium is preferred in princesses?? But thin to thick is a wide variation I would assume...

Let's see what an expert says...I'd probably be worried like you are too, TBH.

 

[Christina...]

Re: Indented Natural inclusion on the corners of Princess Cu

Indented naturals generally aren't an issue that I'm aware of. It just means that the cutter maximized the rough he was working with. Depending on how your setting stone, the stones corners will be covered and protected by it's prongs anyway adding extra protection.

 

[jatt247]

Re: Indented Natural inclusion on the corners of Princess Cu

thanks... so is it ok for me to go ahead with this purchase?


diamond specs are as follow:

Carat Weight: 0.91
Color Grade: H
Clarity: VS1
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Very Good

Table: 72%
Depth: 76%
Girdle: Thin - Thick


also what do u guys think about the size?

 

[Karl_K]

Re: Indented Natural inclusion on the corners of Princess Cu

The corners are the weakest point so I would say no way.
The biggest chance of breakage will be in setting it but it will always be an issue.

 

[John P]

Re: Indented Natural inclusion on the corners of Princess Cu

INs at the corners too?

If this is the diamond from the thread below the cutter is magic. He took a piece of rough suitable for an impeccable 0.75ct and pulled a 0.91ct rabbit out of his hat.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/thin-to-thick-girdle-and-diamond-size.175664/

 

[jatt247]

Re: Indented Natural inclusion on the corners of Princess Cu

YES thats the same diamond John... so does it look like a good cut?

or the cutter was just too good to make the diamond weigh more than it would've been? lol


and yes thanks for your help, you are helping me a lot.

 

[John P]

Re: Indented Natural inclusion on the corners of Princess Cu

YES thats the same diamond John... so does it look like a good cut?

or the cutter was just too good to make the diamond weigh more than it would've been? lol

and yes thanks for your help, you are helping me a lot.

Always glad to help.

What I am saying is that this diamond could have been fashioned into a well-cut 0.75ct with appropriate side-to-side spread for its weight (I was originally thinking up to 0.80 but the INs change that).

What the cutter did here was to girdle it right-up-to (arguably beyond) maximum spread for the rough and then hid weight in the depth of the cut. The result is that it finished as a 0.91ct stone. But the extra weight does not add visible size, only cost. If a wearer were to compare it side by side with other well-cut 0.90ct diamonds this one will appear notably smaller - about the size of a well-cut 0.75ct.

If you were to pay the price of a 0.75ct H VS2 for this diamond then it may not be an issue. In that case my hesitation, as a cut-specialist, would simply be that - with weight-retention being such an obvious cutting priority for this stone - I must wonder if maximizing angles conducive to good light return and performance was of any consideration.

 

[jatt247]

Re: Indented Natural inclusion on the corners of Princess Cu

wow John... you have explained it really well. I am now thinking of NOT buying this stone


gotta increase my budget and get a better stone i guess