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Opinions on this 1.08 round diamond?

Heidibrooke

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I posted before, but I only included GIA report data. I would like opinions on the light return and brilliance of this diamond, based on data and trained eyes looking at the actual stone. It’s a True Hearts diamond by JA (upgrading). I want a lively diamond, doesn’t have to be the best (which this obviously isn’t). Price is $5920. I appreciate your thoughts and opinions.




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Maybe I should add these photos to my original post? It was about two weeks ago.
 
Did they say it was eye clean? The hearts/arrow image looks fine, but there is a lot going on in that plot for an SI stone. Some of that might reflect throughout the stone as it moves. Granted it will be the size of an eraser in person, but if you could ask a gemologist if the crystals and wisps are reflecting within the stone (effectively doubling/tripling the inclusions (visually))
 
Did they say it was eye clean? The hearts/arrow image looks fine, but there is a lot going on in that plot for an SI stone. Some of that might reflect throughout the stone as it moves. Granted it will be the size of an eraser in person, but if you could ask a gemologist if the crystals and wisps are reflecting within the stone (effectively doubling/tripling the inclusions (visually))

I’d prefer not to see the inclusions but more importantly, I don’t want them to interfere with the overall performance. I am told the diamond is eye clean, even the dark crystal on top. I definitely see what you’re saying about the inclusions having a tripling effect.
Thank you for taking the time to give me some tips and your opinion!
 
Would anyone care to comment on haziness? Do you see that in this diamond?

I’m told the black crystal on the table won’t be seen by the eye but I’m really wondering.

Is this diamond worth taking a look at in person?
 
Thanks for the help.
 
Thanks for the help.

It is a True Heart. While the cut quality is not the best of the best, I would be surprised to learn if the stone is hazy.
 
It is a True Heart. While the cut quality is not the best of the best, I would be surprised to learn if the stone is hazy.

Thank you, flyingpig. Someone mentioned it looked hazy and that made me wonder, since it does have clouds noted on the report and faint fluorescence. I’m learning, but in need of guidance. This will likely be my last diamond purchase. I appreciate your help! ☺️
Do you think the 80% depth will be a problem? Seems like 75% is more desirable?
 

How about this? If you are concerned about clarity. 10% more for a two clarity upgrade.
PA should be 40.6-40.9. ask for the report for CA. Can be a tad shallow.
 

How about this? If you are concerned about clarity. 10% more for a two clarity upgrade.
PA should be 40.6-40.9. ask for the report for CA. Can be a tad shallow.

Nice! Thank you for searching. I have the H&A coming but if the inclusions are visible, I will definitely give this one a try. Looks fabulous.
 

How about this? If you are concerned about clarity. 10% more for a two clarity upgrade.
PA should be 40.6-40.9. ask for the report for CA. Can be a tad shallow.

I got the report for that diamond. It scores .7 on HCA. I’m concerned it may be a bit dark. The diamond I traded in had a 55% table and scored a .9 and it appeared gray a lot but did have a lot of fire under certain lighting.

I’ve emailed JA again today. I already have the H&A on order and I truly would love to stick with that one if that black crystal on top isn’t visible. Do you think there’s a chance it won’t be visible since it’s only a 1.08? I’m really at the top of my budget already. The 1.07 will be roughly $700 more. I don’t want to be stupid though.
 

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I got the report for that diamond. It scores .7 on HCA. I’m concerned it may be a bit dark. The diamond I traded in had a 55% table and scored a .9 and it appeared gray a lot but did have a lot of fire under certain lighting.

I’ve emailed JA again today. I already have the H&A on order and I truly would love to stick with that one if that black crystal on top isn’t visible. Do you think there’s a chance it won’t be visible since it’s only a 1.08? I’m really at the top of my budget already. The 1.07 will be roughly $700 more. I don’t want to be stupid though.

Since you’re asking, you are paying a premium for a True Hearts brand that isn’t a true H&A, as compared to super ideals members recognize here. @flyingpig ‘s recommendation is a superb stone and I would jump at the opportunity to upgrade clarity by two levels for that amount if it were me. If this upgrade will become your forever stone, the price difference is negligible over time.

That said, budgets exist for a reason and if it’s too far of a stretch, it’s worth viewing the stone you have on order.
 
If 6k is the max you are willing to spend, stick with it. As I said before, the stone is a good deal below 6k.
JA has good return policy. If you do not like the TH, come back here and we can find another together
 
Since you’re asking, you are paying a premium for a True Hearts brand that isn’t a true H&A, as compared to super ideals members recognize here. @flyingpig ‘s recommendation is a superb stone and I would jump at the opportunity to upgrade clarity by two levels for that amount if it were me. If this upgrade will become your forever stone, the price difference is negligible over time.

That said, budgets exist for a reason and if it’s too far of a stretch, it’s worth viewing the stone you have on order.

