Opinions on this fancy yellow heart-shaped diamond ring

[Groovy Chick]

Wow it's been a while! Like, a decade lol. Anyway, I know a reasonable amount about diamonds (4 Cs etc) but just wanted opinions on this BEFORE I spend the money. I've attached the diamond report, which is done by an independent diamond appraisal company. I'm mostly concerned about the "natural cavities".

It's a right-hand ring, not engagement. Visually, I am in love with the ring. The center diamond is 1.6 carats, and I really like the color and shape. It's stunning, even though it's only 'very good' and not the desirable 'excellent' for polish, symmetry etc. I know it's not a perfect diamond, but this ring is a pretty good price and is on sale. But feel free to sock it to me e.g., "I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot barge pole" vs "If you love it, go for it." because I have no idea if I'm being a dazzled idiot or not. Thank you!

 

[foxinsox]

Without knowing price I can only go by what you say about it and if you love it, you should buy it!
I think it’s really pretty and would buy it if the price was right.

 

[kenny]

I would not buy a Fancy Colored Diamond that does not have a grading report from GIA itself.
Too risky.

You don't know if the price is good if you are not sure of what it is.
Without a GIA report you can be not sure of what it is.

Nearly always sellers know what they have.
They hope the buyer doesn't know very much.
Buyer beware.

If the FCD really is the grades that the seller claims, they would send it to GIA to justify the correct price.
Often when they sent it to a lesser lab the grades are better than what GIA would have given, and it seems like a bargain.

 

[chrono]

I would not buy any FCD that cost more than $500 without a GIA report. Reasons are the same as Kenny's.

 

[Ionysis]

It’s hard to tell from the photo but I see more of a brown modifier in there. Agree with the others about grading reports. It’s a very pretty ring though. And if it’s a bargain, even in a worst case scenario with grading, or you can afford it and just want it, your considerations may be different.

 

[MsShnooks]

To me it looks more of a brownish yellow than orange. I wouldn’t find that particularly attractive myself but if you love the colour and the style of the ring, then it’s worth considering. However, I’d also expect a GIA report to spend a bit of money on a diamond.

 

[lovedogs]

I agree with others that I would want a reptuable lab report before spending $$ on a colored diamond. I also don't read that as "yellow". I see more brown than yellow.

 

[lovedogs]

Granted I have no idea how much the one you are considering costs, but just some examples of yellow heart rings that I prefer:

1.01ct Yellow SI1 Heart Diamond Ring

This is a lovely 1.01ct Fancy Light Yellow SI1 Heart Shape Diamond Halo Ring. The ring is hand forged with colorless diamonds.

www.diamondsbylauren.com

1.54ct U-V VS1 Heart Diamond Ring

This is a great 1.54ct U-V VS1 Heart Shape Diamond Ring. It looks amazing in the rose gold and pink diamonds. A hidden yellow underhalo too.

www.diamondsbylauren.com

0.79ct Yellow SI2 Heart Diamond Ring

This is a beautiful 0.79ct Fancy Yellow SI2 Heart Shape Diamond Ring. We set this into a beautiful hand forged split shank ring.

www.diamondsbylauren.com

Fancy Light Yellow Heart Shape Diamond 3 Stone Ring, SKU 374699 (0.94Ct TW)

With the subtle hues of a summer sun...a Fancy Light Yellow Heart shape diamond ring, with the center stone weighing 0.73cts and certified by GIA. The ring is mounted in 18K Yellow and White gold, with two collection colorless taper baguette diamonds flanking the Heart shape diamond on each...

www.leibish.com

Leibish has a ton of yellow heart diamonds that are much more "pure" yellow without the brown modifier and they also have great settings.

 

[goldnsilver]

I hadn't been wowed by any yellow diamond pieces for a while, but fell in love with this as soon as I scrolled down to the picture. I think it's gorgeous and has a fancy Belle Époque look from what I can see in the one photo. And personally I prefer bezel settings for heart shaped gemstones, as they just frame the stones and preserve the heart shape better than prongs to me, so this was a delight to see.

