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Weslaw11

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Glad i found this community.. I'm pretty lost picking a diamond for an ER and everyone is quick to help.

The few diamonds I've asked for feedback on turned out to be not so great so I'm looking for suggestions on stones to consider (and why i should consider it would be great)

I'm looking for a round natural stone, H or G color (could go I if i had to), VS2-SI1 clarity, .85-.99 carat around $4000-5500.

I've seen a lot of stones that look good on JA but when i reached out to customer service idealscope wasn't available for most. Should I cross the stone off my list of possibilities if JA doesn't have idealscope of it?

TIA
 
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A few different options I found by using the PS diamond search with an excellent HCA score and depth of less than 63:

Diamond | 0.860 ct G VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4361922

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.860 carat G color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4361922
www.whiteflash.com
WF cuts ideal cut diamonds so any of their in-stock diamonds will be assured of having a great cut.

www.jamesallen.com

1.02 Carat round diamond

This 1.02 carat round diamond I color vvs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA
www.jamesallen.com www.jamesallen.com
This one looks pretty good to me and hits the carat mark.

B2C Jewels | Brilliant Round Cut Certified Natural Diamonds

www.b2cjewels.com www.b2cjewels.com
Also looks good to me and hits the carat mark - this one is a different "flavor" of diamond than the others listed, as it's more of a 60/60 make and will probably have more white light return and less colorful light return (fire) than the others here. Some people like that more. It's also the largest face-up size of any of these, so if that's what you're after, that's where 60/60 makes excel.

www.jamesallen.com

0.88 Carat round diamond

This 0.88 carat round diamond G color vs1 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS
www.jamesallen.com www.jamesallen.com
This is an AGS Ideal 0, so it has been judged for performance already. It's going to be pretty similar to the WF diamond probably but it's a different color/clarity combo than WF has in stock.

www.jamesallen.com

0.92 Carat round diamond

This 0.92 carat round diamond H color vvs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA
www.jamesallen.com www.jamesallen.com
In case you want to break the .9 ct line.
 
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Thank you for the suggestions. That last one, the .92 carat H VVS2, any feedback on the idealscope or gia?cert (15).jpegarrows (2).png
 

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Weslaw11 said:
Any concerns with the inclusions for this stone?
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lovedogs said:
No concerns at all. It's a gorgeous stone
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Ditto. Zero concerns with a VS2 that's highly vetted enough to be part of their top of the line ACA showcase.

By purchasing from WF, you will be receiving amongst the best customer service in the diamond retail industry. They have a no questions asked 100% money back return period, plus the best lifetime upgrade program I've yet to see beaten. You get 100% of your purchase price applied to any upgrade, and only have to spend $1 more.
 
Weslaw11 said:
Thank you for the suggestions. That last one, the .92 carat H VVS2, any feedback on the idealscope or gia?cert (15).jpegarrows (2).png
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At 62.6 it's a little deeper than you'd ideally like to see, and we can see that reflected in the idealscope, but overall I think it's pretty good.
 
The search continues.. have started focusing on Whiteflash ACA stone since I'm having trouble getting idealscope images from places like JA.

For these 3 ACA stones, should I be concerned with the location of the inclusions on any of them? Any potential impact to performance or durability i should worry about? I know I'm not going to get perfect staying below $4500 but hoping to get something really nice.

Are all 3 of these quality stones? Am i on the right track?

Diamond | 0.788 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4386719

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.788 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4386719
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 0.816 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4405761

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.816 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4405761
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 0.811 ct I VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4402606

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.811 carat I color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4402606
www.whiteflash.com
 
I'm loving the 0.788 specs:

55.5% table
15.4% CH
40.8° PA
34.7° CA
77% LGF

I don't think the inclusions on any of the three is a worry...you will have a great return policy to take advantage of if you feel otherwise once you get whichever you choose in your hands.
 
Literally any of the ACAs are among the best and most precisely cut stones one can buy. If it were me I would choose the largest stone I could afford in the color/clarity I wanted.
 
Thank you.

What do you think about the .811's specs? I'm having a hard time differentating stones based on specs. I just know if a stone's specs are is "in acceptable range."
 
