Jeweljunke
Shiny_Rock
- Joined
- May 2, 2007
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Received my stone from ebay seller Caratsgems. Here is the ebay contact story and a picture they used in their listing of this stone:
From: jeweljunkeme
To: caratsgems
Subject: Request to change an order: jeweljunkeme sent a message about 1.99CTS MESMERIZING LUSTER NATURAL MINT GREEN TOURMALINE
Sent Date: Mar-20-12 09:22:09 PDT
Dear caratsgems,
Hi, I need to cancel this transaction. I do not believe it is tourmaline. I see feedback that says a stone of yours tested as quartz, and this stone also looks like your green prasiolite and also looks like your green topaz. Please cancel now, without the trouble of sending and me sending it back. Thank you, Dian- jeweljunkeme
From: caratsgems
To: jeweljunkeme
Sent Date: Mar-20-12 09:41:00 PDT
Dear jeweljunkeme,
Hi Dian,
There is a feedback stating that a stone tested as quartz but I got the stone checked for the client has it was tourmaline. I can get the stone tested for you from a Reputable Lab and send you picture of the Certificate. I hope that is fair enough. I do not mix up stones but like to deal in a variety of stones. There is a difference in Prasiolite and Green Topaz. I hope we can sort this out.
Regards
Dean- caratsgems
To: caratsgems
Sent Date: Mar-20-12 11:13:42 PDT
Dear caratsgems,
Hi, AIGS or GIT would be acceptable labs for the report. If you can do that and send my the report, then yes, that would be ok. But I do NOT trust all labs, or in house reports. AIGS or GIT.
Best regards, Dian - jeweljunkeme
From: caratsgems
To: jeweljunkeme
Sent Date: Mar-20-12 20:39:05 PDT
Dear jeweljunkeme,
Hi Dian,
I am willing to get the stone certified from AIGS for you but the certificate charges will be $45 to $50 for AIGS. If I pay for that, I am left with no profit at all,Infact I loose money. How about I certify the stone from AIGS and if it's Tourmaline as I have mentioned you pay for AIGS charges and if it is not what I have stated, I bear the full cost for it. I hope this will be fair enough.
Regards
Dean- caratsgems
From: jeweljunkeme
To: caratsgems
Sent Date: Mar-21-12 05:31:07 PDT
Dear caratsgems,
Hi Dean, Per the AIGS website, a Brief Report costs 1,200 baht or about $39.00 us. I am willing to split the difference. (I should not have to prove what a stone is, you should as the seller), so I would pay for the stone if it checks out to be what you say. BUT, I want a photo of the actual report before I pay. There has been some warnings of forged reports going around. So I would want to see the report number before I pay. Fair? (sorry to be so untrusting, but I am tired of being cheated. and yes, I should have had this conversation with you before I did BIN. sorry about that. so if you want to cancel, that is ok also.)
Best regards, Dian- jeweljunkeme
Dear jeweljunkeme,
Hi Dian,
Thank you for your understanding. I fully understand the situation with fraud on Ebay and I am trying to work something out with a new Page to certify all my stones as well. AIGS report is about Bht. 1200 and I checked with today from the Lab. I will go with what you have offered. I will get the stone certified first. Once I get it from AIGS, I will send you the photo of the certificate and you can track it with AIGS webiste as well. That should be fair for both of us and I would like to ahead with the transaction.
Regards
Dean- caratsgems
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HERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE STONE I TOOK TODAY. I am very happy I stood my ground. The stone is really very lovely, better than the photos I took, IRL. In my opinion, if this vendor took more true to life photos, they would sell more. I will check this vendor out again, but I will always insist on a cert from now one from ANY vendor. There is just way too much 'tom foolery' going on in the world.
