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Ilasa

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Hi Everyone. Sorry for the dramatic headline, thought I''d make an entrance in style. I''ve lurked for a long time and just registered today. Ironically, it was the realization that I am NOT close to getting engaged that pushed me to do it.


I turned 27 last month, and have been with my BF (he''s 30) for 2 years (ann is next month). When we first started dating, he brought up the topic of marriage and said he would like to be married after dating for 1 year. I was weary that he was talking marriage so soon, but that sounded like a great plan, he was a great guy, getting married was something that has been important to me, so everything seemed wonderful. I didn''t bring it up much because I figured that after dating for a year, he would just do it like he said he would.


Close to our 1 year mark (our original timeline), I started bringing up the issue and he said he wasn''t ready and would need more time. At about 1.5 years we went ring shopping together, and I picked out my dream ring. I thought going ring-shopping meant that we were close to getting engaged, but it didn''t. He said he wasn''t ready again and gave me a new timeframe, which was March because I had wanted to be engaged before my birthday. There were always new reasons for extending the timeframe (he "wanted to wait until he was 30", "made more money", "got a new job", had a "certain feeling" etc). Around January, he said he wouldn''t be ready by March/April afterall, and that he couldn''t give me another timeframe-- although he new for sure that I was the perfect girl for him and that he wanted to be married to me "someday". I tried breaking up with him but got back together because on a day-to-day basis, nothing was wrong with our relationship and I missed him too much.


All of the waiting and hoping has been really frustrating for me. I worry that maybe it won''t happen and I will never be married because he was stringing me along. He has a lot of issues from his childhood--his parents divorced when he was young, and he has always provided emotional support for his mom. He worries that getting married may equal abandoning his mom, and may mean more obligations/less freedom for him, just like when he was young (for example, he couldn''t go away for college because he had to stay close to his mother and take care of her). He is torn because he does not want to lose me, yet has overwhelming hesitation about getting married. I have suggested that he talk to a therapist but he is reluctant.


I don''t think he is stringing me along intentionally, and I feel guilty for thinking about leaving him because he is such a great boyfriend, but I also am extremely worried about my future, especially as I am getting older. Also in my culture (Indian) it is not typical to be dating for so long without marriage so I have added external (and internal) pressure. I was hoping someone out there has some wisdom that could help me through this.


On a better note, last month I was visiting my parents on the east coast and had a custom RHR made. It is a 2ct pink sapphire in a legacy-inspired setting (similar to my avatar), which was shipped today. It has elements from my dream e-ring (cushion cut, halo, pave). Although it stung a little that after 2 years of dating the ring I got was from myself, it was also empowering to not have to wait for a guy to get a great ring.
 
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I think that you know what you need to do.
 
Happy stuff first: that is a beautiful ring. How great that you''ll have it soon!

The rest: ugh. There''s no easy way out of this situation, I think. Would he be willing to go to a couples'' counselor rather than to go by himself? That might make the energy barrier a little lower. Can you see yourself never being married, but living happily ever after with him? For some of us, that''s a reasonable choice. If the answer to both of the above is no, then Freke may be right.
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One thing is certain, I don''t think you should feel guilty for thinking about leaving him over this. The way you say it (and the way many people see it) it''s such a small thing, and it''s all in your head, etc. and he''s such a great boyfriend. But of course you''d think about leaving a relationship that''s filled with anxiety and unhappiness! Who wouldn''t? That''s basic self protective instincts at work! But for some reason we don''t put it in those terms - we tell ourselves that we''re being unreasonable, and that we should make ourselves stop being anxious and/or unhappy. That doesn''t address the problem, and adds guilt to the anxiety and unhappiness. Not a good scene.

I wish you luck, and I wish I had some actual wisdom to share. Maybe someone else will!
 
Hi Ilasa,

I see how difficult this situation must be for you. Is your bf also Indian? The reason I ask is because in many Asian cultures, there is big reluctance to see a therapist or to seek help for these types of personal internal issues. You mentioned about it not being typical to date for this long without marriage - I think you should just do what feels right for you despite the cultural norms.

