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Looking for an opinion on a 1.57 J-SI1 H&A

tacorigirl

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Round Brilliant
Carat Weight : 1.57
Color Grade: J
Clarity Grade: SI1
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Flourescence: None
medium to slightly thick
Eye Clean
Table: 57%
Width: 60.5%
Culet: None
Crown Angle: 34
Pavillion Angle: 40.8
Stone is GIA certified.

Cut is the most important thing for me. And I will go as low as J on color and clarity SI1. The price for this diamond is $7,575. Most diamonds that are 1.5 carats H&A J SI1 are at least $8.5K (The vendor is from Pricescope). So the price looks good. I'm really looking for fire and Scintillation. I know H&A doesn't gurantee this. However, I like the look of perfect symmetry when looking at a diamond. Let me know if I left anything out. So please weigh in on this stone. Thanks!
 
tacorigirl said:
Round Brilliant
Carat Weight : 1.57
Color Grade: J
Clarity Grade: SI1
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Flourescence: None
medium to slightly thick
Eye Clean
Table: 57%
Width: 60.5%
Culet: None
Crown Angle: 34
Pavillion Angle: 40.8
Stone is GIA certified.

Cut is the most important thing for me. And I will go as low as J on color and clarity SI1. The price for this diamond is $7,575. Most diamonds that are 1.5 carats H&A J SI1 are at least $8.5K (The vendor is from Pricescope). So the price looks good. I'm really looking for fire and Scintillation. I know H&A doesn't gurantee this. However, I like the look of perfect symmetry when looking at a diamond. Let me know if I left anything out. So please weigh in on this stone. Thanks!

There is usually no shortcut or bargain to be found, PS vendor margins are small.
Usually you are paying less for less.

Some vendors claim hearts and arrows without the proof (Hearts and Arrows images), this should be considered carefully.
If the vendor is not providing you with Idealscope or ASET, Hearts and Arrows images you will not able to tell how close to ideal optical symmetry or how well the stone's proportions are at returning light to your eyes.
 
idealscope? hearts image?
 
It is a very good price for the stone. Is it eye clean?

If not being sold as an H&A don't worry about the hearts and arrows images. But an idealscope would help.
 
unless you carry a hearts viewer and keep your stone unset you aren't going to see these symmetric hearts ;))


Ditto, you need to see the hearts (or get a pic) to confirm H&A, but your stone has 'nice numbers' and could be a very nice stone whether H&A or not
 
I will request H&A images to confirm. However, is it possible to detect H&A with the naked eye? And the viewer will tell you for sure. Is this true?

If we disregard the H&A aspect for a second, based on the dimension listed above, will this diamond have a lot of fire and scintillation?
 
if it were me, I totally buy it just from those specs and rounds are more predictable, I"m more confident now, that I bought two stones albeit only .30ct each without any images to say what I had said (both had fantastic sharp looking arrows). If it were from a PS vendor I'm sure they have a good return policy as well. I'd snatch that up for the price factor as well. I think you will be pleased, however, I would sometimes worry about the SI if you don't have a magnified image? but you said it is eye clean. If its a Branded Cut and called and H&A then you are paying a little bit of premium for the "H&A" and thus you'd probably wanted to verify the images for yourself.
 
tacorigirl said:
I will request H&A images to confirm. However, is it possible to detect H&A with the naked eye? And the viewer will tell you for sure. Is this true? No, you need a hearts viewer and an unobstructed view of the pavilion to see the hearts

If we disregard the H&A aspect for a second, based on the dimension listed above, will this diamond have a lot of fire and scintillation?
Going just by dimensions, dimensions are "fine", but GIA averages then rounds so the number you see is the rounded average of 8 sections, quite a bit of wiggle room so in-person inspection by a pro & images help
 
I ased the vendor: Do you have idealscope or H&A images? And is there a pricescope discount?

His reponse: I have attached an image of 1.57ct J-si- eye clean as you specified, Our % on a triple XXX is on the low single digits. Let me know your thoughts as i await your reply.

The attached pics tells me nothing about hearts and arrows right?

And "our % on a triple XXX is on the low single digits" means no pricescope discount? :tongue:

1.57 J SI1 XXX 2.jpg

1.57 J SI1 XXX 3.jpg
 
The price is so low that a) I would not worry about PS discount, and b) it is not commanding a premium for H&A so I would also not worry about that.

Unless you want to *know* it is H&A, you do not need that label to have a very nice and lively diamond. I wager many consumers cannot tell the difference with the naked eye (though some hold different opinions).

As long as the vendor is reputable and has a great return policy, I think it is worth looking at this stone in person -- GIA Ex combined with a good HCA score means it passes two of the rejection tests. The only ones left are is it really eye clean, and having an ideal scope image if that matters to you, or seeing it in person and taking it for a "test run" in many different lighting environments.

Who is the vendor?
 
I'm confused by the table/width. Did you mean depth?
 
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