Is it pronounced pear i dot, or pear i dough?

[kenny]

And I assume the "i" is pronounced as it is in the word, lift.

 

[DAF]

And I assume the "i" is pronounced as it is in the word, lift.

I've always pronounced it as the latter.

 

[Burmesedaze]

Perry-dot for me.

 

[junebug17]

I’ve always thought it was peri - dough. Never heard anyone say peri- dot.

 

[digdeep]

pair-ah-dough --- phonetically same as Kenny, DAF and junebug17

 

[Austina]

It’s pronounced peri-dough here in the UK too.

 

[kenny]

pair-ah-dough --- phonetically same as Kenny, DAF and junebug17

Is that "a" in the middle pronounced as it is in apple, in take, or in uh?

 

[digdeep]

not apple or take, but ah or uh --

 

[stracci2000]

Is that "a" in the middle pronounced as it is in apple, in take, or in uh?

Kenny, you're killin' me here.
It's Pehr-ahhhhh-dowe with a silent "g"

 

[stracci2000]

Etymology[edit]
The origin of the name peridot is uncertain. The Oxford English Dictionary suggests an alteration of Anglo–Norman pedoretés (classical Latin pæderot-), a kind of opal, rather than the Arabic word faridat, meaning "gem".

The Middle English Dictionary's entry on peridot includes several variations : peridod, peritot, pelidod and pilidod – other variants substitute y for the is seen here.[1]

The earliest use in England is in the register of the St Albans Abbey, in Latin, and its translation in 1705 is possibly the first use of "peridot" in English. It records that on his death in 1245, Bishop John bequeathed various items including peridot to the Abbey.[2]

 

[kenny]

Kenny, you're killin' me here.
It's Pehr-ahhhhh-dowe with a silent "g"

Sorry, I didn't mean to kill you.
I don't know the proper way to say/write/express pronunciations phonetically.
(Did I even say that correctly?)

I learned back in the 60s, but they've changed it and I have a mental block against learning the new system.
Even if I learned, perhaps some other old farts are not fluent in it.

Using familiar words is cumbersome, but a bullet-proof way of communicating pronunciation.

 

[Burmesedaze]

Lol I used google and this came up

 

[kenny]

Thanks ... I watched that ... wondering about the authority of the maker of the video ... not exactly Webster or Oxford.

After watching that one (which demonstrated only one pronunciation) this video automatically played demonstrating two pronunciations.

Such is the bold new world of online information.
No editors.
Everyone's an expert.

I'll look into whether GIA or AGL has a pronunciation guide for gems.

 

[kenny]

https://www.gia.edu/peridot-history-lore

ETA: The link does not go directly to the video. GRRR!
I had to click around to find it.
What a bother.

I did not find a pronunciation guide on GIA's site but did find the above video there.
I suppose GIA hosting/making this video supports the pronunciation used in the video.

They pronounced it, Per i dough, with the i pronounced like the i in list.

Barring the discovery of a more authoritative source I'll stop saying 'dot'.

 

[doberman]

Perry-dot sounds ridiculous. I always assumed it was a French name and thus pronounced as perry-dough.

 

[junebug17]

I just looked it up on Webster’s dictionary, both pronunciations are given so both are correct! I stand corrected

 

[kenny]

Maybe it's one of those, when I'm in France I'll use the French pronunciation things.

Or, maybe it's now one of these things.

 

[minousbijoux]

Sorry, I didn't mean to kill you.
I don't know the proper way to say/write/express pronunciations phonetically.
(Did I even say that correctly?)

I learned back in the 60s, but they've changed it and I have a mental block against learning the new system.
Even if I learned, perhaps some other old farts are not fluent in it.

Using familiar words is cumbersome, but a bullet-proof way of communicating pronunciation.

That would be me

 

[valeria101]

Listen to Google, if you will - WWW

I do thr '-t' ... that is how it is done in my language

 

[Niel]

I do not pronounce the T and that’s how I’ve ever heard anyone pronounce it aloud.

 

[Burmesedaze]

Maybe it's one of those, when I'm in France I'll use the French pronunciation things.

Or, maybe it's now one of these things.

Quite likely. No one would understand the dough version in Mogok and probably dot in the West

Always happy to learn new stuff on PS and beyond!

 

[Seaglow]

In my GIA Colored Stones course, there is a pronunciation guide for some words. GIA teaches the pronounciation as peri ”dough”.

 

[mellowyellowgirl]

A month ago I told someone on the shippers forum I frequent that red corundum was Ruby and the others colours of corundum were called sapphire. It blew their minds that rubies and sapphires were essentially the same "stuff."

They had just gotten past sapphires not being all blue only to have this dropped on them.

 

[PintoBean]

You should see what people say in the accents thread lololol

 

[JmeeMrie]

I've always pronounced it as the latter.

Me too and it's my birthstone

 

[KaeKae]

Pehr-i-dough.

 

[missy]

(Old thread alert)
Enough with the pronunciation. Remember:

Oh and for the record (around these parts) it is pronounced Peridoe aka peridough.

 

[Tourmaline]

This is an interesting thread, because people here are knowledgeable about jewelry. I was all set to talk about how I had researched it years ago and had seen that Pehr-ih-dott was how to pronounce it (that's how I've always pronounced it, and the research I did at the time supported that version, go figure). I am astounded, actually, to learn here that GIA stands by the "dough" pronunciation, because I have a strong aversion to the dough version! I once had a heated argument about this with a salesgirl in a jewelry store and I totally thought I was right. My takeaway from this is that I am just going to accept that my version is wrong, and continue to use it anyway, because I want to throw up every time I hear the dough version. Sigh.

 

[cmd2014]

I've only ever heard it pronounced Per-i-dough because in these parts, we assume anything spelled with an ot ending is French in origin, and the French pronunciation of "ot" at the end of a word is generally "oh". Like Merlot, peugeot, and haricot, rhyming with chateau and apropos. And definitely a short i (as in lift) in the middle, not an "ah". Again, the French thing....

 

[daneshpastry]

This sounds like the old "tarot" debate.

FWIW, I always thought it was peri-doT, and then heard someone say peri-dough, so I've been using that instead.