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This group is so helpful, knowledgeable, and passionate. I hope you can help? Overwhelmed and have no idea how to sift through all the pear options I see online. If these were your parameters, what pears would you consider?

3 carat pear -- a little bigger ok

color sensitive -- I've read G and higher for this shape?

eye clean

no bowtie -- cannot tell as I see black spots on most online

great sparkle/brilliance

budget is mid $40s max $50k and hoping for a couple of options but can't tell difference

Thank you in advance if you can help. Appreciate this forum. So educational.
 
I'll post a few that I think may have potential. The ones with the best light return tend to be on the shorter side for their carat
weight and the rounded end looks more like a round brilliant.

Just a little pear info to start with...
Here is the link to this pear

The green areas are areas with good light return. These areas will most likely go dark in bright sunlight just like a round brilliant.
The tan areas I marked are like that is returned from virtual facets and would be considered the mushy areas of pears. Unfortunately, this is the nature of pears.
pear with markings.jpg

So, to find a really nice pair you want to minimize the "mushy" areas and look for pears where the green areas are extended more up
toward the rounded end as well as the pointed end. Can you see the difference between the nice facets that reflect light well and
the mushy facets that wont reflect light as well?
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This is so helpful! I appreciate this so much!
 
I also see in the first link it says strong fluorescence. Is that something to worry about? Again, thank you!
 
Ok, let me see if I can find some that might have potential. Videos are a necessity and ASET images are a plus.

The one from above

Unfortunately, overbudget...but nice


These would have been nice as far as light return but have too much junk going on the tables:(2

So, not finding much. The other thing you can do is talk to Diamonds by Lauren. He can help you find.
 
I'm not saying that the first pear posted is a good one. It IS a typical pear and I posted it for comparison with the second
pear that has much better light return.

With Strong or Very Strong Fluorescence you have to make sure that the fluorescence isn't causing a milky/oily look. We dont
see it that often but it does happen. Sometimes the combination of lots of twining wisps or pinpoints with fluorescence can
cause clarity issues. With Strong or Very Strong the stone may take on a blueish cast in bright sunlight. Some people dont
like this and some people think that fluorescence is a cool phenomenon. As long as it doesn't affect the stone adversely, then
I'm ok with it. The problem with pears (or any fancy cut), is the more you limit yourself with specific specs the harder it is going
to be to find a nice pear with good faceting/good light return (they are not like round brilliants).

I'll look around more today and see if I can find any others.
 
This is a pear with a 4 main faceting pattern on the pavilion (vs the typical 8 main). 4 mains, in general, have better light return
but it has a different look. I'll post one so you can see the difference in the faceting pattern. You can look at the clarity plot on
the GIA reports (pavilion side) to see how many "mains" a stone has.


BTW...when I initially post stones its from just viewing the pics/videos. When you find something you like then I dig deeper
and look at the GIA reports and other specs.
 
You are so helpful!

3.01 Carat G VS2 Pear Natural Diamond GIA Certified 6465554205 Excellent Cut - D53356729


www.adiamor.com
www.adiamor.com

I think I like this one. No ASET. They said no negative impact from fluorescence and minimal bowtie. Is minimal bowtie the ideal standard here? I noticed some lower clarity ones above say eye clean but you also mention junkier. Is that because of reflection and faceting too? Thanks for also educating me!
 
You are so helpful!

3.01 Carat G VS2 Pear Natural Diamond GIA Certified 6465554205 Excellent Cut - D53356729


www.adiamor.com
www.adiamor.com

I think I like this one. No ASET. They said no negative impact from fluorescence and minimal bowtie. Is minimal bowtie the ideal standard here? I noticed some lower clarity ones above say eye clean but you also mention junkier. Is that because of reflection and faceting too? Thanks for also educating me!

YUP @tyty333 is a PS treasure! HJ over. LOL
 
You are so helpful!

3.01 Carat G VS2 Pear Natural Diamond GIA Certified 6465554205 Excellent Cut - D53356729


www.adiamor.com
www.adiamor.com

I think I like this one. No ASET. They said no negative impact from fluorescence and minimal bowtie. Is minimal bowtie the ideal standard here? I noticed some lower clarity ones above say eye clean but you also mention junkier. Is that because of reflection and faceting too? Thanks for also educating me!
You have to check how far away the vendor is using for "eye-clean". Some use 10 inches. Most casual observers would find the stones
eye-clean at 10 inches but most of us view our stones at a lot closer distance (say 5 or 6 inches). So, it really depends on what you care
about. If 10 inches is good enough...that's your call. I prefer to see nothing (without using a loupe) but I dont own a stone as big as
you're looking for. Bigger stone makes it easier to see inclusions. Something usually has to give at these sizes...color, clarity...etc.

Bow-tie- So, I consider a bow-tie to be a dark area that goes through the stone. Some (most) consider it to be the change in
the faceting pattern when it goes outside of the two arrows that go through the center of "most" pears. It goes from an area
of strong light return (which is good) to an area of virtual facets that dont return light as well (we call these facets "mushy"...
they are virtual facets where the light has to bounce around more before it comes back out the top of the stone).

So...you want to maximize the amount of facets with good light return and minimize the facets with mushy light return.

Another way to think about it is that you want the rounded end of a pear to reflect light like a well-cut round brilliant.

Since you cant get an ASET image, make sure the vendor has a really good return policy (the stones I point out will). If the
stone doesn't behave the way you want make sure you can return for any reason at all...30 days is typical.

Also, have you looked at pears in person? Most jewelry stores have special lighting that could make a chunk of coal glitter.
So, when you order a stone online it will perform differently in your house than a stone you see at a jeweler with the
great lighting.


Yes, yes, yes! I think you've got it!


Here is a "H" (how do you feel about an H?) Not as nice as the one you posted but $36k. It is smaller though (length of 12.04)
vs. the one you posted is 12.58.

Also, here is a fun little tool where you can check out the virtual size of the stones. IMO, stones look smaller in real life
than they do in 2D space. You can adjust the finger size, length, and band size.

 
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