Setting ideas for Namya Spinel

[CBianco]

I just received my Spinel from Inken at Enhoerning Jewelry, and I'm mind blown! Inken has been extremely helpful, professional, and great to communicate with.

For the stone, it's a round neon pink 0.99ct cut in NY from old Namya material. Almost loupe clean and 5.6mm. It can definitely be considered Jedi in my opinion atleast. I am completely mesmerized, its crazy neon, looks good in every lighting and even has a small glow in the worst lighting possible.

Screenshot from Inken's videos:


My photos, they don't quite do the justice of it's neoness, it's prettier in person:

 

[CBianco]

Worst lighting in my house (closet with no lights on)

Now for setting ideas. This the one that I really like and am considering. I love the scroll and non traditional halo. Don't need a massive halo, as my hands are small and I quite like dainty designs.


Any ideas please feel free to input

 

[LilAlex]

No help -- just wanted to say that that looks absolutely amazing! Congrats and enjoy!

Well, OK, there's this: I love the top view of that ring but not the side view -- I think those two half-spirals should be more in the plane of the girdle. Side view looks like it's coming unraveled a little...

 

[CBianco]

No help -- just wanted to say that that looks absolutely amazing! Congrats and enjoy!

Well, OK, there's this: I love the top view of that ring but not the side view -- I think those two half-spirals should be more in the plane of the girdle. Side view looks like it's coming unraveled a little...

Thank you so much!

And I see what you mean, thanks for the input

 

[Atwater]

Wow, that is a beautiful spinel!

I agree with LilAlex that the half spirals should be more in the plane of the girdle. I think it can be closer to the stone and can have a curvier trajectory to merge to the shank.

 

[VividRed]

Saw it on her IG page - very beautiful!!

 

[elle_71125]

That’s gorgeous! I’m such a sucker for bright pink gems and yours is a stunning example.

Here are some setting ideas. Apparently I’m partial to floral halos so…

 

[CBianco]

That’s gorgeous! I’m such a sucker for bright pink gems and yours is a stunning example.

Here are some setting ideas. Apparently I’m partial to floral halos so…

Thank you so much for the inspo ideas, I love floral designs too And one day I hope to have a gorgeous collection like yours

 

[CaseyLouLou]

I just received my Spinel from Inken at Enhoerning Jewelry, and I'm mind blown! Inken has been extremely helpful, professional, and great to communicate with.

For the stone, it's a round neon pink 0.99ct cut in NY from old Namya material. Almost loupe clean and 5.6mm. It can definitely be considered Jedi in my opinion atleast. I am completely mesmerized, its crazy neon, looks good in every lighting and even has a small glow in the worst lighting possible.

Screenshot from Inken's videos:


My photos, they don't quite do the justice of it's neoness, it's prettier in person:

Gorgeous color! What are the dimensions? It kind of looks like it might be a little shallow so I’m not in love with the cut but it might just be the photos.

 

[CBianco]

Gorgeous color! What are the dimensions? It kind of looks like it might be a little shallow so I’m not in love with the cut but it might just be the photos.

I have to send it back for a lab report but she says it's 5.6mm diameter and about 4mm deep. I think it's just the photos, as the cutting looks excellent in person with no dark fields, no window, very very slight tilt window

 

[CaseyLouLou]

I have to send it back for a lab report but she says it's 5.6mm diameter and about 4mm deep. I think it's just the photos, as the cutting looks excellent in person with no dark fields, no window, very very slight tilt window

Definitely not cut too shallow sorry! I can’t wait to see it when you set it. Spinels are my favorite.

 

[CBianco]

Definitely not cut too shallow sorry! I can’t wait to see it when you set it. Spinels are my favorite.

No worries at all! Spinels have become my favorite too

 

[CBianco]

Hi everyone,

I just received the GIA report back and to my surprise the origin came back as Tanzania! (Nothing wrong at all with Mahenges, they are gorgeous but just not really what I had expected) Inken had disclosed to me beforehand that origin reports for spinels aren't as accurate as emeralds/sapphires/rubies. In hindsight, I probably should've sent it to AGL instead of GIA.... But didn't want to wait for weeks, as GIA has express service. She has also said it looks like namya/burmese she's worked with before rather than mahenges based from her experience, and I trust her. She had also bought it as namya from her trusted dealer.

I have no obligations to buy it because of this but the stone is gorgeous... I'll probably have her set it anyways as I really do love the stone. But my question is, how likely is it that the lab can get the origin wrong? Or is it more likely somewhere down the "food chain" there was some confusion/mix up? The price of it is reasonable, so that isn't the issue here.

 

[qubitasaurus]

I'm not sure how much it matters whether the lab got it wrong or not.

If you like it, then you should set it and enjoy it as the origin is irrelevant.

If you want to resel it then it won't command the premium of a namya Jedi spinel. The origin on the report is the origin that will be used for that transaction. Its good you have all the info now, and can decide what you want to do. I guess you should decide if you still would have bought it for that price if it wasn't advertised as namya.

