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Indented natural vs1 problematic inclusions?

SabineH

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I am upgrading my 1.14 blue Nile stone and I came upon this stone. I really like all the specs but the grading seems mostly based on the indented naturals and I am not sure it will be a problem. Below is the Gia number. I really like the j medium Fluor combo, as I have it in my current stone.


2225617489
 
Please post a pic of the certificate and link to the stone (put on hold first)
 
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What is the carat weight of this diamond?
 
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I'm very picky, but that indented natural would not prevent me from buying the diamond if everything else was groovy.
But it's not groovy.

It's too deep for me.
The light performance is not as good as it could be.
Too much light will leak out the sides and bottom instead of being directed to reflect back out the top to your eyes.

Others here would be glad to dive into what specific combinations of which specific measurements and angles would have better light performance.

Unfortunately, while GIA is one of the most reputable gem labs, their cut graded of Excellent is not as excellent as it should be. This makes higher profits for vendors and GIA. Very dissapointing. :nono:

I'd keep shopping.

Also there's another vendor with better policies than Blue nile, Whitflash.
Also WF sells a line of diamonds called ACA, A Cut Above, that all have the ideal combination of parameters that deliver top light performance.

I like the ease of having only to decide on weight, clarity, and color for my budget.
 
Thank you for your
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I'm very picky, but that indented natural would not prevent me from buying the diamond if everything else was groovy.
But it's not groovy.

It's too deep for me.
The light performance is not as good as it could be.
Too much light will leak out the sides and bottom instead of being directed to reflect back out the top to your eyes.

Others here would be glad to dive into what specific combinations of which specific measurements and angles would have better light performance.

Unfortunately, while GIA is one of the most reputable gem labs, their cut graded of Excellent is not as excellent as it should be. This makes higher profits for vendors and GIA. Very dissapointing. :nono:

I'd keep shopping.

Also there's another vendor with better policies than Blue nile, Whitflash.
Also WF sells a line of diamonds called ACA, A Cut Above, that all have the ideal combination of parameters that deliver top light performance.

I like the ease of having only to decide on weight, clarity, and color for my budget.

Thank you for your thorough reply Kenny!

Unfortunately I am stuck with blue Nile for upgrading. Blue Nile was easy 11 years ago because it included taxes for me in the Netherlands. They don’t do that for you anymore.

I just looked at the foto’s and weeded some
Out with the HCA, should I never go for a 62 percentage deapth?
 
It is much smarter to find a round with an HCA under 2 than focus a rule onto one single parameter, because the multiple parameters interact.
So, one number may be good or bad, depending on the other parameters.
The HCA does the math for the combination of parameters you enter.
That's what makes the HCA a brilliant invention. :clap:

Still, 62.7% is quite deep.
Besides light performance concerns, a deep diamond is said to be "hiding" carat weight in its depth.
That means it will face up small for its weight, compared to a round that's not so deep.
A very shallow round will face up large for its weight, but when too shallow it will also suffer from poor light performance.
 
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It is much smarter to find a round with an HCA under 2 than focus a rule onto one single parameter, because the multiple parameters interact.
So, one number may be good or bad, depending on the other parameters.
The HCA does the math for the combination of parameters you enter.
That's what makes the HCA a brilliant invention. :clap:

Still, 62.7% is quite deep.
Besides light performance concerns, a deep diamond is said to be "hiding" carat weight in its depth.
That means it will face up small for its weight, compared to a round that's not so deep.
A very shallow round will face up large for its weight, but when too shallow it will also suffer from poor light performance.

It came as an HCA 1.8 so it seemed good. Only noted that it faces a little smaller.
 
It came as an HCA 1.8 so it seemed good. Only noted that it faces a little smaller.

What is your budget? We might be able to help find an alternative at BN
 
What is your budget? We might be able to help find an alternative at BN

Thanks! I have this on hold now. I wanted to keep in under €13.000 since taxes are also steep at 21%

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I don't love the leakage/obstruction I see at 6 o clock. But it's certainly not a bad stone. Options I prefer at BN that are the same price or less than the one you have on hold:


 
Thank you
 
I don't love the leakage/obstruction I see at 6 o clock. But it's certainly not a bad stone. Options I prefer at BN that are the same price or less than the one you have on hold:



Any tips for an 1.5 carat stone with the same specs? I decided on a three stone setting so I need to make some room
In the budget for the side stones. TIA
 
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