However I'd also be concerned over the lack of a GIA report and the mention of cavities. Are you seeing the ring in person and can you inspect where the defects are? And is the setting well made and enjoyable from all angles? I love the design and I think it needs top notch workmanship to match it.

Can't say for sure with one photo, but I think the softer yellow of the diamond goes well with the gold ring shank.

 

[monipod]

I got a little excited reading 'orange' but as others have said, I am seeing enough brown that it's encroaching into my personal 'no go' zone where Fancy Yellows are concerned. I like my paler yellows and canary yellows but naturally they are more expensive. It's not a horrible stone at all but I'd get it certified properly so you are only paying what it's worth.

 

[FL_runner]

I think it’s really pretty ring design and it looks like good workmanship- but agree that it looks more brown-yellow and would want a cert.

 

[Dancing Fire]

No GIA color report = no go!

 

[Snowdrop13]

It’s a really pretty ring but I’m sure you could recreate it yourself, there are plenty of online sources for coloured diamonds and it looks like the sort of style David Klass could manage with ease!

 

[Groovy Chick]

Thanks so much everyone. I should have thought to say I'm in New Zealand so it wouldn't be practical for the seller to get a GIA cert as it would have to be sent to the US I believe. It's definitely a reputable jeweller who I trust.

Yes, I've seen the ring in person, but it is a wee bit browner than I would like, as some of you have noticed. I think you're right that the lab that graded it has been a bit too generous calling it 'orange yellow'. I think I'll go back and have another look and see how I feel, but I might wait until I can afford to get a nice light yellow diamond instead—they really are magical. I just really like buying a ring and not having to fluff around having it made etc. Call me lazy lol. I might try to post more pictures later.

I would mention the price, but it's impossible for you guys to assess because diamonds are WAY more expensive in New Zealand than in the US.

 

[MsShnooks]

Slightly off topic, but diamonds from around the world get certified by the GIA as it’s the most respected lab in the world + there’s quite a premium the jeweller can charge for a GIA certified stone vs a non-certified one. It gives the buyer peace of mind that they know what they’re buying and this diamond being called ‘orange’ would make me wary of the seller.

 

[maryjane04]

I would mention the price, but it's impossible for you guys to assess because diamonds are WAY more expensive in New Zealand than in the US.

Sometimes it works out cheaper to have this recreated in the US and shipped over to you. I'm an Aussie and the prices here are ridiculous as well. I follow Alex Park on instagram of Parks Fine group and he has really nice coloured diamonds for very reasonable prices even with the conversion rates and taxes. Just another option even though it's more work it saves money lol.

 

[lovedogs]

Sometimes it works out cheaper to have this recreated in the US and shipped over to you. I'm an Aussie and the prices here are ridiculous as well. I follow Alex Park on instagram of Parks Fine group and he has really nice coloured diamonds for very reasonable prices even with the conversion rates and taxes. Just another option even though it's more work it saves money lol.

Honestly my guess is that it would be cheaper to do this or to buy a ready to go ring from Leibish or Diamonds by Lauren. Even with import fees it sounds like it might save $$ since diamonds are so overpriced in AUS.

Also, people around the world gets diamonds certified by GIA/AGS, other.

 

[Mreader]

Maybe it’s just the photo, but when I saw the picture I thought it was a yellow sapphire or a different gem because the faceting doesn’t have that radiant look that many fancy yellows are known for. I would spend some time looking around more before making a decision!

 

[kenny]

... I follow Alex Park on instagram of Parks Fine group and he has really nice coloured diamonds for very reasonable prices even with the conversion rates and taxes. ...

My google search did not find a website for Parks Fine Group.
Being a bit of a collector I'm interested in FCD vendors.
Do you have a link to his/her website?

 

[toki]

My google search did not find a website for Parks Fine Group.
Being a bit of a collector I'm interested in FCD vendors.
Do you have a link to his/her website?

Search for parksfinegroupinc on instagram. I don't think he has a website.

 

[maryjane04]

My google search did not find a website for Parks Fine Group.
Being a bit of a collector I'm interested in FCD vendors.
Do you have a link to his/her website?

Search for parksfinegroupinc on instagram. I don't think he has a website.

