Leon Mege claims these are "Natural Red Diamonds"

[kenny]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UPERZYfUqo

We all know with Fancy Colored Diamonds two things can be natural, or not.
1. The material itself can be mined from the earth or grown in a lab.
2. The origin of the color itself can come from natural processes in the earth or be the result of treatment in a lab.

Accurate discloser to customers is vital because the price difference is astronomical.
Customers have a right to be told the truth about what they are buying.

Red diamonds are the most rare color.
Do you really believe he found that many melee of identical color that have natural color origin?
I don't.
The melee material may be mined from the earth, but IMO they were treated for color so they should not be called "Natural Red Diamonds".
I see this misrepresentation as a huge ethical violation.

I'd think a high-profile pro like Leon Mege who sets lots of real GIA-graded fully natural FCDs would be very careful about this important distinction.

 

[T L]

Well, they could be natural diamonds, but artificially enhanced in color. I do think it's misleading to call them "natural red diamonds" though. For example, a lot of diffused sapphires, are referred to as natural sapphires, but the treatment is often not noted. They're still "natural," but again, artificially enhanced in color.

BTW, I find those melee very unattractive. Brownish red isn't my thing, and you can't even see them sparkle.

 

[JewelFreak]

Agree, Kenny. It's misrepresentation. I don't like the ring anyway, which is beside the point, but still, brownish-orange & brownish-red do nothing together.

--- Laurie

 

[chrono]

I agree with TL's post point for point. The question is what is defined as "natural". Is it that it is earth mined? Or is it that it is earth mined AND untreated? Is there a standard and widely accepted definition as to what is "natural" gemstone? Without knowing the accurate definition of what "natural" means, I don't know whether this is classified as misrepresentation.

 

[txgreeneyes]

I'm just stunned at the citrine (quartz) set with one of the most rare/expensive gems in the world.

I don't get it.

Then again, I really don't like citrine so I'm not unbiased. Ever since citrine bumped Topaz as the November birthstone, I've not been happy.

 

[txgreeneyes]

I have one more comment:

Before I found this forum, I bought a Princess Diana sapphire ring from a national B&M jewelry store. Think subway sandwich guy.

It was advertised as a "natural sapphire". I bought it thinking that it was earth mined and untreated.

Now I've learned that this particular high end designer does use treated stones.

Sure, I'm disappointed, and it wasn't exactly cheap. It's too late to return it. I love the ring anyway and wear it often.

 

[IrishBreakfast]

I'm just stunned at the citrine (quartz) set with one of the most rare/expensive gems in the world.

Amen to that. Can't understand why anyone would set citrine with red diamonds. Also agree with JewelFreak - they are not the most attractive melee I've ever seen.

As a side note, I've had two rings from LM and wasn't impressed with either, or the customer service that followed. He's not on my list of vendors to go back to.

 

[acebruin]

i am the owner of that ring... i can assure you leon said they're radiated natural red diamonds when i bought it... nonetheless the ring took my breath away at first glance... so no need to worry about misrepresentation...

 

[acebruin]

to add, that video was posted on youtube long after i had bought the ring...

 

[kenny]

i am the owner of that ring... i can assure you leon said they're radiated natural red diamonds when i bought it... nonetheless the ring took my breath away at first glance... so no need to worry about misrepresentation...

Thanks for letting us know acebruin.
That's reassuring.

 

[soberguy]

I think it's the norm to say, natural fancy red to denote a fancy color of natural origin. Saying natural red means to me natural diamonds that have been treated.

 

[Niel]

i am the owner of that ring... i can assure you leon said they're radiated natural red diamonds when i bought it... nonetheless the ring took my breath away at first glance... so no need to worry about misrepresentation...

Do you have any and shots?? I think it looks very sultry!

 

[aljdewey]

Acebruin, I don't think I have the words to say how disappointed I am at how your ring has been spoken about in this thread.

This thread is an example of exactly what should not happen on PS, and I'm so very sorry it happened to you.

 

[OreoRosies86]

I love it. Very regal looking.

 

[cygnet]

I think it's absolutely lovely.

 

[T L]

Acebruin, I don't think I have the words to say how disappointed I am at how your ring has been spoken about in this thread.

This thread is an example of exactly what should not happen on PS, and I'm so very sorry it happened to you.