I have recently purchased WF ACA 0.835ct I VS1 for a solitaire pendant and had them compared H vs I. The difference was so insignificant that I went with an I (very hesitant due to the color) but once I saw the stone I was very happy with the selection - remember the stone is rather small so the color difference between H and I will not be all that visible. I also considered the 0.788 H that you are looking at (see pic) and am including a color comparison image of the three stones I considered myself that WF provided for me. I was lucky that my I was a high I and as you can see, there is not much difference in color. In the end, I prioritized maximizing the size and was able to get the best bang for my buck. Ask WF to compare the stones you are considering.

PS: I picked my stone based on having a small table (mine is 54) and a higher crown (mine is 34.6) and it being a high I. That is my preference, might not be yours. The 0.811 is also nice just the table of 57 is a bit large for me. All ACAs are going to be spectacular.
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daisygrl said:
I have recently purchased WF ACA 0.835ct I VS1 for a solitaire pendant and had them compared H vs I. The difference was so insignificant that I went with an I (very hesitant due to the color) but once I saw the stone I was very happy with the selection - remember the stone is rather small so the color difference between H and I will not be all that visible. I also considered the 0.788 H that you are looking at (see pic) and am including a color comparison image of the three stones I considered myself that WF provided for me. I was lucky that my I was a high I and as you can see, there is not much difference in color. In the end, I prioritized maximizing the size and was able to get the best bang for my buck. Ask WF to compare the stones you are considering.

PS: I picked my stone based on having a small table (mine is 54) and a higher crown (mine is 34.6) and it being a high I. That is my preference, might not be yours. The 0.811 is also nice just the table of 57 is a bit large for me. All ACAs are going to be spectacular.
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Thanks for this info, really helps and congrats on your purchase
 
Weslaw11 said:
How big of a drop off is it going from ACA to expert selection?

Comparing quality for these 2.. is it night and day? I know the carat size is a little bigger on the expert selection but was surprised it's a little more expensive.

expert selection: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4219809.htm

ACA: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4402606.htm
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Their ES line is considered "just barely misses being an ACA"...and still every bit of what would be classified as super ideal cuts. So much so, that WF allows ANY of their in-house diamonds within their ACA, ES, and PS lines to be eligible for the exact same upgrade program.
 
Weslaw11 said:
How big of a drop off is it going from ACA to expert selection?

Comparing quality for these 2.. is it night and day? I know the carat size is a little bigger on the expert selection but was surprised it's a little more expensive.

expert selection: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4219809.htm

ACA: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4402606.htm
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totally non-expert opinion, between these 2, I like the the .811. In the vids, the little cloud inclusion just flashes for a second and only in the brilliance vid when the light hit is just right. Where the pinpoints in the first stone are more steadily there. I am certain without such magnification both are totally eye clean, and yet for psychological reasons, I would prefer the second stone (the .811) for an engagement ring.
 
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Thanks everyone - think I have narrowed it down to 4 ACA stones. I'm waiting on a color comparison from Whiteflash. I know they should all be good because they are ACA, but based on their specs should I expect any big differences in performance?

Top two are ~.8ct I VS2. How will these two perform differently? I'm leaning towards the .811 because it seems to have less inclusions. The .804 has "additional clouds not shown" listed on its report.

Diamond | 0.811 ct I VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4402606

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.811 carat I color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4402606
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 0.804 ct I VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4383168

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.804 carat I color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4383168
www.whiteflash.com


The next is the .73ct I VS1. Considering it for the $ saving. Not sure if it'll look big enough, guess we'll need to stop by a store to get a better feel for how different stone sizes will look on the finger.

Diamond | 0.734 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4383159

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.734 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4383159
www.whiteflash.com


The last is a .765 H VS2. Considering this one in case I don't like the I color when I'm doing my color comparison.

Diamond | 0.765 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4383157

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.765 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4383157
www.whiteflash.com
 
Do you know what size finger the ring will be on? I wear a 6.75 US. Here is my previous .718 I SI1 ACA (I upgrade to another ACA last month.) Hope this helps. P.S. You really can’t go wrong with a WF ACA. 25C11D57-673A-4801-A7FE-DBB268307C19.jpeg81B15BE4-7C59-4106-BAF4-D783531D9B6C.jpeg
 
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