RW Wise 6.93 Carat Spessartite Garnet (Inventory # 6064)

[Kaede]

iHey you all, I'm thinking about buying (and hoarding) this http://www.rwwise.com/products/id|619. I don't know what I'd do with it, but I've been eyeing it for months now. Orange and black are my stable colors. Every so often I am required to dress up for a function, either at school or for a horsey event. It would be nice to have a piece of nice jewelry in my stable colors.

 

[movie zombie]

there are those that think you can get something for less and there are those that say time is $ and you're getting at a discount due to his retirement sale.

you are paying for his "eye" and that is worth $ because his time is valuable.

my opinion? you've been eyeing it for sometime. Richard's eye for spess is very very very good. this one appears to have good "crystal" which so many do not. you are also paying for SIZE. spess in this size will cost more.

my spess is 8.18 and was purchased from Richard some years ago. mine is the more citrusy orange. I really like this one and think you will always regret letting it get away. spess of this quality and size are not easy to find.

admittedly, i'm a fan of large spess stones. I think the good ones are few and far between. buy it!

eta: I love your avatar! in fact, I love it so much I have purchased a print and it is winging its way to me as I write this. I hope to have it this week!

 

[chrono]

If you like it, then get it. A 20% discount is nothing to scoff at. Being that this is a retirement sale, is this stone returnable should you decide it's not the right colour for you? This particular hue isn't orange enough for me, but that's my personal preference.

 

[SB621]

Ok I know I have been absent from CS for a while but seriously 8k for a spess? Has rough dried up and I'm just not aware of it? Is this the next meg. spinel?????

 

[Kaede]

I don't believe the price to be out of line with the other large, clear spessartite I've seen. I've been looking for a big orange, well cut gem for a while. I don't know about windows, extinction, bow-ties, or even how to judge cut. That's what I need help with.

 

[davi_el_mejor]

I don't believe the price to be out of line with the other large, clear spessartite I've seen. I've been looking for a big orange, well cut gem for a while. I don't know about windows, extinction, bow-ties, or even how to judge cut. That's what I need help with.

The cut is excellent. I would trust Richards assesment that it is on the cinnamon side of color. It looks to have enough contrast in the cut to keep the stone lively and I doubt you'll get bored staring at it

As for price... well... I will say you can find better LOOKING color in photos and video online for less, but like others have said, Richard's color evaluation is what you're paying for. It will most certainly be as described, the others you may find online may or may not be, and that's quite a big gamble for something so small.

 

[movie zombie]

I don't see a problem with the stone.
there might be a small tilt window but that could just be the result of the camera and the angle of the stone.
color looks good....if you want those cinnamon tones....and it would work for me....but then its not for me, is it?!
cut looks good.
call Richard. he's great to talk with. ask about "issues". there is no bowtie with this cut [think ovals for that]. ask him about a tilt window. however, if there is one, its small and depending on your setting it won't be noticeable and may even close up. ask him about his return policy given he's retiring.

and, what type of setting are you considering?

spess is not a 24/7 stone.
having said that I wear mine to the garden center, the farmers market, bowling, any time I leave the house. I also take it off when I get home. no gardening, washing dishes, etc. would I wear it in the scenario you mentioned? yes, I would but i'd take care not to abuse it. heck, i'd even wear it at a horsey event at which i'm on the horse!

Richard deals in high quality stones. I to this day regret that I did not buy from Richard a large amethyst [13+ carats] that I considered, delayed, called on, remained undecided, and when I did call to say yes I want it, well, it had sold the week before [after my drooling over it for over a year]. I have yet to see another amethyst that "calls to me". and every time I look at another amethyst I measure it against my memory of that stone. I won't let that happen again.

spess is a special stone, imo. it either rocks your boat or it doesn't. in my wildest dreams I never would have thought i'd end up with an orange e-ring. but when I saw it on Richard's website and we talked, I decided to chance it. when it got here there was no way I was sending it back. i'd seen another spess locally for 1/2 the price and it was windowed, didn't have good crystal, etc. and the seller thought it was great. while I did not yet have an educated eye I knew that it was not for me. there was no doubt in my mind re Richard's stone! my biggest issue was how to set it...........and that took months to finally decide.

 

[T L]

I think it's very expensive because you're paying for the size and clarity, and the cutting is nice. I've seen ones with better color, but it is very clean and large.

He calls it a "cinnamon-orange" hue. What does that mean? Is it brownish? I think of cinnamon as a brownish color.

