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Vaelency

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I’ve found articles and watched videos saying something like painite is worth $60,000 a carat, alexandrite around $15,000 a carat, etc.. Now how accurate are these prices? I’ve gotten my hands on some pretty rare, high quality gems, and would like to know their true value.image.jpg
 
elle_chris said:
If you're claiming you have over 100k worth of high end gems, then why aren't you getting them appraised?
No one here can tell you anything based off a pic.
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Thanks
 
Beautiful stones. With some of them having differing hardness, meaning some can scratch others, i hope you are keeping them in gem containers and not all loose together like in your picture. Tell us about your stones and how you came into possession of them.
 
Start with this classic thread, Have you really got an alexandrite? If you have inherited a large, unset, very clear stone, chances are extremely high that you have a synthetic, and next to nothing that you have gotten your hands on a rare, high-quality gem. I have never, not once in this forum, seen a person offer proof that their inherited large, unset, very clear stone is what they have claimed it to be. I LOVE a happy ending a la Bron's tale of finding Truth, but I most strongly suspect we do not have a repeat case here.
 
Vaelency said:
I’ve found articles and watched videos saying something like painite is worth $60,000 a carat, alexandrite around $15,000 a carat, etc.. Now how accurate are these prices? I’ve gotten my hands on some pretty rare, high quality gems, and would like to know their true value.image.jpg
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That's a lovely collection regardless of value
what are your plans for setting them ?
 
I kind of think I'd be sending a few to AGL/GIA/GRS before attempting to set. They're not worth much without the lab report.

The comment above about storing them separately in gem jars is astute. If they're being stored lose in a common container, then they will scratch each other very very quickly. If they have been stored like this (i.e. lose and all together) and you're not seeing any scratches then take them to some local jewelery stores and get them to use a presidium gem tester before you send them to the lab.
 
I saw that a car can be worth millions of dollars. A house can even be over $100 million. It's like that. A lot depends on the car or house.

I agree with everyone else: if you think you have very valuable gems, then: 1) do not store them together in a sock; and 2) get reports from a reputable independent lab (GIA, AGL, etc).

I am not familiar with painite and I am guessing most jewelers are not, either. Are you saying you have those or just googled the most expensive gems?
 
Unless you acquired them as a result of an armed robbery (which would be in the news) or you are the heir of a rich Saudi prince, I think you are looking at glass, synthetics, or plastic - can you give us some additional context?

If you cannot bother to send them to a gem lab, I’ll give you 30$ for the whole bunch, my daughter loves shiny stuff ;)
 
Certain gemstones can be very expensive due to a combination of desirability, rarity, size and lack of treatments with other considerations like colour, clarity and origin thrown in.
These days because of the excellent quality of lab grown material and the prevalence of treatments, some very sophisticated and hard to detect, with coloured gemstones an appropriate lab report from a well regarded lab is pretty much essential.
And of the course the prices you might see gemstones advertised at is not necessarily a benchmark for comparison.
If you need to know the value of your gemstones, the first step would be to obtain appropriate lab reports and then find an appraiser who can value the gemstones.
As a “private seller” you won’t be able to sell easily so keep that in mind.
 
Gems are not an investment for the vast majority. The people who are successfully investing never do anything without prior airtight vetting, documentation and provenance. They are also outlying impressive sums at the outset, usually through dealer channels.
Gems run the gamut and minor differences in color or treatment usually means thousands less. The likelihood of one rare gem falling in your lap is a feat, several, almost unheard of. Nothing about treatments can be determined by eye. They have labs for that. If you actually want to know what you have, this is the only way you'll know definitively.
 
ringo865 said:
Beautiful stones. With some of them having differing hardness, meaning some can scratch others, i hope you are keeping them in gem containers and not all loose together like in your picture. Tell us about your stones and how you came into possession of them.
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Exactly what I was thinking! Those gems need to be separated assuming they are not just glass.
 
I agree that you would need credible lab reports (think something like AGL or GIA), and would like to add that a credible lab report would help you to sell the stones if you're inclined to do so.

Gems can't really be identified just by looking at a photo online, so you'll have a hard time selling a valuable stone for any substantial amount of money unless you have a lab report. The only exception is if you're selling to a dealer who has the expertise and equipment to identify gems and is honourable enough to cut you a fair deal, but that may mean taking a lower price since the dealer would need to make a profit as well.
 
If the 72 carat pink sapphire you have listed on Loupe Troop for $7,500 is genuinely “Heat only” ie with a reputable lab report confirming this, it is worth way more than $7,500.
If however it is just lab grown sapphire, it is worth $100 or less.
 
Bron357 said:
If the 72 carat pink sapphire you have listed on Loupe Troop for $7,500 is genuinely “Heat only” ie with a reputable lab report confirming this, it is worth way more than $7,500.
If however it is just lab grown sapphire, it is worth $100 or less.
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And this is why I would never buy off of loupe troop, or any other site for that matter without knowing who is actually selling. I mean 7.5k for a stone that has no info. other than what the seller says.. ugh..
 
Yikes. Hopefully the price is high enough that a potential buyer would be wary. To state that the listed sapphire is "natural" without offering a lab report after the advice received on this forum is borderline fraudulent.
 
The price of that 72ct pink sapphire makes no sense. It is too clean and too cheap to be natural. And also FAR too expensive For what it most likely is: a synthetic.

!!!Crook alert!!!
 
pokerface said:
Yikes. Hopefully the price is high enough that a potential buyer would be wary. To state that the listed sapphire is "natural" without offering a lab report after the advice received on this forum is borderline fraudulent.
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Agreed. Super frustrating and very dishonest. OP has to be aware that the chances of it being natural are near zero
 
Unfortunately a lab sapphire can be chemically identical to a real one. It'll have the same refractive index and everything. You won't get a definitive answer unless you send it to a reliable lab.

Pick some of the smaller gems (that look valuable) and send them to AGL or GIA. If they turn out to be natural and have relatively little treatment then try to send them to a proper consignment store like jewels by grace. You'll have to go through the pile doing this one by one with each gem.

There is no way to short cut this step of sending to a lab. There are 1000s of lab sapphires that look identical to what you've currently got sitting for sale for ~$100 each on eBay. So you won't get better than this price without the lab report. Because what you've got is currently the same as what all the other sellers on ebay have (and will remain the same until you have that lab report).
 
OP, get a credible lab report. No one with the slightest shred of common sense is going to think that the sapphire that you posted is worth anywhere near the $7,500 that you have listed it for. If you genuinely believe that it's a natural heat-only sapphire, you would prove it with a lab report.

The fact that you're trying to sell that stone without a proper lab report for verification is the thing that makes the other posters here think that you're a scammer. From my perspective, it looks very much like you've posted that very first image to assess whether people are suckers that will just take your word for it and pay you the $7,500 that you are asking for.

If you genuinely think that it's a natural heat-only sapphire, I welcome you to prove it! Get a credible lab report! I'll happily eat my words if it turns out to be legit.
 
I am commenting to follow. I absolutely need to see if OP will reply but I am not holding my breath.
 
I love to find pictures of fancy cars, palatial homes and expensive gems on the internet and then pretend they belong to me. Usually, I keep my fantasies to myself, though.
 
For the benefit of any non-scammers reading this thread… if you’re wondering whether the rocks you have are “worth” sending out to a lab, you or a friend who has a relationship with a jeweler can take them in for a quick look before you spend the money or effort on a bunch of quality lab tests. Sometimes I take my bargain finds to the local family owned shop that does my repairs/resizes and they are happy to give an informal opinion.
 
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