 

[icy_jade]

Hi everyone,

I just received the GIA report back and to my surprise the origin came back as Tanzania! (Nothing wrong at all with Mahenges, they are gorgeous but just not really what I had expected) Inken had disclosed to me beforehand that origin reports for spinels aren't as accurate as emeralds/sapphires/rubies. In hindsight, I probably should've sent it to AGL instead of GIA.... But didn't want to wait for weeks, as GIA has express service. She has also said it looks like namya/burmese she's worked with before rather than mahenges based from her experience, and I trust her. She had also bought it as namya from her trusted dealer.

I have no obligations to buy it because of this but the stone is gorgeous... I'll probably have her set it anyways as I really do love the stone. But my question is, how likely is it that the lab can get the origin wrong? Or is it more likely somewhere down the "food chain" there was some confusion/mix up? The price of it is reasonable, so that isn't the issue here.

It’s not uncommon for stones of desired origins to be passed off for better prices e.g. anything as Burmese, or Kashmir sapphires. Am sure labs do make mistakes too but as a consumer I’ll only pay a premium for the location when a reliable lab has certified the origin.

 

[CaseyLouLou]

Hi everyone,

I just received the GIA report back and to my surprise the origin came back as Tanzania! (Nothing wrong at all with Mahenges, they are gorgeous but just not really what I had expected) Inken had disclosed to me beforehand that origin reports for spinels aren't as accurate as emeralds/sapphires/rubies. In hindsight, I probably should've sent it to AGL instead of GIA.... But didn't want to wait for weeks, as GIA has express service. She has also said it looks like namya/burmese she's worked with before rather than mahenges based from her experience, and I trust her. She had also bought it as namya from her trusted dealer.

I have no obligations to buy it because of this but the stone is gorgeous... I'll probably have her set it anyways as I really do love the stone. But my question is, how likely is it that the lab can get the origin wrong? Or is it more likely somewhere down the "food chain" there was some confusion/mix up? The price of it is reasonable, so that isn't the issue here.

I would ask for a discount if I were you. I’m sure it would have been priced lower had they known. The seller may have overpaid but you shouldn’t.

 

[LilAlex]

For a spinel, I would pay for appearance.

I do not view it like confirmation of Burma origin for corundum.

The better my eye gets, the less hung up I am on origin reports, tbh. And if I were choosing between two stones, I would take the better-looking over the better origin any day. (Treatment is completely different in my book -- I would not take a better-looking heated sapphire over a nearly as lovely unheated.)

 

[dk168]

This is my all time favourite for a 6mm ish pink stone.


Your Spinel is gorgeous, thanks for sharing BTW!

DK

 

[icy_jade]

For a spinel, I would pay for appearance.

I do not view it like confirmation of Burma origin for corundum.

The better my eye gets, the less hung up I am on origin reports, tbh. And if I were choosing between two stones, I would take the better-looking over the better origin any day. (Treatment is completely different in my book -- I would not take a better-looking heated sapphire over a nearly as lovely unheated.)

I agree re: appearance over origin but unfortunately if OP paid a premium for a Namya origin spinel, which the vendor had also disclosed to her, then it’s to her disfavor since the cert states otherwise. That’s why I would recommend to insist on a reliable cert upfront if anyone is paying an origin premium.

 

[VividRed]

I agree re: appearance over origin but unfortunately if OP paid a premium for a Namya origin spinel, which the vendor had also disclosed to her, then it’s to her disfavor since the cert states otherwise. That’s why I would recommend to insist on a reliable cert upfront if anyone is paying an origin premium.

Fully agree. Namya spinel trades at a high premium. Inken is an honest person and I would discuss this with her. But it also depends on how much OP paid…

 

[CBianco]

Thank you all for your comments.

Inken did offer me a slight discount, but I just did some research on mahenges and it now seems like the price for this one is on the very high side. However, many of what I saw aren't fair comps either as most didn't have the same intense color, cut, not eye clean etc.

What do you think it's a fair price range for a top color mahenge that is around 1ct, round shape and almost loupe clean?

This is now getting a little frustrating, as I love the stone but obviously don't want to overpay

 

[VividRed]

Thank you all for your comments.

Inken did offer me a slight discount, but I just did some research on mahenges and it now seems like the price for this one is on the very high side. However, many of what I saw aren't fair comps either as most didn't have the same intense color, cut, not eye clean etc.

What do you think it's a fair price range for a top color mahenge that is around 1ct, round shape and almost loupe clean?

This is now getting a little frustrating, as I love the stone but obviously don't want to overpay

How much did you pay before and after discount?

 

[CBianco]

My other choice was this one from higems on IG, it's is definitely namya. 1.16ct slightly windowed although the seller says it more of a tilt window. Has some inclusions but aren't really visible at eye distance, and hidden by the color too. No fissures or cracks, relatively clean. This would be the signature jedi color too, a neon reddish pink. Seller asking 5k usd.

I apologize for the low quality images, as they are screenshots from IG videos. It looks way better in the videos but I can't attach it here. What do you think of this one?

 

[CBianco]

How much did you pay before and after discount?

