question for setting heated /irradiated stones

[snuapril01]

hello, everyone. so I have been wondering about this for a while, and I am a fan of turquoise/ teal color in general and I''d really love to have some rings custom made in london blue topaz and blue zircon.

i did find some settings I want to use but now I am wondering if I can set the stones in the settings without risking the color change when i buy the loose gem stones separately.
do the jewelers need to use heat or torch to set the stone in?

i also have one irradiated blue diamond ring i want to re size, and one jeweler told me that he wouldn''t want to risk the color change of the stone when he uses the torch, so i need to find some one who is specialized in dealing with irradiated diamonds.
is this true? cause in my mind i don''t understand why this stone would be on any different case than irradiated topaz like london blue, and i could see that he had some london blue topaz pieces.

i am attaching the pic for my irradiated blue diamond ring here, since it seems to entertain people when there''s pics in these postings.

 

[vsol]

Depends on the setting, I believe. Simple prong settings shouldn''t require any heat unless you want to form the prongs to the stone. Bezel might require some heat but I couldn''t imagine it would affect a diamond color...

Gorgeous blue diamond though! If a jeweler doesn''t want to mess with it I wouldn''t blame him.

 

[Michael_E]

Date: 4/12/2010 9:12:58 AM
Author:snuapril01


do the jewelers need to use heat or torch to set the stone in?

No, never. All setting styles are done without using heat since very many stones would be damaged with the use of heat.

I also have one irradiated blue diamond ring i want to re size, and one jeweler told me that he wouldn't want to risk the color change of the stone when he uses the torch, so i need to find some one who is specialized in dealing with irradiated diamonds.

is this true?

No. I can not imagine a scenario, (with a competent bench person), where any diamond center stone could be damaged by the heat from sizing. Even in sizing something requiring as much heat as platinum, the torch is never played in the direction of the center stone and so the only heat which can reach the center stone comes from that which is transmitted through the setting. This heat is minimal and is only a concern with extremely heat sensitive stones like opal. Just FYI, sizing platinum in close proximity to any side stones can be nearly impossible with a torch and often requires the use of laser welding in order to reduce any risk to side stones.

 

[snuapril01]

hi, thanks for the replies~
i am getting more educated here!

to be fair the jeweler at the time did say, ''it probably would not change, but I would not want to risk it''

and later I asked another jeweler online, without showing her the specific ring, and she sort of agreed with him. so I ended up just leaving the ring as it is until now.
i guess I could try asking another jeweler.

my ring is made with 14k yellow gold and the band part is only about 2mm thick, so I don''t think it would require as much heat as something like platinum.

i need to find a good local jeweler. any recommendations?
i am in valencia 91355 CA . but I can drive around, and visit LA or pasadena/glendale/ burbank area time to time.

or... i should probably make another post for this question

 

[DistinctionJewelry]

Setting your stones will be a cold process; it''s done last after the ring is finished. Sizing is typically done with stones in, hence the heat concerns.