Selling my 2.5 carat, J/K VS1 Transitional!

[Circe]

I'm selling my little fireball to get the funds to upgrade for the next anniversary ... figured I ought to get a headstart! It's a transitional cut with a high crown, very fiery, certed by EGL NY as a J/K VS1. It faces up very white for me, a little bit of a creamy tint from the side, very subtle. It has faint blue fluorescence, which might be part of why it faces up so white!

The fishtail setting, deco-inspired but custom-made by my incredibly talented custom jeweler, measures almost 9mm square, giving the illusion of a 3 carat square cushion. With sidestones totalling approximately another .20 of marquise & rounds, it's beautiful on its own or stacked with a variety of bands. It will come with the cert, and, if the buyer desires, I can include David Wolfe's very thorough appraisal.

If you have any questions or want any additional pictures, please don't hesitate to get in touch!

http://loupetroop.com/listings/ring...ting-faces-up-huge-size-6-dot-25-can-be-sized

 

[yssie]

Circe!!

Oh, I'm sorry to see this listing but at the same time I'm glad you've been able to determine the path to a peaceful conclusion to what I know was an emotional journey.

Having been lucky enough to see it in-person I know just how alluring this stone is, and the setting is beautifully complementary Good luck with the sale!!!

 

[Circe]

Thanks, Yssie! It turned out absolutely magnificently: it's just that in the process, it de-coupled from all of the sentimental specificity that I really valued. I was talking to my husband about that (in the context of having lost my wedding ring - iit still hasn't turned up), and his reaction was to suggest a nice, sentimental upgrade. Good man.

Thanks for the kind words, both the support and the compliments - I really appreciate it! Nothing like a testimonial from a Rockytalk leader!

P.S. - For anybody who's coming in in media res, I bought the stone in an original vintage setting, took it for a repair, and ... had it destroyed in a fairly drawn-out process. It was eventually settled with the creation of the new-and-improved deco-style setting you see before you. And since links will give not only background, but also more pics .... here it is in its original incarnation, https://www.pricescope.com/communit...ng-2-5-carats-of-transitional-cut-joy.166379/, and here's the thread about the new design: https://www.pricescope.com/communit...versary-ring-with-bonus-ruby-eternity.188796/

P.P.S. - Should have just said this in the listing - always happy to hear offers!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Circe, I cannot wait to see what an upgrade to this will be!!!

(You might want to add the stone diameter dimensions to your listing. That is something I always look at with old cuts especially.)

 

[Circe]

Aaagh, what a thing to leave out - thanks, DS! I remember the average as 8.77, but I'll look it up when I get home and post all the details.

 

[SandyinAnaheim]

I was talking to my husband about that (in the context of having lost my wedding ring - iit still hasn't turned up), and his reaction was to suggest a nice, sentimental upgrade. Good man.

I agree! I love the story in that first link. You are a lucky lady indeed. Hope this goes quick so you can get on to your next conquest and we can all live vicariously through it!

 

[misskittycat]

Gorgeous gorgeous ring. I hope it finds a happy home with someone who loves it as much as you do!

 

[Circe]

Thank you, Sandy & MissKittyCat! Those are lovely sentiments - your lips to God's ear, as my mother always says!

So, stats: I have two different sets because I had it appraised by Dave Wolfe in its original setting, and then it was certed by EGL in its new setting last August, after I'd worn it for six months, and around the time I began idly thinking of upgrading. Here are both sets (and I'm happy to include both with the ring). It was weighed during the resetting process, and it's 2.52 carats.

Dave Wolfe, as copied from my original thread:

Color: Color: sold as a J, appraiser rated it a J/K - said it was hard to tell while set.
Clarity: VVS2
Weight: Two and a half carats.
Measurements: 8.75 X 8.83 X 5.24
Total Depth: 59.8%
Table: 53.6%
Crown Height: 17.1%
Crown Angle: 36.4%
Pavilion Depth: 41%
Pavilion Angle: 39.4
Star Length: 40.9%
Lower Half Length: 76.5%
Culet: Medium
Fluorescence: Medium
Girdle: VTK to STN, Bruted


SPECS from EGL:
WEIGHT: 2.50
SHAPE & STYLE: Transition Round Brilliant
MEASUREMENTS: 8.74 X 8.72 x 5.15
COLOR: J/K (split grade as it was graded mounted)
CLARITY: VS1

PROPORTIONS:
DEPTH: 59%
TABLE: 53%
CROWN: NA
PAVILION: NA
GIRDLE: VT to T

FLUORESCENCE: FAINT

As you can see, they're in agreement, which I found very reassuring in terms of EGL ... I know they have a wonky rep at times, but they're the industry standard for grading old cuts. And since Dave's reputation is spotless ... hopefully the confluence will be reassuring to potential buyers, too.

BTW, I'm aware that big ticket items can take a while to sell, so just in case, I'm also going to be listing a few other things, like my Alex Sepkus platinum circle band, my four carat emerald-cut eternity, and a few other things (i.e., everything that isn't nailed down to the ground). Watch this space!

 

[backwardsandinheels]

That diamond is smokin'. Any future to be engaged guys take note. Especially if your girl is picky about old cuts.

 

[SB621]

Circe if you put up for sale that ruby ring then for the love of all that is holy...ok won't go there!