Had I known that this was owned by a PS'er, or had anyone else, I'm sure there wouldn't have been those comments. I don't think people had meant any harm or insensitivity. Sometimes its unavoidable, because we all comment on various rings/gems/jewelry on the internet, and how do any of us know who owns it, let alone a PS'er.

 

[deskjockey]

FWIW I actually like the color combination. Fall's my favorite season for a reason - golds and reds and umbers

Then again, I like nearly everything :p

 

[chrono]

Acebruin,
I know that you are a very savvy buyer of gems, especially FCDs. Thank you for the clarification.

 

[Laila619]

I think it's a very pretty and unique ring, Acebruin! I bet in person it's fantastic!

 

[acebruin]

it's quite alright... it's only misrepresented if the buyer is not told about the origin of the stone, in this case they're radiated orangy red diamonds... and i do have an eye for fancy colored diamonds... no one can misrepresent anything when it comes to colored diamonds to me...

for those who said anything bad about the ring, it's ok i'm not offended... you haven't seen the ring in real life and that's all i have to say about it... leon actually brought this out unfinished because he wanted to show me when i was setting my 3.01 FIY EC... it hasn't been polished yet when i saw it... and before i even saw a close up of it, i have already fallen in love with it... as he walked into the office with this ring on his finger, i couldn't stop staring at it... hence i bought it right away...

here's the thread of my 3.01 FIY EC...
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-stone-fancy-intense-yellow-ec-ring.197162/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-stone-fancy-intense-yellow-ec-ring.197162/[/URL]

btw it was my idea to set that as a 3 stone with ECs... leon had a different idea for it... and when i mentioned 3 stone, he said it could work... at it did work wonders! so if you think leon is very adamant and will stick to whatever opinion he has, his opinion can be changed by his customer...

only have 1 hand shot of the citrine taken inside right after opening the package...

 

[Niel]

That's beautiful I think. Very unique but not out there. Hard to find a good middle ground there, sometimes.

 

[RTFrog]

That's a very cool - unique and glowly ring - thanks for the hand shot! Was hoping there'd be some pictures.

 

[FrekeChild]

Citrine is underrated. As evidenced by the picture above.

ETA: And HOLY MONKEYS that EC is what dreams are made of!

 

[ilovegemstones]

Gorgeous! How regal looking! Nice combo.

 

[Niel]

Came back to say it reminds me of lava.

 

[psproot12]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UPERZYfUqo

We all know with Fancy Colored Diamonds two things can be natural, or not.
1. The material itself can be mined from the earth or grown in a lab.
2. The origin of the color itself can come from natural processes in the earth or be the result of treatment in a lab.

Accurate discloser to customers is vital because the price difference is astronomical.
Customers have a right to be told the truth about what they are buying.

Red diamonds are the most rare color.
Do you really believe he found that many melee of identical color that have natural color origin?
I don't.
The melee material may be mined from the earth, but IMO they were treated for color so they should not be called "Natural Red Diamonds".
I see this misrepresentation as a huge ethical violation.

I'd think a high-profile pro like Leon Mege who sets lots of real GIA-graded fully natural FCDs would be very careful about this important distinction.

Look at the consistency of the color and the depth, each stone is COMPLETELY evenly saturated red and is stone has an identical hue. I am 100% sure these are irradiated diamonds, earthmined or not they're not worth much. There are literally a few hundred red diamonds ever found. All the red diamonds ever found could fit in your cupped hands... and somebody finds 30 identical melee pieces and sets them with citrine??

 

[Andelain]

Look at the consistency of the color and the depth, each stone is COMPLETELY evenly saturated red and is stone has an identical hue. I am 100% sure these are irradiated diamonds, earthmined or not they're not worth much. There are literally a few hundred red diamonds ever found. All the red diamonds ever found could fit in your cupped hands... and somebody finds 30 identical melee pieces and sets them with citrine??

Guess you couldn't be bothered with reading the thread...

 

[eastjavaman]

It is gorgeous, I was gonna say that is one of Kenny's camera trick(You know how he is with camera ) until I see the youtube video and the comments.

 

[psproot12]

I know, I realized everyone had said this before, but I just thought it would be funny if insanely rare diamonds were set with a citrine, all perfectly matching. Not to discredit the beautiful and unique ring. I'm just surprised such few people know how rare a true red FCD is.