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Question for trades on soldering

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If you have a wedding band custom made to fit flush to an engagement ring wouldn't it be soldered to sit flush?

Picked mine up and it has a gap which leads me to believe it's soldered on the wrong side when I told them it only sits flush on one side.
 
I'm not in the trade. But I have no idea what you are trying to say. And I'm not sure anyone else will either.

Why don't you try that again.

What is the issue?

And pictures are always appreciated as they help illustrate issues.
 
Sounds like the solder joint made a bulge in just one area of the ring and now it doesn't fit flush against the e-ring. ? Or it's out of round on one side only?
 
Ok. I have an ering and had a wedding band custom made to sit against my ering which is a flush look. Picture attached of both together with no gap. Not soldered.

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I'll have to get a better picture of my rings that I picked up from jeweler that has a gap. So the jeweler soldered them but there's a gap between the rings.

The wedding band was molded to fit 1 side of my ering and the gap tells me it's soldered to the wrong side.

Let me get some coffee and I'll snap some pictures for you to see.
 
I tried to get the best picture to illustrate what I'm talking about but you can also see it's crooked.

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Here's another picture. I'm trying my best to get a good one but doesn't the soldering seem wrong?

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I think the gap is due to the rings not being soldered straight. The band needs to move over a bit to fit with the curves of the e-ring.

Why solder them together? Why not just wear them together ... more flexibility?

I simply can't imagine soldering my set together even though it sits flush.
 
Hi,
It seems what you have is a curved band which is a different concept then a fully fitted band.
Based on the size of the stones in the band it could not curve exactly to the shape of your engagement ring. Many people like this type of design precisely because it fits a little bit more loosely.

It seems that the rings are soldered at the bottom, which is the correct procedure. But, it does show a slight gap at the top – although I believe that would be unavoidable based on the design.
On the photos were you don't have it soldered together and it's it's closer on top, the bottom parts are probably separated by a little bit

About soldering the rings together: it's a very good idea for a lot of reasons. For one thing, when two rings are worn together and they are not attached, they will rub together and wear each other away over time.
Secondly, the two rings together will have more stability and strength and either one would individually.
But Charmy raises another good point- when the rings are soldered together you lose a bit of flexibility. Although, I don't know why someone would want to wear a curved wedding band on it's own.
 
I get what you're saying - the band should be soldered on the opposite side of the ering for a better fit, that's the side that was used to make the band - I think it's possible to unsolder rings, I would talk to your jeweler and see if it's possible in your case to unsolder and resolder to the other side. Are you sure about it being on the wrong side though? Would be a shame to go through all that and have the same result. But if you feel that's what's wrong I guess it's worth a shot.
 
junebug17|1398608237|3661178 said:
I get what you're saying - the band should be soldered on the opposite side of the ering for a better fit, that's the side that was used to make the band - I think it's possible to unsolder rings, I would talk to your jeweler and see if it's possible in your case to unsolder and resolder to the other side. Are you sure about it being on the wrong side though? Would be a shame to go through all that and have the same result. But if you feel that's what's wrong I guess it's worth a shot.


I'm almost positive it's on the wrong side because when they were unsoldered I would put my rings on wrong and I'd have the gap. I had the wedding band custom made because I don't like gaps. I like a flush look and this is bothering me, the gap and not aligned correctly. It looks like one side hangs over a bit. I'm going to the jewelers today to show the pictures of how they sat flush not soldered.

Thanks for letting me vent and get others views on what they see.
 
Since you are not happy with how it is done, may I suggest you go and talk with the jeweler and give him a chance to fix it for you? It is a simple procedure and will not cause him undue hardship.

If he does not want to do it to your satisfaction, you can also just ask him to remove the solder so that you can go to another jeweler and have it done to your satisfaction.

If he does not want to even do that for you then post on Yelp or Angie's List so that others will know of his inability to own his mistakes.

If he cheerfully does fix it or undo it, then be fair and post that he owned his mistake and made it right, which is in my opinion a very important quality in any craftsman that you deal with.

Please though, give him a chance to do it before posting any thing negative. While I agree that this does not look like the way it should, there are times when things can sneak past quality control and you may be surprised with how grateful your jeweler will be to have a chance to fix it.

Wink
 
DiamondsOnly|1398610898|3661196 said:
junebug17|1398608237|3661178 said:
I get what you're saying - the band should be soldered on the opposite side of the ering for a better fit, that's the side that was used to make the band - I think it's possible to unsolder rings, I would talk to your jeweler and see if it's possible in your case to unsolder and resolder to the other side. Are you sure about it being on the wrong side though? Would be a shame to go through all that and have the same result. But if you feel that's what's wrong I guess it's worth a shot.


I'm almost positive it's on the wrong side because when they were unsoldered I would put my rings on wrong and I'd have the gap. I had the wedding band custom made because I don't like gaps. I like a flush look and this is bothering me, the gap and not aligned correctly. It looks like one side hangs over a bit. I'm going to the jewelers today to show the pictures of how they sat flush not soldered.

Thanks for letting me vent and get others views on what they see.

I get you! I see what you're saying, especially in the last pic you posted - There's always a risk involved with having work done on settings, an argument could be made to leave well enough alone. But it does sound like it's really bugging you, and I've read here on PS where people have had rings unsoldered with not problem, so it's worth looking into. Please let us know what the jeweler's response is.

It might help if you post a pic of the bottom of the ring to show the soldering.

eta: just saw wink's response, was hoping trade members would respond, sounds like it's usually not a big deal to unsolder.
 
Wink|1398611049|3661197 said:
Since you are not happy with how it is done, may I suggest you go and talk with the jeweler and give him a chance to fix it for you? It is a simple procedure and will not cause him undue hardship.

If he does not want to do it to your satisfaction, you can also just ask him to remove the solder so that you can go to another jeweler and have it done to your satisfaction.

If he does not want to even do that for you then post on Yelp or Angie's List so that others will know of his inability to own his mistakes.

If he cheerfully does fix it or undo it, then be fair and post that he owned his mistake and made it right, which is in my opinion a very important quality in any craftsman that you deal with.

Please though, give him a chance to do it before posting any thing negative. While I agree that this does not look like the way it should, there are times when things can sneak past quality control and you may be surprised with how grateful your jeweler will be to have a chance to fix it.

Wink

I will definitely give them the opportunity to fix it. If he feels he can't then I'm going to take it to the jeweler that made my custom wedding band. The reason I took it to this place is because my e-ring is covered and all I had to pay was for the wedding band since it wasn't purchased at their store. I don't do reviews so I won't post anything negative. That's why I came here to PS to vent and get opinions. :)
 
How long does it take to unsolder?
 
Not long at all in actual bench time. It may take a day or so to work it into rotation, this we can not know.

Wink
 
Wink|1398612867|3661217 said:
Not long at all in actual bench time. It may take a day or so to work it into rotation, this we can not know.

Wink


Thank you! :-). I should start getting ready to head over to the jewelers to get this rectified.
 
My ring is at the jewelers and should be done/corrected by Wednesday. :). Pictures will be posted once it's done. I'm nervous and excited.
 
DiamondsOnly|1398635282|3661412 said:
My ring is at the jewelers and should be done/corrected by Wednesday. :). Pictures will be posted once it's done. I'm nervous and excited.

Oh I really hope you love it! Fingers crossed for you!
 
She's fixed and looks beautiful! :).

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DiamondsOnly|1398905956|3663998 said:
She's fixed and looks beautiful! :).

Oh that's great! :appl: Thanks for checking in, I'm really glad it all worked out - Enjoy, your set is beautiful!
 
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