New to diamonds!

[Mike__A]

Hey Everyone,

New to the diamond world. I’m currently looking for a diamond to purchase for an engagement ring. I came across this diamond on B2C and wondering if this is a good purchase. From all the info I’ve read I would say yes… My only concern is the diamond having a faint fluorescence. Any info would be much appreciated!
Thanks!

 

[Lookinagain]

do you have photos and videos? Fancy shapes can't be judged by the certificate. They need to be seen. Faint fluorescence shouldn't be an issue but to judge the stone, photos and videos are really needed.

 

[Mike__A]

do you have photos and videos? Fancy shapes can't be judged by the certificate. They need to be seen. Faint fluorescence shouldn't be an issue but to judge the stone, photos and videos are really needed.

Thanks for the reply!
B2C doesn’t have any videos or pictures. That’s another dilemma I’m running into.

 

[Lookinagain]

Well, if you tell us your size, clarity, color requirements and your budget, then folks can help you find a nice oval. I don't think anyone will tell you to buy an oval sight unseen. And most will tell you such high color and clarity is not necessary, unless it's for cultural reasons.

 

[lovedogs]

Well, if you tell us your size, clarity, color requirements and your budget, then folks can help you find a nice oval. I don't think anyone will tell you to buy an oval sight unseen. And most will tell you such high color and clarity is not necessary, unless it's for cultural reasons.

This. Pic and video are non negotiable for fancy cuts

 

[jjca]

Thanks for the reply!
B2C doesn’t have any videos or pictures. That’s another dilemma I’m running into.

I wouldn't consider buying a diamond unseen (pics/videos). There are so many variables... can you look elsewhere or "require" them to send you some?

 

[Mike__A]

Thanks for all the replies. I messaged B2C asking for pics and videos. I’m also concerned about getting one with a minimal to no bow tie effect.

I’m mainly looking for:
- 2 to 2.5 ct oval cut
-Clarity vvs1, vvs2 or IF
-Color D, E, or F
-length to width ratio around 1.5
-Polish: excellent
-Symmetry: excellent
-Girdle: THK to STK
Fluorescence :Faint to none


Thanks again!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Why are you limiting yourself to such high color and clarity? You can easily buy a G VS2 that is identical to the naked eye and either save money or get a larger diamond. I just want to make sure you know you are making a choice that is not strictly necessary to have a gorgeous diamond.

 

[lovedogs]

Why are you limiting yourself to such high color and clarity? You can easily buy a G VS2 that is identical to the naked eye and either save money or get a larger diamond. I just want to make sure you know you are making a choice that is not strictly necessary to have a gorgeous diamond.

Agree

 

[Dreamer_D]

Agree

I dunno what’s going on but we keep seeing people trying to buy FL diamonds these days and not because they have values about purity in diamonds. Do you think it is an inadvertent influence of lab stones or something? It’s very strange.

 

[lovedogs]

I dunno what’s going on but we keep seeing people trying to buy FL diamonds these days and not because they have values about purity in diamonds. Do you think it is an inadvertent influence of lab stones or something? It’s very strange.

Yeah, i don't understand.

 

[Mike__A]

Why are you limiting yourself to such high color and clarity? You can easily buy a G VS2 that is identical to the naked eye and either save money or get a larger diamond. I just want to make sure you know you are making a choice that is not strictly necessary to have a gorgeous diamond.

I didn’t know that a G VS2 could look similar to the naked eye! I’ll do some more research and see whats around. I appreciate your input.

 

[Lookinagain]

Thanks for all the replies. I messaged B2C asking for pics and videos. I’m also concerned about getting one with a minimal to no bow tie effect.

I’m mainly looking for:
- 2 to 2.5 ct oval cut
-Clarity vvs1, vvs2 or IF
-Color D, E, or F
-length to width ratio around 1.5
-Polish: excellent
-Symmetry: excellent
-Girdle: THK to STK
Fluorescence :Faint to none


Thanks again!

We need your budget as well. And agree, that high clarity isn't necessary, nor is that high of a color unless your intended is super, super color sensitive. G is generally plenty white for most folks.

