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Smith3

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So I got this ring, loved it and then saw it in person and it looked off. I thought it was the prongs but I talked to 3 different jewelers and they said the problem is the diamond is too big for the setting. My options are remake the setting or he could slice it in half, expanding, it and have larger diamonds on the shoulders to let the diamond air correctly. I can’t imagine how that would look, but it intrigues me.
The other is trying a diamond slightly smaller, mine 7.33x7.44 and a stone I found that I like is 7.16x7.03.
Do you think that slightly smaller millimeters will make a difference in the setting? My other question was my stone is 1.55 gia j vs2, the stone I’m looking at is 1.72 k vvs2. With the trading of my diamond, I would have to pay $3680. Stonealgo(don’t know how accurate) said mines worth low $9000. Where the stone I’m interested in it says it’s worth low $6000. Basically the diamond that I’m looking at for my setting is 9500 and they’re only giving me 5800 for my diamond if I decide to trade it in. I don’t know if that a low ball. I thought maybe $1000 difference but 3,000 seems pretty big jump. Tell me what you guys think. i’ll attach photos of my ring and the diamond that I’m talking about.
 

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Sorry, I'm confused about what your question is.

So right now what diamond is in the ring?
 
Not worth it to me. Smaller, and lower color, for thousands more? I'm guessing the difference in clarity would not be noticeable to your eye. Hard pass.

I feel like for that $3,000 you could have a custom copy of your setting made that would actually fit your stone.
 
Sorry, I'm confused about what your question is.

So right now what diamond is in the ring?

Sorry for the confusion The loose diamond that’s pictured is the one I’m asking about ,it would cost $3800 plus the stone in the setting as a trade in.
The one in the setting is the one I own, that came with the ring.
I haven’t touch the ring how you see it is how I got it, my question is, should I remake the setting even though I want it all antique or should I have the setting expanded or should I get a different diamond that will fit the setting better?
 
Sorry for the confusion The loose diamond that’s pictured is the one I’m asking about ,it would cost $3800 plus the stone in the setting as a trade in.
The one in the setting is the one I own, that came with the ring.
I haven’t touch the ring how you see it is how I got it, my question is, should I remake the setting even though I want it all antique or should I have the setting expanded or should I get a different diamond that will fit the setting better?

definitely not worth the trade! From these pics I prefer the facet pattern on your stone anyway. Also, I thought the stone you had was the bigger one (since folks mentioned your stone being too big for the setting). I'm confused about why you're considering an even larger stone?
 
definitely not worth the trade! From these pics I prefer the facet pattern on your stone anyway. Also, I thought the stone you had was the bigger one (since folks mentioned your stone being too big for the setting). I'm confused about why you're considering an even larger stone?

Because it’s deeper but smaller diameter.
It actually weighs more but it top-heavy
It’s 1.72 ct but it’s 7.16x7.03
Mines 1.55 7.33x7.44
See a little smaller around
 
Did you happen to check with David Klass or Sako (CJD Sako) about building up the prongs so they're proportional and symmetrical and will safely secure the center diamond?

Of course the 3 jewelers you checked with already may well be experts or competent in this kind of benchwork, but it is definitely a specialty and for some it may well be impossible and you wouldn't even want them to try it and end up frankensteining that beautiful mount ... but perhaps there are other benchpeople with the expertise and skillset to successfully do the work?

And, agree with the other posters, your diamond is much better than the one you're considering -- even if they were doing a straight exchange you'd be taking a loss let alone you putting out money to get a lesser stone ouch.
 
Did you happen to check with David Klass or Sako (CJD Sako) about building up the prongs so they're proportional and symmetrical and will safely secure the center diamond?

Of course the 3 jewelers you checked with already may well be experts or competent in this kind of benchwork, but it is definitely a specialty and for some it may well be impossible and you wouldn't even want them to try it and end up frankensteining that beautiful mount ... but perhaps there are other benchpeople with the expertise and skillset to successfully do the work?

And, agree with the other posters, your diamond is much better than the one you're considering -- even if they were doing a straight exchange you'd be taking a loss let alone you putting out money to get a lesser stone ouch.

Sako is the one who suggested to remake mount or slicing it in half and adding bigger diamonds. That’s the only reason I’m intrigued by that option because I know his works good and he’s very talented.
I wish there was a different way to make it work but those are my options.
Leaving it as is a problem because the prongs catch on everything and pluck my hair tear my clothes and it’s uncomfortable.
It’s hard to capture how much they flare
 
Nope, don't do it. That's a downgrade, not a trade.
The best move would be to either modify or remake the setting. The loss on the diamond won't make you happy in the long run. Sako has the particular skillset to do the work.
 
I feel like for that $3,000 you could have a custom copy of your setting made that would actually fit your stone.
I agree. You could even use the small stones from the original setting in the new one. It might be less than $3k. Trading your stone for more money for a smaller, less well cut stone doesn't make sense to me. So I'd do what @lala646 suggested unless your totally committed to having a completely antique ring.
 
Just to clarify @Lookinagain This other stone is an old mine cut, they tend to be chunky, it weighs more than my current stone but the weight distribute differently. It has more of a muffin top.
 
Just to clarify @Lookinagain This other stone is an old mine cut, they tend to be chunky, it weighs more than my current stone but the weight distribute differently. It has more of a muffin top.

Well, if you prefer an OMC then that's a different question I think. But you are still paying a fair amount of money and giving up value in your stone, IMO. Of course, it's up to you, but I wouldn't do it. I'd have the ring remade to fit your stone with the existing small diamonds in the setting. And I'd get quote from a few other jewelers as well.
 
I don’t mind how your current ring looks. I would wear it as is.
 
Well, if you prefer an OMC then that's a different question I think. But you are still paying a fair amount of money and giving up value in your stone, IMO. Of course, it's up to you, but I wouldn't do it. I'd have the ring remade to fit your stone with the existing small diamonds in the setting. And I'd get quote from a few other jewelers as well.

Thank you, I think that’s what I’ll do
 
I think it’s beautiful but if it’s not comfy that’s a real issue. Honestly, I’d trust Sako to modify the current setting to work with your current stone. I think he definitely has the skill set.
 
I don’t mind how your current ring looks. I would wear it as is.

The problem is the prongs flare and it catches on everything constantly.
The biggest problem is it rips out my hair
 
The problem is the prongs flare and it catches on everything constantly.
The biggest problem is it rips out my hair

But is the reason the prongs are catching is because the stone is too big? I’m not sure they wouldn’t catch even if the stone fit.
 
I wouldn’t do that trade. Weight matters but what you will see is face up diameter. I truly wouldn’t do it to save a setting but I do think new prongs could be fashioned for the setting.
 
But is the reason the prongs are catching is because the stone is too big? I’m not sure they wouldn’t catch even if the stone fit.

I thought it was a prong issue but all the jeweler’s said it’s because the diamond too big they shoved it in and stretched the prongs to make it fit. But the prongs look too tall, I don’t know how to articulate how the prongs seem messed up
 
I thought it was a prong issue but all the jeweler’s said it’s because the diamond too big they shoved it in and stretched the prongs to make it fit. But the prongs look too tall, I don’t know how to articulate how the prongs seem messed up

I would second @Slickk that you should reach out to Sako to see if your current setting can be saved. He does incredible restoration work.
 
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