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Robin R. Gray
April 14, 1954 to June 1, 2005

Robin has missed her daughter Niki terribly since Niki passed away on February 1, 2005 due to a long term terminal illness which both she and Robin fought valiantly since Niki was diagnosed when she was five years old. The tragedy of Niki’s death was apparently impossible for Robin to overcome and she tragically ended her life while I was at work during the afternoon of Wednesday, June 1st exactly fifteen months to the day from Niki’s death. There are a lot of ways that I can think of to try and rationalize Robin’s actions, but the most accurate assessment is really that she and Niki were lifelong best friends who seemed more like sisters than mother and daughter to those who knew them best and it is apparent that the pain of Niki’s passing was outweighed by the pain that Robin felt over the loss of her friends and family who remained by her side… This is not to say that she did not cherish every one of us, but rather that the pain of Niki’s passing was simply more powerful and death became a viable solution, even if only for a moment, for ending that pain once and forever.


Funeral Services were held for Robin on Tuesday, June 7th at four o’clock in the afternoon at the 100F Historic Cemetery located on Douglas Street in Roseburg and I was simply stunned by the vast number of people who were in attendance. Flowers and such are not necessary, if you feel that you must do something then make a donation to something appropriate like The Jennifer Baker Fund which is a suicide survivors group here in Oregon that serves the community by providing suicide education services to schools and churches... Robin''s obituary can be found here for those who want to know a little more about her life.


Those of you who knew Robin well know that she loved life. She was also an extremely generous and unselfish person. Rarely serious… Always playful… Beautiful and young at heart… Most of us who were really close to her knew that she mourned Niki deeply, but even I did not realize the depths of her depression because she was so good at hiding her emotions. Many of the people I have spoken with are angry and that is a viable emotion. Many are sad which is also appropriate. Many feel that this was an extremely selfish act and I agree. However I remind everybody that this was the action of a person who was clearly suffering an agony which few of us can imagine or relate to, the death of a child who was also a life long best friend… The relationship that Robin and Niki shared ran far deeper than the traditional role of mother and daughter. I know that it must have been terribly difficult for Robin to end her life amidst all of the plans that we had been making and for as much as she cared for me. To that regard, I ask that you try to recognize her actions as an act of desperation to end a very deep pain and not as an act of selfishness because the person who did this is not the same Robin who we all knew and loved.


For those of you who are more than a little shaken or would like to understand more about what might cause a person to end their life or how to cope with the feelings that arise from being a survivor of suicide, download this document off of our web site www.niceice.com/SOS_handbook.pdf it is written by a man who lost his wife to suicide and it provides some interesting insight. If nothing else, it validated a lot of the feelings that I’ve had over the past two weeks and allowed me to experience them without guilt. I am surrounded by good friends and family and have recently begun to return to some of the daily business activities that require my attention and expect to return to normal business activities within a week or two.

Warmest Regards,

Todd


 
My deepest and most heartfelt condolences on the loss of Robin. Though I am sure that she and Niki are united in heaven, it is a terrible sadness for those left behind. I am so sorry.
 
My sincere condolences, Todd. I can only imagine how Robin felt when she lost Niki. (I remember Niki well; I sent her some postcards of my hometown in Connecticut while she was ill.) I am the mother of one daughter. If I were to lose her, the world would be bleak to the point of total darkness.

If you want to talk on the phone, please PM me and I will call you. Suicide is very hard for those left behind. You know that intellectually. Unfortunately, my profession has made me live through it with a number of people and their families.

I will hold you in the light.

Deborah
 
I am sorry for your tremendous losses......My thoughts and prayers are with you....please take care of yourself, and ask for help and support if/when you need it.....
My deepest sympathy..............
 
Todd:

I have yet to read any of the links you have embedded: I will get to them, but I felt that I must respond right away.

My heart goes out to you in ways that I am not sure you can understand.

My absolutely best freind in high school also committed suicide; and I almost followed him in my grief.

I agree with you that it was an act of desperation; so was Nick''s.

I will miss Robin''s cherefull antics; and I know that you will miss her much more and in more ways than I can ever know.

It took me a long time to adjust after Nick left us in high school. I know that you will recover faster just because of the resources that now exist and the fact that you can write so clearly about the situation at this point.

I am sure that many others on this site will also support you.

Let me know how I can help.

Perry
 
Todd,
You have my deepest sympathy in the loss of your beautiful Robin. I can''t even imagine your pain, loosing your precious Niki and now your best friend. You will be in my thoughts and my prayers. I am so very sorry.
 
Todd, I read a quote the other day that made me think of your situation.

"And so the mystery remains
that we have sorrow so we can understand joy;
failure so we can recognize success;
pain, so we can relish pleaure.

Somehow, built into the mystery
of this duality of life
is a blueprint for growth that has the potential
for shaping us into the people
who God wants us to be."

- Antoinette Bosco
 
Todd,

I''m so very sorry for your loss. Thank you for taking the time to share with us. And so with me.

Be sure to take good care of yourself, it''s quite important.

with warmest regards,
 
Todd,

My deepest condolences for your great loss. May God hold you in the palm of his hand while you grieve the loss of your beautiful wife. Although I did not know Robin personally, I exchanged emails with her over the course of a few months and I felt her presence. She is fondly remembered for the person that she was.
 
Please accept my heartfelt sympothies. While I know neither you nor your lost loved ones, you''ve taken the time to share such a personal tragedy. I''m positive they are in a better place. You have endured more than anyone should have to endure, I wish you well and hope that you are surrounded by friends and family to share their love and support.
 
Todd, I cannot find words to express my deepest emotions of sadness for you and your family. Although we have never met your words struck deep into my soul and I offer my sincere condolences to you.
 