I agree with the other sentiments written that you should not feel guilty for leaving if that is what you decide to do. You need to think about what is best for yourself and your future.

And, congrats on your new ring - enjoy it and wear it in good health!

kroshka
 
Date: 5/27/2008 11:09:47 PM
Author: FrekeChild
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I think that you know what you need to do.

Ditto.
 
Date: 5/28/2008 2:09:02 AM
Author: Deelight

Date: 5/27/2008 11:09:47 PM
Author: FrekeChild
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I think that you know what you need to do.

Ditto.
That would make thritto. You''re not getting any younger.
 
Hi Llasa. Firstly, welcome! I meant to add to this post last night but it got kind of late.

I think in this case, you have to follow your heart--I mean really listen to it. If, like pjean said, you feel okay with not getting married any time soon, or ever, then you should stay because you love him and he loves you. BUT, from your words, that isn''t the case, right? You do want to get married...it is clearly very important to you and therefore something you shouldn''t compromise on. If you feel comfortable giving yourself a timeline, like say another 6 months, then do it. If you know in your heart that things aren''t going to change in another year, then you might want to seriously consider walking away from this relationship. You are young and have plenty of time to meet someone new and start over but don''t have plenty of time to waste, and it seems you''re concerned with that.

You sound very clever and lovely...so do stick around no matter what happens. I wish you all the best!
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I think you recognize that these are HIS issues. It sounds like he has a long way to get over his fears before he can commit to anybody and I understand how hard it is to struggle between wanting to support him because you know that he''s not stringing you along, but also needing to put yourself first.

I never try to convince a woman to leave before she is completely ready to move on with her life, but it''s obvious that in this case your internal struggle is starting to feel overwhelming and suffocating. I often feel that women in this situation internalize the breakup before it happens...they struggle with the decision for so long that by the time it happens, a wave of relief sweeps over them because they are no longer waiting indefinitely.

Anyway, I just wanted to post for support--being in limbo is always hard on one''s self-esteem even when you know it''s not YOU. Still, I''m telling you that it''s NOT you and to encourage him to get over his issues whether you are in the picture or not.
 
Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think it's time to walk.
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Maybe try to have one last all out conversation with him where you explain how you're feeling and then promise to keep quiet while he gives you and honest HONEST understanding about why he's not ready. It does sound like he's making excuses and there's something else going on. But really, be ready to walk.

Good for you for buying yourself bling though! It was for that very reason that I first joined PS, I bought myself an actual Legacy ring and wasn't sure if that was a weird thing to do. Now I'm happily married (to a guy I had juuuust started dating when I signed up here...so it wasn't an LIW situation) and I still buy myself jewelry all the time!
 
Date: 5/28/2008 9:36:24 AM
Author: purrfectpear
Date: 5/28/2008 2:09:02 AM

Author: Deelight


Date: 5/27/2008 11:09:47 PM

Author: FrekeChild

I think that you know what you need to do.

Ditto.
That would make thritto. You''re not getting any younger.
#4 (sorry, don''t know my Latin)
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Date: 5/28/2008 10:09:03 AM
Author: NewEnglandLady

your internal struggle is starting to feel overwhelming and suffocating. I often feel that women in this situation internalize the breakup before it happens...they struggle with the decision for so long that by the time it happens, a wave of relief sweeps over them because they are no longer waiting indefinitely.
So true. So true.

Guys will make excuses - whether realistic or not - but the end result is still the same. What he''s telling you, in the nicest way possible by making excuses, is No.

As simple and cold as that sounds, it took me a long time to hear it and accept it.

You don''t want the same thing. If his answer is Not Right Now, and your wishes are for Now - then there is a disconnect. I''ve learned that timing is almost everything.

Listen to your heart, but don''t ignore your head. Hugs!
 