That makes perfect sense to me. I’ve placed the stone flyingpig suggested on hold. Do you feel the small table and HCA score of .7 will be an issue at all, with overall darkness/brightness? I’m so new to this. I hope I’m asking the right questions.
I truly appreciate your thoughts and the time you have taken to reply.
 
If 6k is the max you are willing to spend, stick with it. As I said before, the stone is a good deal below 6k.
JA has good return policy. If you do not like the TH, come back here and we can find another together

You are SO nice, thank you! I’m willing to make the stretch and pay $700 more if you feel the 1.07 is a more lively and sparkly diamond. I trust your judgment. I don’t trust my eyes, lol. Do you think that small table and .7 HCA score will cause the diamond to go dark more often? Also, I won’t be able to get an IS image on the this one. Is that ok?
 
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You are SO nice, thank you! I’m willing to make the stretch and pay $700 more if you feel the 1.07 is a more lively and sparkly diamond. I trust your judgment. I don’t trust my eyes, lol. Do you think that small table and .7 HCA score will cause the diamond to go dark more often? Also, I won’t be able to get an IS image on the this one. Is that ok?

34.5/40.6 is a relatively safer combo than 35/40.8 in regards to leakage. The video looks good and I do not see wonky pavilion. I think it is about equal to 35/40.8 in light return/leakage. It is always recommeded that you get the IS. But I would not recommend a stone that I would not buy or is not worth the risk, knowing you spent alot of time already. At the same time, it would be irresponsible for me to say that you do not need the IS. Gotta cover my ass.

The arrows in 34.5/40.6 will stay darker and act more as contrast than 35/40.8 in many cases. To light those arrows, you need to increase the viewing distance or view the diamond in a slight angle. Now, we are still talking within the ideal ranges. Both are good. Some prefer the shallow PA while others like the steeper PA.

I was not going to mention this. But the TH is graded more than 1yr ago, whereas the VS1 is recently graded. For me, this is important. You have no idea what the TH went thru for the last 21 months.
 
You are SO nice, thank you! I’m willing to make the stretch and pay $700 more if you feel the 1.07 is a more lively and sparkly diamond. I trust your judgment. I don’t trust my eyes, lol. Do you think that small table and .7 HCA score will cause the diamond to go dark more often? Also, I won’t be able to get an IS image on the this one. Is that ok?

With GIA rounding and averaging there are no guarantees, but FWIW my e-ring diamond has similar specs as the 1.07ct recommended by @flyingpig , including a 34.5/40.6 combo, and it does not go dark.
 
If 6k is the max you are willing to spend, stick with it. As I said before, the stone is a good deal below 6k.
JA has good return policy. If you do not like the TH, come back here and we can find another together
34.5/40.6 is a relatively safer combo than 35/40.8 in regards to leakage. The video looks good and I do not see wonky pavilion. I think it is about equal to 35/40.8 in light return/leakage. It is always recommeded that you get the IS. But I would not recommend a stone that I would not buy or is not worth the risk, knowing you spent alot of time already. At the same time, it would be irresponsible for me to say that you do not need the IS. Gotta cover my ass.

The arrows in 34.5/40.6 will stay darker and act more as contrast than 35/40.8 in many cases. To light those arrows, you need to increase the viewing distance or view the diamond in a slight angle. Now, we are still talking within the ideal ranges. Both are good. Some prefer the shallow PA while others like the steeper PA.

I was not going to mention this. But the TH is graded more than 1yr ago, whereas the VS1 is recently graded. For me, this is important. You have no idea what the TH went thru for the last 21 months.

I so appreciate all this information. You have been so helpful and so giving of your time and knowledge. I’ve spoken to JA twice today and I’m waiting to hear from the rep that is handling my upgrade. I won’t be able to obtain an IS on the 1.07 from them. One rep said the 1.07 was the better diamond and one rep said visually, I won’t see a difference between the two. It comes down to value and what puts my mind at ease. I have the hardest times making decisions. So thank you so much for your help.
 
With GIA rounding and averaging there are no guarantees, but FWIW my e-ring diamond has similar specs as the 1.07ct recommended by @flyingpig , including a 34.5/40.6 combo, and it does not go dark.

That’s very good to know! Thank you!
 
So, this 1.08 is already in production. So, I will take a look at it in real life. They have a very fair 30 day return policy. Can anyone comment on the transparency of this 1.08 diamond? From what I’ve read, clouds (pinpoints) or graining can cause a cloudy appearance. However, typically it’s only a major red flag when an SI1 is otherwise clean and the grading factor is based upon a cloud. That was the case in a diamond I had in 2016 and returned. I didn’t know why it wasn’t completely transparent but looking back, and seeing that the SI1 grading was based solely on a cloud, it makes sense.
This particular diamond appears to be transparent, at least to my aging eyes. Would anyone else like to take a look for me?
I have triple verified that the diamond is eye clean.
 
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