![IMGP2824.jpg IMGP2824.jpg](https://www.pricescope.com/community/data/attachments/487/487601-37da2a56eff1af0c86e44905933780cc.jpg)
![31-A.jpg 31-A.jpg](https://www.pricescope.com/community/data/attachments/487/487597-da73744717e7298a178fa321d0e6e4a7.jpg)
From: jeweljunkeme
To: caratsgems
Subject: Request to change an order: jeweljunkeme sent a message about 1.99CTS MESMERIZING LUSTER NATURAL MINT GREEN TOURMALINE
Sent Date: Mar-20-12 09:22:09 PDT
Dear caratsgems,
Hi, I need to cancel this transaction. I do not believe it is tourmaline. I see feedback that says a stone of yours tested as quartz, and this stone also looks like your green prasiolite and also looks like your green topaz. Please cancel now, without the trouble of sending and me sending it back. Thank you, Dian- jeweljunkeme
From: caratsgems
To: jeweljunkeme
Sent Date: Mar-20-12 09:41:00 PDT
Dear jeweljunkeme,
Hi Dian,
There is a feedback stating that a stone tested as quartz but I got the stone checked for the client has it was tourmaline. I can get the stone tested for you from a Reputable Lab and send you picture of the Certificate. I hope that is fair enough. I do not mix up stones but like to deal in a variety of stones. There is a difference in Prasiolite and Green Topaz. I hope we can sort this out.
Regards
Dean- caratsgems
To: caratsgems
Sent Date: Mar-20-12 11:13:42 PDT
Dear caratsgems,
Hi, AIGS or GIT would be acceptable labs for the report. If you can do that and send my the report, then yes, that would be ok. But I do NOT trust all labs, or in house reports. AIGS or GIT.
Best regards, Dian - jeweljunkeme
From: caratsgems
To: jeweljunkeme
Sent Date: Mar-20-12 20:39:05 PDT
Dear jeweljunkeme,
Hi Dian,
I am willing to get the stone certified from AIGS for you but the certificate charges will be $45 to $50 for AIGS. If I pay for that, I am left with no profit at all,Infact I loose money. How about I certify the stone from AIGS and if it's Tourmaline as I have mentioned you pay for AIGS charges and if it is not what I have stated, I bear the full cost for it. I hope this will be fair enough.
Regards
Dean- caratsgems
From: jeweljunkeme
To: caratsgems
Sent Date: Mar-21-12 05:31:07 PDT
Dear caratsgems,
Hi Dean, Per the AIGS website, a Brief Report costs 1,200 baht or about $39.00 us. I am willing to split the difference. (I should not have to prove what a stone is, you should as the seller), so I would pay for the stone if it checks out to be what you say. BUT, I want a photo of the actual report before I pay. There has been some warnings of forged reports going around. So I would want to see the report number before I pay. Fair? (sorry to be so untrusting, but I am tired of being cheated. and yes, I should have had this conversation with you before I did BIN. sorry about that. so if you want to cancel, that is ok also.)
Best regards, Dian- jeweljunkeme
Dear jeweljunkeme,
Hi Dian,
Thank you for your understanding. I fully understand the situation with fraud on Ebay and I am trying to work something out with a new Page to certify all my stones as well. AIGS report is about Bht. 1200 and I checked with today from the Lab. I will go with what you have offered. I will get the stone certified first. Once I get it from AIGS, I will send you the photo of the certificate and you can track it with AIGS webiste as well. That should be fair for both of us and I would like to ahead with the transaction.
Regards
Dean- caratsgems
========================================
HERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE STONE I TOOK TODAY. I am very happy I stood my ground. The stone is really very lovely, better than the photos I took, IRL. In my opinion, if this vendor took more true to life photos, they would sell more. I will check this vendor out again, but I will always insist on a cert from now one from ANY vendor. There is just way too much 'tom foolery' going on in the world.
![IMGP2816.jpg IMGP2816.jpg](https://www.pricescope.com/community/data/attachments/487/487598-4fb53d9bb08ade798bdc3f72b4de4fda.jpg)
![IMGP2814.jpg IMGP2814.jpg](https://www.pricescope.com/community/data/attachments/487/487599-b691b0eee18388a4646028d13ea749b4.jpg)
![IMGP2827.jpg IMGP2827.jpg](https://www.pricescope.com/community/data/attachments/487/487600-98bf02fbe2598d95c76e878954a97eda.jpg)
![IMGP2824.jpg IMGP2824.jpg](https://www.pricescope.com/community/data/attachments/487/487601-37da2a56eff1af0c86e44905933780cc.jpg)