Todd,

i am lost for words... my deepest condolences.. I''m so sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you and your family
 
Todd:

I have now reviewed the links in your posting (it takes about an hour to go through everything).

Thank you for sharing about your daughter Niki. I came on the scean after that. May you hold great memories of her - and of Robin forever.

I especially liked the links to the suicide organizations and must say that the SOS Handbook is really good. Boy do I wish something like that existed over 33 years ago. It is so right - in ways that you don''t know - and hopefully will never know.

So here is more of my story: Yes, my best freind committed suicide - and I almost did too the next day in my grief (and would have used the same technique).

However, I pulled out of that. But unfortunatly, the idea was planted in my brain...

About 5 years later I had worked myself into a mental prison and saw suicide as a viable option for ending the situtation. I had it all set up, and was ready to "do it" when in a final reflection I realized that there was another option to address my situation - one that I did not - really really did not- want to do (i.e. up to that point I had considered suicide as an easier out). But I decided to take that one option - knowing that if it did not work out that I could always suicide later.

The ending of course is clear. But it took me at least 5 years to even approach normal - and another 5 years to start living again.

The book is right - you never actually get over it - in some degree: but you can not only survive - but thrive in the future. I now look at both events. The suicide of my best freind - and my almost suicide - just part of the lessons of life that I had to learn to be who I am today.

I have my pleasant memories of my freind, things we did, places we went to. My one regret is that I became estranged with his sister at the time.

I feel that the biggest thing that healed me in the end was getting involved in a Positive Mental Attitude (PMA) based business mentoring group for a number of years.

Life can be great. I am not saying it will be the same. But it can be great again. It will take some time - but please take the time you need.

I know you will be able to recover much faster than I did. All I had was my own grief and the grief of my freinds. Even the teachers were shocked (and this was long before schools supplied grief counselors).

Peace

Perry
 
...''Love! Beyond measure--beyond death--it nearly kills. But one wouldn''t have been without it. Why?''

"Beyond" by John Galsworthy


You are in our thoughts, Todd. We hope time will be better healer for you than for Robin. Let her rest in peace.

Leonid and Irina
 
Todd.

My most heartfelt sympathies.

I remember how i felt when i was told My best mate had taken his own life aged just 12. I still remember Peter everyday.
 
I am at a loss for words.

Todd you, your family and Robin''s family will be in my prayers.
 
Todd,

A group of us learned of your loss at JCK. It was very hard to take in.
I know you received private communiqués. Our sentiments, hopes and prayers continue.

We all want to offer support, but never to intrude in someone’s private grief.
Your loss resonates here, even with those who never met her.
…Even in the remote worlds of your online acquaintances.

Bonds and relationships developed here become a ‘given’ in our minds.
We expect to see our peers online and to hear their voices at the other end of our phone calls.
We expect to see the diverse personalities, posting in their various fashions.
Each day we know we can enter this online world and be in familiar territory.
The passion and consistency of this community brings us comfort.
It is always here for us.

We can’t possibly imagine the sense of loss and change you must be feeling.
But please know that there are many here who weep for you.

We do not pretend to walk your path. We cannot share the intimate nature of your grief.
But we draw upon our own experiences – and we grieve for the pain we know you are in.

We know you as one of ‘us.’ We know you as someone we can count on in the community.
If and when it suits you, the community is here for you.

You can expect to see your peers online, and to hear our voices at the other end of your phone calls.
You can expect to see the diverse personalities, posting in their various fashions.
When you want to, you can log into your online world and be in familiar territory.
Our passion and our consistency will be here to bring you comfort.
We are always here for you.

Our collective thoughts and prayers continue for you and your loved ones.
 
Dear Todd:

I am so very sorry to hear of your loss. To lose both your daughter and your wife is so very cruel. I hope fond memories of your loved ones will bring you some comfort in the days to come. It is so hard to comprehend how devastating and final death is until you have walked that road. To lose a child must be the worst possible loss in the world. I feel deeply for both yourself and for Robin.

My deepest condolences,

Heather
 
I''m really sorry for both your losses. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers, and I hope you find peace.
 
Todd
my sincere condolences,thoughts are with you and your family.take good care of yourself through this tough time in life.
 
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. May God help you through this very difficult time.
 
Todd-

my deepest condolences to you for your losses.

Jen
 
HI:

This is a lot for two shoulders. Can I be of help? I am here, with condolences.

cheers--Sharon
 
Todd,

My heart and thoughts go out to you. It sounds as if you have started to find a way to understand and come to terms with what has happened. I hope you can continue to find the support and help you need in this difficult time. You had a wonderful family, who will always be with you in your heart and memories. That is something to cherish forever.
 
I am so sorry for all the heartbreak and upset you have had over the last 15 months. She was a really great lady, I didn''t know her well at all but it doesn''t take much to realize how great she was. I hope her pain is over and she can be with her Niki again.
 
Todd,

No words can express how deeply saddened I was to hear about Robin. Please add my thoughts and prayers to the countless others who admired both of you. I''m so sorry.
 
Todd, my thoughts and prayers to you and your family''s loss.
 
There are no words that can console you. Like everyone here, I keep you and your family in my prayers and ask that over time, God grants you peace.
 
You have my sympathy Todd. I remember following Robin''s posts about Niki back when I first joined these boards. What a tragedy for you to have lost Robin in addition to Niki. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.
 
My most sincerest condolences. My family said a prayer for you and your family tonight. It helps to remind us that we are all family, no matter where we live or who we are, we must continue to pray and support each other. I hope that you find continued peace and healing in this troubled time and that God will lift you and grant you peace in His love and grace and keep you safe in His arms, as I am sure that He is holding Robin and Niki now.


"Oh how quickly people pass through our lives,yet forever leave their footprints in the sand of our memories."
 
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