Yeah he doesn't have a website. Everything is posted on his instagram account https://instagram.com/parksfinegroupinc?igshid=mr6pqo40fp90

 

[kenny]

Search for parksfinegroupinc on instagram. I don't think he has a website.

I don't have an account on FB, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, or TikTok, etc.
I don't like those things and won't play.
I won't pay for a smartphone or a data plan either.




Please someone, do me a favor.
Search his FCDs.
Do they have grading reports from GIA stating the material and color is both of natural origin?
Most FCD vendors don't.

If not, one can not claim he has "good prices for colored diamonds".

The only way to know how good an FCD's price is, is to know what the FCD is.
Without a GIA report there is no way to know what it really is.

That's all.

I realize I'm alone on planet earth on this, but I won't open my wallet for a vendor with no website.

 

[maryjane04]

I don't have an account on FB, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, or TikTok, etc.



Please someone, do me a favor.
Search his FCDs.
Do they have grading reports from GIA stating the material and color is both of natural origin?

If not, one can not claim he has "good prices for colored diamonds".

The only way to know how good an FCD's price is, is to know what the FCD is.
Without a GIA report there is no way to know what it really is.

That's all.

I realize I'm alone on planet earth on this, but I won't open my wallet for a vendor with no website.

Since you don't have social media I'll post a few examples.. all of his diamonds have a GIA cert unless stated otherwise.

 

[kenny]

Thanks.

 

[Groovy Chick]

Maybe it’s just the photo, but when I saw the picture I thought it was a yellow sapphire or a different gem because the faceting doesn’t have that radiant look that many fancy yellows are known for. I would spend some time looking around more before making a decision!

Yeah, I do love that radiant look you are talking about. I just can't spend a lot of money at this point because last year I bought three rings plus upgraded my e-ring. I shouldn't even be considering this ring, but it is REALLY pretty and unique, and it is on sale with a whopping 35% off. I also don't want to buy online because it makes me nervous and I've been through enough diamond-drama for one lifetime. I just want the simplicity of see-a-ring-buy-a-ring.

This discussion has actually been really helpful. I will go back to the store and look again and see how I feel.

 

[La2020]

From my screen, it looks like a greenish, browish, golden yellow FCD. Different monitor screen looks differently.

I agree that it is pretty and unique. Follow your heart...GIA report or not, as long as you love the stone...and that is what it matters.

 

[Snowdrop13]

I don't have an account on FB, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, or TikTok, etc.
I don't like those things and won't play.
I won't pay for a smartphone or a data plan either.




Please someone, do me a favor.
Search his FCDs.
Do they have grading reports from GIA stating the material and color is both of natural origin?
Most FCD vendors don't.

If not, one can not claim he has "good prices for colored diamonds".

The only way to know how good an FCD's price is, is to know what the FCD is.
Without a GIA report there is no way to know what it really is.

That's all.

I realize I'm alone on planet earth on this, but I won't open my wallet for a vendor with no website.

You can be a lot more anonymous on IG than anywhere else, imho, I have a private account, never post anything and use it only for looking at blingy eye candy and some local shops. It’s very soothing, actually.

 

[Groovy Chick]

Just want to thank everyone for your opinions. This thread has been incredibly helpful. I've decided NOT to purchase this ring at this point in time. It's a gorgeous ring, but I'm going to look around some more.

 

[foxinsox]

Hey @Groovy Chick, I’m in NZ too. Can you share the vendor? I assume it’s not Michael Hill or that sort of mall jeweller?

 

[monipod]

I realize I'm alone on planet earth on this, but I won't open my wallet for a vendor with no website.

I totally get where you're coming from but Alex has that many people willing to buy via Instagram that there's no point in having a website. I think he's too busy to set one up and even if he did, the inventory gets sold on Instagram well before he'd have a chance to load it up on a website for show. He's a very unique vendor I have to say, but for anyone else, I agree that a website is reassuring.

@Groovy Chick - Good decision. It's actually really is a very pretty ring and it's a shame that the centre stone isn't the right yellow (though I hazard to guess it wouldn't be for sale, if so) but as someone else said, it's not showing a lot of diamond dazzle and I would believe it if you told me it was a gemstone. I hope you find something just right when you have some funds again.