 

[Lookinagain]

I dunno what’s going on but we keep seeing people trying to buy FL diamonds these days and not because they have values about purity in diamonds. Do you think it is an inadvertent influence of lab stones or something? It’s very strange.

Maybe a few things? This OP and another thinking of buying an IF are both new to diamonds so perhaps they think that the higher color and clarity means better? Also, and I actually know absolutely nothing about lab diamonds, but if these high clarity and colors in labs are a lot less expensive, then perhaps their friends are buying those and they think they need the same color/clarity in earth-mined? Just a guess though.

 

[Dreamer_D]

I didn’t know that a G VS2 could look similar to the naked eye! I’ll do some more research and see whats around. I appreciate your input.

Many people like icy icy white diamonds, but many people also consider G/H color to be very white indeed and even if they can see a very slight tint they don’t mind it and some people can’t tell the difference anyway. Many people even like more tinted diamonds. You should try to visit a store with GIA graded natural diamonds and look as some colors in person to determine your own color preferences.

Also for clarity usually around here we are happy if it can’t be seen! VS is usually very safe. I am happy the SI1 and I own SI2 diamonds that are clean to my eyes.

Usually our advice is not to spend money on what you cannot see. Put money into cut quality and size.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Maybe a few things? This OP and another thinking of buying an IF are both new to diamonds so perhaps they think that the higher color and clarity means better? Also, and I actually know absolutely nothing about lab diamonds, but if these high clarity and colors in labs are a lot less expensive, then perhaps their friends are buying those and they think they need the same color/clarity in earth-mined? Just a guess though.

This focus on FL seems new and I think maybe it is bc labs are backally always FL and VVS and DE color it is shifting people’s expectations.

If I was going to spend 20k on a natural diamond I darn sure would not want it to look just like a lab diamond that costs 1/10th the price. I like some tint and inclusions in my natural diamonds. I liked it before labs and I like it more now.

 

[Ibrakeforpossums]

This focus on FL seems new and I think maybe it is bc labs are backally always FL and VVS and DE color it is shifting people’s expectations.

If I was going to spend 20k on a natural diamond I darn sure would not want it to look just like a lab diamond that costs 1/10th the price. I like some tint and inclusions in my natural diamonds. I liked it before labs and I like it more now.

yesss.

 

[freddyboston]

This focus on FL seems new and I think maybe it is bc labs are backally always FL and VVS and DE color it is shifting people’s expectations.

If I was going to spend 20k on a natural diamond I darn sure would not want it to look just like a lab diamond that costs 1/10th the price. I like some tint and inclusions in my natural diamonds. I liked it before labs and I like it more now.

agree - and they worry about Fluor too... i'd be a bit fearfull buying a 2ct D FL non fluor Natural - how would you be certain it wasn't a conterfeit Lab copy of a legit Natural GIA cert.

Italian Grading Lab Warns of Synthetic-Diamond Scam

Italian gemological lab Gem-Tech has warned the trade that a number of lab-grown diamonds circulating in the country are being sold as natural.

rapaport.com

 

[Dreamer_D]

agree - and they worry about Fluor too... i'd be a bit fearfull buying a 2ct D FL non fluor Natural - how would you be certain it wasn't a conterfeit Lab copy of a legit Natural GIA cert.

Italian Grading Lab Warns of Synthetic-Diamond Scam

Italian gemological lab Gem-Tech has warned the trade that a number of lab-grown diamonds circulating in the country are being sold as natural.

rapaport.com

Such a rare situation where the risk of a fake is actually possible! When I buy old cut diamonds on ebay my kids are always like "How do you know its reallll???" And I say "They don't make synthetics like this". Anyway it is nice to know I can easily identify my diamonds in a line up lol

 

[MissGotRocks]

agree - and they worry about Fluor too... i'd be a bit fearfull buying a 2ct D FL non fluor Natural - how would you be certain it wasn't a conterfeit Lab copy of a legit Natural GIA cert.

Italian Grading Lab Warns of Synthetic-Diamond Scam

Italian gemological lab Gem-Tech has warned the trade that a number of lab-grown diamonds circulating in the country are being sold as natural.

rapaport.com

That is where your trust of a vendor comes into play.