After discount would be 3K usd. Before was only a few hundred more so not a big difference...

 

[VividRed]

Those IG photos are taken with a smartphone. Do not expect the stones to look like this in person, they never do. Discount 20-30% saturation and you get closer to reality.

3k sounds a bit much a 0.99ct Mahenge spinel, but prices are all over the place so who knows if you can match that color quality and clarity with a lower price…personally I would return the stone and keep looking, but that’s just because I already have stones I want and only buy occasionally for fun

 

[demantoidz]

For me, Namya origin would make it more special. It wouldn't be about the few 100 dollars. But it's a gorgeous stone and hard to source a similar one. Mahenge is also a favorite for spinel origins. Its a tough spot to be in.
I would ask if there is a premium for the round shape, as some sellers charge extra for rounds. Is such a premium worth it to you, consdiering you were also considering the cushion?
Did you take a look at yavorskyy to compare (excellent inventory but they tend to be expensive)? They have only one nice pink round at 0.57ct/5.1mm though. Based on the video it might be too orangey. https://yavorskyy.com/products/vivid-pink-spinel-0-57-ct
Lots of other shapes, weights, colors to serve as rough comparison.

As for labs making mistakes, there was a huge paraiba on 1stdibs that AGL thought was Brazilian and SSEF thought was Mozambican.
Sometimes extremely clean spinels have no determinable origin - I notice this is more common in Tajikistan spinels.

 

[CBianco]

For me, Namya origin would make it more special. It wouldn't be about the few 100 dollars. But it's a gorgeous stone and hard to source a similar one. Mahenge is also a favorite for spinel origins. Its a tough spot to be in.
I would ask if there is a premium for the round shape, as some sellers charge extra for rounds. Is such a premium worth it to you, consdiering you were also considering the cushion?
Did you take a look at yavorskyy to compare (excellent inventory but they tend to be expensive)? They have only one nice pink round at 0.57ct/5.1mm though. Based on the video it might be too orangey. https://yavorskyy.com/products/vivid-pink-spinel-0-57-ct
Lots of other shapes, weights, colors to serve as rough comparison.

As for labs making mistakes, there was a huge paraiba on 1stdibs that AGL thought was Brazilian and SSEF thought was Mozambican.
Sometimes extremely clean spinels have no determinable origin - I notice this is more common in Tajikistan spinels.

I had specifically looked for the namya origin, so this news has definitely disappointed me a little... Would prefer a round but would be fine with a cushion too if the color makes up for it, while being aware that rounds are quite rare too.

I did take a look at yavorskyy as well as many other reputable vendors. Didn't really find much to give an apples to apples comparison though.

I guess it's probably more of a mind clean type of thing, as this stone might be prettier than a lot of namya/mansin ones. This gem checked off everything I had looked for, except for origin now... I feel like I'm not being logical if I were to pass on this just because of the origin on a lab report, basically a piece of paper... It's has no treatment, which is the most important part. But I did have my heart set on a Namya for some reason, so now I'm feeling so strange and overwhelmed

 

[demantoidz]

I had specifically looked for the namya origin, so this news has definitely disappointed me a little... Would prefer a round but would be fine with a cushion too if the color makes up for it, while being aware that rounds are quite rare too.

I did take a look at yavorskyy as well as many other reputable vendors. Didn't really find much to give an apples to apples comparison though.

I guess it's probably more of a mind clean type of thing, as this stone might be prettier than a lot of namya/mansin ones. This gem checked off everything I had looked for, except for origin now... I feel like I'm not being logical if I were to pass on this just because of the origin on a lab report, basically a piece of paper... It's has no treatment, which is the most important part. But I did have my heart set on a Namya for some reason, so now I'm feeling so strange and overwhelmed

I would feel the same. Since her service is sourcing, would she be able to look for a similar stone but of actual Namya origin (might have to forgo the round shape)? Maybe she has an opinion on the prospects of such a search, at least.

 

[CBianco]

I would feel the same. Since her service is sourcing, would she be able to look for a similar stone but of actual Namya origin (might have to forgo the round shape)? Maybe she has an opinion on the prospects of such a search, at least.

She can possibly find me another one with confirmed namya/burmese origin, as my original budget was higher anyways. I don't know how long it'll take though.

But I feel like such a hoarder, and would be jealous if someone else bought this However I'm still having a hard time deciding if I'd be overpaying for this or not... I'm all over the place

 

[T L]

Thank you all for your comments.

Inken did offer me a slight discount, but I just did some research on mahenges and it now seems like the price for this one is on the very high side. However, many of what I saw aren't fair comps either as most didn't have the same intense color, cut, not eye clean etc.

What do you think it's a fair price range for a top color mahenge that is around 1ct, round shape and almost loupe clean?

This is now getting a little frustrating, as I love the stone but obviously don't want to overpay

It’s not a top color Mahenge, because those are pinkish reds. The report states pink only. That doesn’t mean it’s not beautiful or glowy, but it’s not top trade ideal color. Typically, smaller Mahenges under three carats have less saturation.

These stones have gone up exponentially over the years, even pinks.