Is this a good deal?
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Mara
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well it would be a huge stone, but far from well-cut.
the table is too big at 66%...probably way too big and the depth too shallow. i wouldn't be surprised if it was a fish-eye stone. there is a fine balance in a shallow stone like that and while some stones can be pretty with larger table, shallower depths (mine is one of them with table at 61.4 and depth at 56.9)...the higher the table and lower the depth means the stone is EXTREMELY shallow. not to mention the girdle on this stone may be very thin and prone to chippage.
anyhow...the 'deal' may be there...a stone that large set into a ready-set ring, but what are you looking for? just a huge honking stone? or do you want something that is well-cut which will return more light, sparkle, fire, everything to your eye.
lastly an SI2 in a 4c stone will most likely have eye-visible inclusions. have you seen the stone? do you see a darkish ring in the middle? see any inclusions with your eye?
personally i would pass on this unless your only desire is to have a huge stone. and even if that is the case, $37k is a HUGE sum of money and you can put it to better work elsewhere. For example, a girl on here recently got a 3c I SI stone that was eye-clean and hearts and arrows ideal cut for something like $22k. so for your $37k...you could probably get close to a 4c I SI1 or similar with a great cut. smaller in size...but the visual impact may be much more significant than a very white brilliant, glassy monster 4.6c.
my two cents...from one gal who has a shallow cut stone...to one considering one.
i'd pass on this stone and see what your money will get you elsewhere. good luck!
the table is too big at 66%...probably way too big and the depth too shallow. i wouldn't be surprised if it was a fish-eye stone. there is a fine balance in a shallow stone like that and while some stones can be pretty with larger table, shallower depths (mine is one of them with table at 61.4 and depth at 56.9)...the higher the table and lower the depth means the stone is EXTREMELY shallow. not to mention the girdle on this stone may be very thin and prone to chippage.
anyhow...the 'deal' may be there...a stone that large set into a ready-set ring, but what are you looking for? just a huge honking stone? or do you want something that is well-cut which will return more light, sparkle, fire, everything to your eye.
lastly an SI2 in a 4c stone will most likely have eye-visible inclusions. have you seen the stone? do you see a darkish ring in the middle? see any inclusions with your eye?
personally i would pass on this unless your only desire is to have a huge stone. and even if that is the case, $37k is a HUGE sum of money and you can put it to better work elsewhere. For example, a girl on here recently got a 3c I SI stone that was eye-clean and hearts and arrows ideal cut for something like $22k. so for your $37k...you could probably get close to a 4c I SI1 or similar with a great cut. smaller in size...but the visual impact may be much more significant than a very white brilliant, glassy monster 4.6c.
my two cents...from one gal who has a shallow cut stone...to one considering one.
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If the goal is to get a gram of diamond on the finger, regardless of what it looks like, this is it... but the thing should look very different from what diamonds can show: more of a transparent, polished stone than a reflective gem. Valuable diamonds are supposed to look good (sparkle) not just big - otherwise more people would buy and wear rough diamonds, and actually very few do. I strongly believe that the optical properties and appearance of that stone justify the discount entirely rather than make this purchase a relative bargain. There is better to be had for the money, sure so.
Of course, the decision is yours, but buying a stone just because it is well priced, does not sound obvious to me. For all that matters, it may be worth seeing an ideal cut first and decide once you know what you will be missing, not before... Just a thought, of course.
Conclusion? NOT a good deal... this stone is a good candidate for a recut. Only knowing the expected output from such intervention (cost, weight loss, etc.) I would consider whether the price is worth it.
Along this line, given the very shallow depth of this stone, under the most favorable circumstances it could result in a stone of 3.5-3.8 within the ideal range (this is deliberately optimistic, since there is no way to get near the truth without having the stone in a cutter's hand for inspection). Without much consideration on top notch cut quality, the result of the intervention could be priced near 20K. I would imagine that the cutter of that stone, did make similar considerations at some point and chose to cut the biggest stone possible for the lowest "acceptable" cut quality and almost twice the expected market value. If you choose to provide this market value... that is.
Of course, the decision is yours, but buying a stone just because it is well priced, does not sound obvious to me. For all that matters, it may be worth seeing an ideal cut first and decide once you know what you will be missing, not before... Just a thought, of course.
Conclusion? NOT a good deal... this stone is a good candidate for a recut. Only knowing the expected output from such intervention (cost, weight loss, etc.) I would consider whether the price is worth it.
Along this line, given the very shallow depth of this stone, under the most favorable circumstances it could result in a stone of 3.5-3.8 within the ideal range (this is deliberately optimistic, since there is no way to get near the truth without having the stone in a cutter's hand for inspection). Without much consideration on top notch cut quality, the result of the intervention could be priced near 20K. I would imagine that the cutter of that stone, did make similar considerations at some point and chose to cut the biggest stone possible for the lowest "acceptable" cut quality and almost twice the expected market value. If you choose to provide this market value... that is.
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I want to thank all of you for the valuable information you furnished. I am so glad i looked at this site before making a purchase that would have been a costly mistake. I had a feeling the proportions were off but the jeweler assured me that they were not. This is a great site with wonderful people wanting to be helpful. I am so glad that I checked it out here.
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