Please help me decide on a diamond choice

[Sally123]

Hi All

Please help me decide on 2 diamond options:
Option 1
GIA Certified ,round brilliant
Colour :G
Cut: excellent
Polish: very good
Symmetry: excellent
Clarity:SI2
Flouresence: medium blue

Option 2:
Colour:H
Cut: excellent
Polish: excellent
Symmetry: excellent
Clarity:VS2
Flouresence: none


Option 1 colour is cheaper than Option 2. Would a medium blue flouresence be ok with a colour G.

 

[Txborn79]

Hi All

Please help me decide on 2 diamond options:
Option 1
GIA Certified ,round brilliant
Colour :G
Cut: excellent
Polish: very good
Symmetry: excellent
Clarity:SI2
Flouresence: medium blue

Option 2:
Colour:H
Cut: excellent
Polish: excellent
Symmetry: excellent
Clarity:VS2
Flouresence: none


Option 1 colour is cheaper than Option 2. Would a medium blue flouresence be ok with a colour G.

Hard to give opinions without any pictures/videos and reports to see the angles. Excellent cut doesn’t really mean anything. What size are the diamonds and what are the inclusions in the SI2?

 

[ringo865]

Hi sally and welcome! We will need more than just those infos, if you have the GIA reports, or at least the table and depth percentage, and crown and pavilion angles. Also, if you wish, your budget and preferred specs.

“GIA excellent” encompasses a very wide range of cutting parameters, and only a narrowed-down number of those stones would actually score Ideal on AGS. Without numbers, we can’t help effectively.

 

[Sally123]

Hard to give opinions without any pictures/videos and reports to see the angles. Excellent cut doesn’t really mean anything. What size are the diamonds and what are the inclusions in the SI2?

Thank you for the response. See attached both GIA certificates

 

[Sally123]

Hi sally and welcome! We will need more than just those infos, if you have the GIA reports, or at least the table and depth percentage, and crown and pavilion angles. Also, if you wish, your budget and preferred specs.

“GIA excellent” encompasses a very wide range of cutting parameters, and only a narrowed-down number of those stones would actually score Ideal on AGS. Without numbers, we can’t help effectively.

Hi and thank you for the response. See attached GIA certificate.
the G colour is cheaper than the H colour. But just not sure about the medium blue flouresence.

 

[lovedogs]

Unfortunately neither of them are great in terms of cut. Are these your only 2 options ?

 

[Sally123]

How are you able to tell that? Even if the GIA certificate says execellent cut.

 

[Txborn79]

How are you able to tell that? Even if the GIA certificate says execellent cut.

Unfortunately GIA excellent isn’t always good. You can have a lot of light leakage which doesn’t return sparkle/fire, which is what you want a diamond to do. Even excellent cut can be dull and lifeless.

Run the two through the HCA and post the results https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

 

[Sally123]

Unfortunately neither of them are great in terms of cut. Are these your only 2 options ?

How are you able to tell they are not great in terms of cut?

 

[Sally123]

Unfortunately GIA excellent isn’t always good. You can have a lot of light leakage which doesn’t return sparkle/fire, which is what you want a diamond to do. Even excellent cut can be dull and lifeless.

Run the two through the HCA and post the results https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

I am not able to get the free the report from that site you sent.

 

[Txborn79]

I am not able to get the free the report from that site you sent.

This is the G

The H

You want to aim for a score of 2 or under, those are safest and worth considering

 

[Txborn79]

Are you attached to one vendor? Are you opposed to buying online?

 

[Sally123]

This is the G

The H

You want to aim for a score of 2 or under, those are safest and worth considering

thank you for the response, does that mean both are not really worth considering as it has a score of above 2. I do have another option and GIA certificate if you can get the score for me as well I will highly appreciate it

 

[Txborn79]

thank you for the response, does that mean both are not really worth considering as it has a score of above 2. I do have another option and GIA certificate if you can get the score for me as well I will highly appreciate it

This one is a little better, but I personally don’t consider anything unless the light return, fire and scintillation are excellent

 

[lovedogs]

In general, you want to stick to the following:

Table: 54-58
Depth: 60.5-62.4
Crown: 34-35 (35.5 can work with 40.6 pavillion)
Pavillion: 40.6-40.8 (41 can work with 34 crown)

 

[lovedogs]

This one is a little better, but I personally don’t consider anything unless the light return, fire and scintillation are excellent

I also wouldn't consider that one without an ASET or other light performance images because it is deeper than recommended with a steep crown angle.