I''m so sorry that you''re going through this hard time. Congratulations on buying yourself some bling. And congratulations on facing this tough issue head on. It''s not easy, I am sure. But you''re in the thick of things, sorting out your head and your heart. My friend always says your major three points need to agree on important issues, unless you''re going to take a huge leap of faith. Your head, your heart and your gut. It''s like the three executive powers! And of course, I feel that the heart has veto power. I lead with my heart but my head is like the VP. The gut instinct is like the Secretary of State. She''s Condi. LOL.
 
style="WIDTH: 95.05%; HEIGHT: 98px">Date: 5/30/2008 11:20:33 AM
Author: Starset Princess
Guys will make excuses - whether realistic or not - but the end result is still the same. What he''s telling you, in the nicest way possible by making excuses, is No.
I fully agree - been there - experienced it. Wish I saw the signs or had listened to my friends'' observations at the time.

Cheers to getting a fabulous ring for yourself though!!!!! Yay!
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Hi! I''m so sorry you''re going through this. What you need to realize is that there will be other guys out there that you can love. You need to find one that wants the same things that you do (as far as marriage, children, the big stuff).

Also think about why a man who was eager to get married when you met him is dragging his feet like this. MHO is that either 1) he wasn''t truthful about wanting to get married in the first place or 2) he doesn''t want to marry you.

I''m so sorry if this is coming off sounding harsh. I''m trying to be honest. I''ve been through that before and I guess it kind of still makes me angry to hear about a guy stringing along a nice girl like that.
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I really hope you can work things out. Best of luck to you!
 
Date: 5/30/2008 12:35:19 PM
Author: nclrgirl
Hi! I''m so sorry you''re going through this. What you need to realize is that there will be other guys out there that you can love. You need to find one that wants the same things that you do (as far as marriage, children, the big stuff).

Also think about why a man who was eager to get married when you met him is dragging his feet like this. MHO is that either 1) he wasn''t truthful about wanting to get married in the first place or 2) he doesn''t want to marry you.

I''m so sorry if this is coming off sounding harsh. I''m trying to be honest. I''ve been through that before and I guess it kind of still makes me angry to hear about a guy stringing along a nice girl like that.
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I really hope you can work things out. Best of luck to you!
This is a fantastic post.

Also, my husband is from a horribly broken family, with a very strange history, and it took him a while to be ready.

However, he never strung me along like your boyfriend is doing to you, and I think you need to put your foot down, as hard as it might be.

I can''t wait to see your ring! Please keep us posted on what you decide to do, dear.
 
Thanks everyone for your thoughtful replies! The general sentiment that I already knew what I had to do was correct, and I broke things off with him a few days ago. I''m glad I did it now instead of letting another 2 years pass with the same outcome. Your posts really helped enforce that I was making the right decision so thanks again!
 
Date: 6/1/2008 1:59:51 PM
Author: Ilasa
Thanks everyone for your thoughtful replies! The general sentiment that I already knew what I had to do was correct, and I broke things off with him a few days ago. I''m glad I did it now instead of letting another 2 years pass with the same outcome. Your posts really helped enforce that I was making the right decision so thanks again!
I''m sure it wasn''t easy, although you''re very right that it''s easier to do now than 2 years from now. I think you made the right decision, and I hope you''re doing ok.
 
Date: 6/1/2008 1:59:51 PM
Author: Ilasa
Thanks everyone for your thoughtful replies! The general sentiment that I already knew what I had to do was correct, and I broke things off with him a few days ago. I''m glad I did it now instead of letting another 2 years pass with the same outcome. Your posts really helped enforce that I was making the right decision so thanks again!

I''m happy that you made the right decision for you. It seems like several people on this board lately have decided it was time to quit waiting so you''re far from alone. I hope that you stick around...and post photos of your pretty ring you just bought for yourself!! Isn''t it great to treat yourself like that?
 
Date: 6/1/2008 1:59:51 PM
Author: Ilasa
Thanks everyone for your thoughtful replies! The general sentiment that I already knew what I had to do was correct, and I broke things off with him a few days ago. I''m glad I did it now instead of letting another 2 years pass with the same outcome. Your posts really helped enforce that I was making the right decision so thanks again!
I''m sure it wasn''t easy but I really think you did the right thing. I hope you decide to stick around anyway!
 
Now you can be the gem in some lucky man''s life
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