Original eRing needs a new CS Stone

[radiantbeauty]

Hi PS! I really need your help in choosing a stone for my original erring. I recently removed a 5.0 carat radiant stone with measurements of 9.46 x 9.17 and placed it in another setting. I am looking for input on what type of CS best suite the setting. I would like for the stone to sparkle as close to a diamond as possible. I think a round shaped stone would look best in the setting, although I am open to other shapes.

I am also open to modifying the setting slightly to accommodate the new stone. It is extremely important to maintain the same characteristics of the setting as it is now as it holds a lot of sentimental value. I would lower the center stone a little – and still allow the floating affect. I would also modify the prongs to a double claw prong setting. If you have any other suggestions on how to make the setting more delicate without changing the style of it, please share!

I will be wearing the ring daily.

My questions for the CS stone:

What shape?
What color?
What type of cut?
What mm size stone should I use?

Who would be the best vendor to achieve maximum sparkle and brilliance on the stone? I do not want a stone that has a disco ball look to it.

Anything I should I be aware of or look for?

If you can photo shop a stone you’re thinking of with the pictures provided, please do! Visuals would be awesome!

I have attached pictures to show the ring with and without the center stone

 

[radiantbeauty]

With the previous stone

 

[radiantbeauty]

With the stone removed.....

 

[royalstarrynight]

A stone with a high RI factor will give you the shine and shimmer close to a diamond and a stone with a MOH above 8 will allow daily wear.

Are you sure a jeweler can make double claws easily with your setting?

Nevertheless, cool setting!

A lot of the questions you're asking are very personal especially regarding color and these are things you need to decide for yourself either by flipping through the threads or visiting a store. You should find a stone close to the stats of your original stone. You might be able to have some wiggle room + or - 2 mm.

There are a lot of great vendors and I would recommend looking at the respected/recommended vendor's list posted above. It's all personal preference as they all have different styles.

I would also recommend reading [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/new-to-coloured-gemstone-buying-read-this-first.174284/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/new-to-coloured-gemstone-buying-read-this-first.174284/[/URL] if you're new to colored stone purchases. Good luck!

 

[distracts]

That's plus or minus 0.2mm, not 2 whole mm. With a round, you'd be looking for a diameter of around 13.2mm.

 

[royalstarrynight]

Whoops. Thanks Distracts for correcting by the order of magnitude of 10!

 

[chrono]

I would first confirm with your jeweller as to whether you can modify the prongs to split them and also lower it. I am doubtful because of the melees in the prongs. This style of prongs also make it a tight fit for the stone so you'll have less leeway in shape and sizes that fit.

 

[JewelFreak]

That's an imposing setting, very pretty. Do you have a jeweler whom you trust to do the work? It might be a good idea to ask first how much modification can be done to the setting -- then you'll know whether you should stick to the same shape & size stone, or if you can look for other shapes. Lowering the stone, for instance, might not be real feasible -- but somebody with more setting experience can correct me if I'm wrong.

What is your budget for the gem? For work on the mounting?

What colors do you wear most often? What colors do you love? Start there. No other gems sparkle like diamonds, but colored stones give you other delights. If you want diamond sparkle & color, have you considered FCDs?

For daily wear otherwise, unless you're very easy on rings, corundum or spinel are your best bets. You can get more sparkle from other varieties, but they won't stand up as well to everyday use. If you can make it to a gem show or even a museum with gems, try to see as many as you can -- you may fall in love with a type.

Good luck!

--- Laurie

 

[Lisa Loves Shiny]

That's an imposing setting, very pretty. Do you have a jeweler whom you trust to do the work? It might be a good idea to ask first how much modification can be done to the setting -- then you'll know whether you should stick to the same shape & size stone, or if you can look for other shapes. Lowering the stone, for instance, might not be real feasible -- but somebody with more setting experience can correct me if I'm wrong.

What is your budget for the gem? For work on the mounting?

What colors do you wear most often? What colors do you love? Start there. No other gems sparkle like diamonds, but colored stones give you other delights. If you want diamond sparkle & color, have you considered FCDs?

For daily wear otherwise, unless you're very easy on rings, corundum or spinel are your best bets. You can get more sparkle from other varieties, but they won't stand up as well to everyday use. If you can make it to a gem show or even a museum with gems, try to see as many as you can -- you may fall in love with a type.