 

[Sally123]

I also wouldn't consider that one without an ASET or other light performance images because it is deeper than recommended with a steep crown angle.

What does ASET mean?.

 

[Sally123]

This one is a little better, but I personally don’t consider anything unless the light return, fire and scintillation are excellent

thank you for the response, how do I find an excellent Light return, usually on the GIA certificate they don't mention those. Would the score of 2.3 be better then? Even though Option 2 clarity is VS2 and option 3 has a lower clarity of SI1.

 

[lovedogs]

thank you for the response, how do I find an excellent Light return, usually on the GIA certificate they don't mention those. Would the score of 2.3 be better then? Even though Option 2 clarity is VS2 and option 3 has a lower clarity of SI1.

They are talking about "Excellent" light return on the HCA calculator.

Yes, the score of 2.3 is much better.

What does ASET mean?.

An ASET is a tool to assess light performance of diamonds. https://yourdiamondguru.com/grading/aset/

 

[Sally123]

They are talking about "Excellent" light return on the HCA calculator.

Yes, the score of 2.3 is much better.



An ASET is a tool to assess light performance of diamonds. https://yourdiamondguru.com/grading/aset/

Thank you. Which option would you recommend then.

 

[tyty333]

thank you for the response, how do I find an excellent Light return, usually on the GIA certificate they don't mention those. Would the score of 2.3 be better then? Even though Option 2 clarity is VS2 and option 3 has a lower clarity of SI1.

Hi Sally,

The "cut" is the most important spec of a stone. If you dont have a well-cut stone that reflects light well then the color and
clarity dont really matter too much. GIA Excellent range is very broad and contains stones that really arent that well-cut.

If you stick to the numbers @lovedogs posted it will help you pick out a well-cut stone. If you have a low crown you need
a higher pavilion angle and vice versa.

I dont recommend any of the ones you listed.

If you give us your budget we can show you what you can get online. These would be well-cut stones.

 

[lovedogs]

Thank you. Which option would you recommend then.

To be honest I wouldn't recommend any of these. But if you are willing to let us know your budget and desired size, color, clarity then we can help you find alternatives.

 

[Sally123]

Hi Sally,

The "cut" is the most important spec of a stone. If you dont have a well-cut stone that reflects light well then the color and
clarity dont really matter too much. GIA Excellent range is very broad and contains stones that really arent that well-cut.

If you stick to the numbers @lovedogs posted it will help you pick out a well-cut stone. If you have a low crown you need
a higher pavilion angle and vice versa.

I dont recommend any of the ones you listed.

If you give us your budget we can show you what you can get online. These would be well-cut stones.

To be honest I wouldn't recommend any of these. But if you are willing to let us know your budget and desired size, color, clarity then we can help you find alternatives.

Colour G or H
Clarity VS2 or SI1 or SI2
Size: 0.9
Cut: excellent
Polish excellent
Symmetry:excellent
Flouresence: none

Also looking for a GIA certified diamond.

Budget is 3200usd dollars

 

[Dancing Fire]

Colour G or H
Clarity VS2 or SI1 or SI2
Size: 0.9
Cut: excellent
Polish excellent
Symmetry:excellent
Flouresence: none

Also looking for a GIA certified diamond.

Budget is 3200usd dollars

Not gonna happen with a $3200 budget. I'm guessing more like $4700. Here's a ACA H SI1 for $5100

Diamond | 0.902 ct H SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4361092

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.902 carat H color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4361092

www.whiteflash.com

 

[Txborn79]

Colour G or H
Clarity VS2 or SI1 or SI2
Size: 0.9
Cut: excellent
Polish excellent
Symmetry:excellent
Flouresence: none

Also looking for a GIA certified diamond.

Budget is 3200usd dollars

This budget will be hard to find something with those specs. If you drop down to .85 you can get a top notch diamond for ~$3600 and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between a .85 and a .90 https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4361923.htm

 

[lovedogs]

This budget will be hard to find something with those specs. If you drop down to .85 you can get a top notch diamond for ~$3600 and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between a .85 and a .90 https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4361923.htm

Other alternative would be to drop a bit in color since it's a sub 1ct stone.