 

[movie zombie]

I think of it as having "red" in it.
until the OP calls Richard and gets more info, she's as much in the dark as we are.

large size, good cut, and good crystal = lots of $.

did you see the 13 or 14 carat one for $38k?!

http://rwwise.com/products/id|2015

#10958

i'm sure there can be better color but not in that size and not necessarily with as good crystal.
one could take the time to shop more but i'm guessing the OP has been looking at spess on line for a period of time already. some of us really are into large size stones and sometimes one has to pay good $ to get what one wants if one "wants it all".

I hope his return policy is still as good as when I bought. this is definitely worth a look-see, imo.

 

[smitcompton]

Hi,

There is another stone Mr. Wise has that has a more "fanta color" . It is the 3.29cts that you might be interested in. That one will be about 2,000 with the discount. Beautiful color, I think.


Annette

 

[Kaede]

Called and talked to Mrs. Wise. She said that the stone is pure orange but a darker hue. I imagine monarch butterflies rather than tangerines. That's fine by me.

 

[canuk-gal]

HI:

I think it is lovely--no color "issues" for me. But don't know how'd you set it--the shape given its size, for a ring, might be too large. FWIW, I have a Ceylon sapphire trillion shape and it is set in a ring and is around 2.5 ctw, and is quite "large"...even on my 6.5 right ring finger. As for a pendant, the same concerns.

But if you just want to stare at it--perfect!

Let us know what you decide.

cheers--Sharon

 

[movie zombie]

color isn't an issue for me....but then I have my "orange".
i'd like a redder one as well and this one would be perfect to my eye.
size? that would not concern me either but then I like and wear big stones.
my 8.18 spess is actually not that large when next to my jasper cabs......but it is by far my largest color stone ring. it looks great on my finger and I do not have long fingers.

i hope you're having it sent to you to inspect.....assuming the return policy is still a good one.

 

[canuk-gal]

color isn't an issue for me....but then I have my "orange".
i'd like a redder one as well and this one would be perfect to my eye.
size? that would not concern me either but then I like and wear big stones.
my 8.18 spess is actually not that large when next to my jasper cabs......but it is by far my largest color stone ring. it looks great on my finger and I do not have long fingers.

i hope you're having it sent to you to inspect.....assuming the return policy is still a good one.

MZ: I would just like to clarify my statement as to "size"...I wear up to 20 ctw colored stones (aqua ((emerald cut)), coral ((oval)), tourmaline ((oval))...)...but they have always been these "traditional" shapes. I think these shapes sit "well" on fingers.

What I meant is the trillion shape and this size--how "would" this stone sit nicely on a finger??? (I can think of only one way...lack of creativity here) Sorry, my message didn't get across properly and I meant no disrespect to those who love and wear large stones daily. I do too!

But the shape presents a conundrum--but only to me.

Yes, inspection a good idea... Sorry for the hijack.....

cheers--Sharon

 

[movie zombie]

my bad, Sharon.....didn't mean it as a swipe at you. there are not many of us that love and wear big stones and we have to stick together! I think if shape was the issue that the OP wouldn't have been interested in this spess......but I could be wrong.

my mind has already come up with a setting based on the ring on the left [high karat yellow gold, of course!]:

 

[movie zombie]

here's another design that would inspire me....with a wider band, of course:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/1265206...+Ring&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery

 

[VapidLapid]

For as long as I have seen this stone on Richard's site I have thought it very nice. While his sale is not a paniced fire sale it is a good discount from his regular pricing and I think that means it is fairly priced.

As for setting such a stone in a ring I think there are many possibilities. I will give just one here. It requires one to have found a goldsmith who can work in a machinist mindset. The head of the setting could be mounted atop a single gear that would sit inside a ring-gear only larger enough that the inner gear could rotate backwards in it. This would not be visible as there would be a solid face capping it like a sealed ball bearing on a skateboard. this capping face would be a perfect location for a halo. The triangle shape could then be positioned in any orientation within the setting at will, or be allowed to wind its way around the setting with one's movements. There could even be a hidden set screw on the side or underneath if one wanted to set it and forget it. This way one would not have to choose a single static orientation for the stone. For the mechanics imagine a spirograph ring gear with a disc gear inside it.




The internally multi gear illustration is more complex than I am imagining, but since it has a triangular element I thought it might help visualizing. Imaging the triangle as the stone and take all those internal gears and replace then with a single disc gear.

 

[Kaede]

I just ordered the stone. Mr. Wise was VERY nice. It's being sent out overnight by FedEX and should arrive in the wilderness where I live on Friday. I ordered the stone too late in the day for it to be shipped out today.

I'm very excited. My first gemstone.

 

[movie zombie]

congrats! I hope it is everything you desire!