Good luck!

--- Laurie

I agree with everything Laurie said but would like to add that Chrysoberyl would be another lively, and durable stone to consider.

 

[davi_el_mejor]

Color and sparkles like a diamond? Why not a colored diamond?

http://www.fancydiamonds.net/view_diamonds/13423.htm

 

[radiantbeauty]

A stone with a high RI factor will give you the shine and shimmer close to a diamond and a stone with a MOH above 8 will allow daily wear.

Are you sure a jeweler can make double claws easily with your setting?

Nevertheless, cool setting!

A lot of the questions you're asking are very personal especially regarding color and these are things you need to decide for yourself either by flipping through the threads or visiting a store. You should find a stone close to the stats of your original stone. You might be able to have some wiggle room + or - 2 mm.

There are a lot of great vendors and I would recommend looking at the respected/recommended vendor's list posted above. It's all personal preference as they all have different styles.

I would also recommend reading [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/new-to-coloured-gemstone-buying-read-this-first.174284/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/new-to-coloured-gemstone-buying-read-this-first.174284/[/URL] if you're new to colored stone purchases. Good luck!

Thank you for the compliment on the setting! I actually saw my jeweler yesterday and he did say there was enough metal in the setting to split it to create the claw setting and did not think it would look odd. I will work on finalizing the prong setting towards the close of the project.

He did say that by lowering the stone, the lowest mm stone would be 8.5-9.0. He suggested either a moissanite or white sapphire. Since I do not want a man made stone in the setting, he offered to pick out a white sapphire while out at the diamond conference this weekend for me to look at when he gets back next week.

I did see other CS stones and while they were clear and pretty, it did not sparkle quite like a diamond. In the meantime, I will make contact with Jeff White and see what he recommends as well.

And thanks for the link as well. I have started reading that and it is very helpful.

 

[radiantbeauty]

I would first confirm with your jeweller as to whether you can modify the prongs to split them and also lower it. I am doubtful because of the melees in the prongs. This style of prongs also make it a tight fit for the stone so you'll have less leeway in shape and sizes that fit.

I did check with the jeweler and he said that there was enough metal to split it to make the prongs. He would have to remove the top stones in order to make that happen.

I will finalize the prong setting when we get closer to finalizing the project.

 

[chrono]

A white sapphire doesn't even come close to a diamond either; it just stays white.

 

[radiantbeauty]

A white sapphire doesn't even come close to a diamond either; it just stays white.

That's what I'm learning. I sent out a message to Jeff White so I am hoping he will come back with some great options for me for the setting.

 

[chrono]

The following are not durable enough for everyday wear but have much better sparkle than a white sapphire.
White zircon
White spinel
Danburite

 

[radiantbeauty]

WF just sent me this company for natural sapphires...

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/

For a sunshiny yellow, what do you think of these two stones:

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/Sapphires/Yellow/Y2714/Radiant/stoneid=Y2714

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/Sapphires/Yellow/Y2940/Radiant/stoneid=Y2940

Do you think this would be a good site to find a stone? How do the certs look?

 

[chrono]

Let's just say NSC has mixed review in CS, more negative than positive although it could be that the negative reviewers tend to be more outspoken. Again, I caution you that nobody is going to mistake these for a yellow diamond. They will sparkle only yellow; you will not see the rainbow sparkle of a yellow FCD where you will see some green, red and blue fire.

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/Sapphires/Yellow/Y2714/Radiant/stoneid=Y2714
I would confirm if this sapphire is truly eye clean. The website called it VVS2 but I am doubtful. Colouration is quite pale (not sunshiny) and very deep at 77% depth, meaning you are paying for a 5 ct sapphire but it looks like a 4 carat sapphire. The cut is quite nice looking though. The "lab report" has been generated by NSC themselves. I would much prefer an independent third party such as
GIA or AGL verify that the sapphire is untreated.

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/Sapphires/Yellow/Y2940/Radiant/stoneid=Y2940
Cleaner looking sapphire with better colouration. Cut is a bit wonky from the profile though so the bench has to be creative. If the girdle is set evenly, the table is sloping downwards. If the table is set straight, then the table will be sloping. Super deep at 80% depth so this 5 ct sapphire will look like a 4 ct sapphire. This one has a GIA report, so that's good. However, it doesn't look vivid in the video, not on the GIA lab report.