Padparadcha sapphire

[Marshius Maximus]

I bought 2 padparadcha stones. One is certified, the small one is not. Any thoughts? Is it real, and does it have too much color to be a good quality padparadcha?

 

[JackTrick]

are these photos taken from the bottoms?

 

[Marshius Maximus]

are these photos taken from the bottoms?

Yes. I'll try to upload the tips now.

 

[Marshius Maximus]

Tops*

 

[Marshius Maximus]

Best image i can get of the stone 8n question. Please help me.

 

[Rfisher]

Your question is if it is too saturated to be considered Padparadscha?

Different labs accept different parameters of multiple aspects of what constitutes a Pad and what doesn’t.

My opinion is that the color that’s represented on my monitor is a bigger consideration here than the saturation is.
But what you see to your naked eye may not be represented well at all on my monitor. I see no pink at all.
No way at all to address the ‘is it real?’ at all.

 

[Marshius Maximus]

I see no pink either. More of an orange/red color. I'm thinking a dark color pad. Orange pad is a thing, but I think not very valuable.

 

[Marshius Maximus]

I see no pink either. More of an orange/red color. I'm thinking a dark color pad. Orange pad is a thing, but I think not very valuable.

 

[Marshius Maximus]

I'm new at this, but this looks most like my stone.

 

[Marshius Maximus]

Your question is if it is too saturated to be considered Padparadscha?

Different labs accept different parameters of multiple aspects of what constitutes a Pad and what doesn’t.

My opinion is that the color that’s represented on my monitor is a bigger consideration here than the saturation is.
But what you see to your naked eye may not be represented well at all on my monitor. I see no pink at all.
No way at all to address the ‘is it real?’ at all.

Mostly orange. It seems alot like sapphire to me. Maybe I'll try to scratch an emerald with it to be sure. Idk

 

[LilAlex]

I don't think "orange pad" is a thing in sapphire. "Orange" sure is. The ideal color for a pad is debatable but I have never seen a pale or deep orange stone referred to as a pad and I have never seen a definition of padparadscha so broad that it would cover pure orange. This is just regular ol' eBay sham nonsense -- sorry.

P.S. I would not go scratching emeralds to prove any points...

 

[lovedogs]

These dont look like pad color at all. I see orange, but zero pink. The smaller one looks like the same color as some spess garnets I've seen. But definitely not worth paying any premium for the "pad" designation. No trustworthy lab would give them that label.

The larger one looks like zircon to me.

 

[Marshius Maximus]

These dont look like pad color at all. I see orange, but zero pink. The smaller one looks like the same color as some spess garnets I've seen. But definitely not worth paying any premium for the "pad" designation. No trustworthy lab would give them that label.

The larger one looks like zircon to me.

The larger one does have a cert from the GIT, but not the right color. I didn't pay that much for these so no big deal. Thank you.

 

[Marshius Maximus]

I don't think "orange pad" is a thing in sapphire. "Orange" sure is. The ideal color for a pad is debatable but I have never seen a pale or deep orange stone referred to as a pad and I have never seen a definition of padparadscha so broad that it would cover pure orange. This is just regular ol' eBay sham nonsense -- sorry.

P.S. I would not go scratching emeralds to prove any points...

I wouldn't actually scratch my emeralds. Lol. I'm pretty sure it was an orange sapphire and I gave it to a friend of mine today anyway. And it was an ebay fake pad, but I paid $.80 for it so still a win.

 

[icy_jade]

Not a pad but if it’s really a sapphire, pure orange is a very rare color for sapphires.

 

[pokerface]

The smaller one is identical in coloration to many of the Songea beryllium-treated sapphires which remain readily on the market. Glad to hear you didn't overpay.

 

[Ionysis]

With that colour on the smaller one I would immediately think Beryllium treatment.

The larger one is very poorly cut as well. I wouldn’t designate either of them as a classic pad colour.

 

[Marshius Maximus]

I got new "padparadcha sapphire" in and "pink painite" "orange painite", and "paraiba tormaline" in. All with fake certificates. I actually spent decent money on these, and eventually got a refund. But could the stones be real even though the certs are not?

 

[lovedogs]

The stones might be real, but they arent going to be worth much and are likely heavily treated

 

[Marshius Maximus]

Well definitely have no real value, but really cool color if they are fake.

 

[Autumn in New England]

I follow the LMHC's narrow definition of padparadscha, but even using the broadest parameters, IMO, none of these stones is even in the stratosphere of being a pad. And beware of those intense orange colors like the smaller stone, as they're often diffused (or altogether synthetic). But fear not... pads are tricky even for the most seasoned collectors, and there's some trial and error involved.

P.S. Welcome to PS!