But messag me on FB! Ok I'm done harrassing you. Would you consider a time share? Ok ok i'm done! Please don't hate me! Just love that ring!

 

[Circe]

That diamond is smokin'. Any future to be engaged guys take note. Especially if your girl is picky about old cuts.

Can I think of a higher compliment? Only barely! Thank you, BiHH ... and considering the source ... yowzah, am I flattered!

Circe if you put up for sale that ruby ring then for the love of all that is holy...ok won't go there!

But messag me on FB! Ok I'm done harrassing you. Would you consider a time share? Ok ok i'm done! Please don't hate me! Just love that ring!

The only higher compliment: true covetousness, aka, how I feel about Venice. Trust me, if I ever decide to sell the strawberry delight, you are first in line of people I PM! And, timeshare-wise ... there's always periodic swapping? 'Cause I can think of pieces of yours I would deeply love to indulge in appreciating ....

 

[Circe]

When the sun finally came out, I couldn't resist taking her along for a little photoshoot ....

 

[Circe]

And a few more, as much because I just love the color of it juxtaposed against my coat as anything else.

And as I mentioned before ... all offers seriously considered.

 

[Circe]

Marked down to $17,500 - http://loupetroop.com/listings/ring...ting-faces-up-huge-size-6-dot-25-can-be-sized

Discount for PSrs, all offers considered.

 

[bluelotus]

Hi Circe
I have been combing the threads to find more information on transitional/early round brilliants and visited your posts to admire yours a number of times. I recently purchased a vintage/antique ring with its original diamond that was made in the early to mid 1920s. I have been curious to look at other transitional/early modern brilliant stones.

I know that you now feel that yours has been "de-coupled from its sentimental specificity" but it is still very beautiful.

I have gotten some incomplete specs on my stone (thought that it would have to be removed from its setting to measure) but have been able to get some extrapolations from John Pollard who projected a wire frame drawing on some images I posted. I too read Gilbertson's book on the American cut and am now realizing that the stone in my recently purchased ring may have some of the transitional characteristics that you've described. . . higher crown and steeper CA. . . makes for more contrast and lots of fire! Running the numbers in the HCA suggests what is called FIC proportions and not too different from yours. This is all fascinating for me because I was able to get the history on the ring from the granddaughter of the man who had it made for himself. He apparently purchased the stone in the 1920s in either London or Antwerp then brought it back to the States where he had it set in its current setting. Very cool to imagine that the stone was purchased just after Tolkowsky published his research.


Did David Wolf come up with the specs on your stone without removing it from its setting? Feel free to visit my threads if you like. . . good luck with the sale!

 

[Circe]

Hi Circe
I have been combing the threads to find more information on transitional/early round brilliants and visited your posts to admire yours a number of times. I recently purchased a vintage/antique ring with its original diamond that was made in the early to mid 1920s. I have been curious to look at other transitional/early modern brilliant stones.

I know that you now feel that yours has been "de-coupled from its sentimental specificity" but it is still very beautiful.

I have gotten some incomplete specs on my stone (thought that it would have to be removed from its setting to measure) but have been able to get some extrapolations from John Pollard who projected a wire frame drawing on some images I posted. I too read Gilbertson's book on the American cut and am now realizing that the stone in my recently purchased ring may have some of the transitional characteristics that you've described. . . higher crown and steeper CA. . . makes for more contrast and lots of fire! Running the numbers in the HCA suggests what is called FIC proportions and not too different from yours. This is all fascinating for me because I was able to get the history on the ring from the granddaughter of the man who had it made for himself. He apparently purchased the stone in the 1920s in either London or Antwerp then brought it back to the States where he had it set in its current setting. Very cool to imagine that the stone was purchased just after Tolkowsky published his research.


Did David Wolf come up with the specs on your stone without removing it from its setting? Feel free to visit my threads if you like. . . good luck with the sale!

Hi Blue Lotus! I'm so flattered it caught your eye! I do still love the stone, and I go back and forth on selling it ... but with another kiddo on the way, I figure if it sells, I can remix the sentiment with a new piece to symbolize both kids.

The history of the cut is absolutely fascinating, though. It sounds like you have a lot of info. on your stone ... how marvelous to know the pedigree so thoroughly! Dave Wolf did indeed come up with the numbers while the stone was set, and was very accurate: I had it checked out by GOG during the whole saga of the reset, and they gave me nearly identical numbers. I'd recommend them both very highly. Now off to peruse your thread ...

P.S. - Final reduction! $15,500 for PriceScopers. http://loupetroop.com/listings/rings/2-dot-5ct-solitaire-with-platinum-fishtail-prong-setting-faces-up-huge-size-6-dot-25-can-be-sized

 

[bluelotus]

Hi Circe,
Been meaning to post another message. I am planning a trip up to New York from Philly some time during the next couple of weeks and will definitely work in a visit to David Wolf's. Out of curiosity I plugged in the numbers of your stone in the HCA and it came in as a Fiery Ideal. These are apparently quite scarce in comparison to the TICs and the BICs. I will be interested to see how my stone comes in. I don't think the crown angle on mine is quite so steep as yours and the crown seems shallower overall. Anyhoo, perhaps I'll create a new thread in the antique forum once I get the stats on my stone. I wonder how many of these early ideals are still floating around untouched. They are just as appealing to me as the blockier Euro cuts given the limited technology available at the time of their creation.
Happy New Year!