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TripEx

TripEx

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İ think my partner values the setting more than the stone.
She wants a really detailed setting and when İ mentioned youd want the stone to be the topic of convo she said yeah that too but kept talking about tbe setting.

Anyhow the stone i was looking at is about 3.5k USD 70 some odd points

The setting that will just meet her criteria from.the vendor im using is 3k USD i had to open up my budget to accomadate this aswell..
İ was hoping 1500-2200 on a setting.

Or to get a better sized stone.

İ see alot of people tend to get a cheaper or more plain setting as opposed to one with much detail.

İ hope she wont regret her choice.

Any opinons on this?
İs it normal for the pricing to be very similar
Just curious
 
Yes, some people really are all about the setting, the overall presentation, the visual aesthetic of the ring as a whole -- this is completely reasonable and a very popular perspective when it comes to engagement rings.

Other people may prioritize the size of the diamond (or the shape or the color etc) over the ring setting -- this is completely reasonable and a very popular perspective when it comes to engagement rings.

First and foremost, I applaud you for seeking your partner's preferences, well done!

Second, yes, often the setting is even more expensive than the center stone depending on intricacy, metal weight, diamond melee, etc.

Third, if the diamond and the setting are both about the same cost, and both meet your partner's preference/expectation, again, well done.

I would ask that you ensure the setting itself is a quality piece of jewelry, meaning well-crafted by a reputable jewelry vendor who stands behind every product.

I would also suggest that the center stone be as well-cut as possible within your budget, and check that the diamond melee in the chosen setting is also of high quality.
 
marymm said:
Yes, some people really are all about the setting, the overall presentation, the visual aesthetic of the ring as a whole -- this is completely reasonable and a very popular perspective when it comes to engagement rings.

Other people may prioritize the size of the diamond (or the shape or the color etc) over the ring setting -- this is completely reasonable and a very popular perspective when it comes to engagement rings.

First and foremost, I applaud you for seeking your partner's preferences, well done!

Second, yes, often the setting is even more expensive than the center stone depending on intricacy, metal weight, diamond melee, etc.

Third, if the diamond and the setting are both about the same cost, and both meet your partner's preference/expectation, again, well done.

I would ask that you ensure the setting itself is a quality piece of jewelry, meaning well-crafted by a reputable jewelry vendor who stands behind every product.

I would also suggest that the center stone be as well-cut as possible within your budget, and check that the diamond melee in the chosen setting is also of high quality.
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Verragio setting and ACA stone
İt has a pave however the stones are total 0.20 F/G VS so i dont think it can negativley effect the overall look
 
nala said:
I think the great news about the fact that she cares more about the setting is that she is less likely to obsess over upgrading the stone!!
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Kind of helps me out in a way you reckon haha
 
TripEx said:
Kind of helps me out in a way you reckon haha
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Absolutely!!! If she has a one of a kind setting, she won’t want to ever trade up her stone for size bc it won’t fit! So, as long as you get her a beautiful stone and setting the first time, it will be a win-win!
 
Agree — so long as you get a quality setting then if your sweetheart wants to spend the money on the setting, go for it.
Kind of like buying an expensive wedding band with an intricate design. Just happens to have a well-cut diamond on top.
 
I was one of those who valued the setting more than the stone. This was back when I knew nothing about gemstones. I still love antique settings and unique designs, now I know enough to value both equally. Just be warned that your fiancee may never want to upgrade her ring but that doesn’t preclude her from collecting many, many other rings in the future!
 
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Do you mind sharing what the setting looks like and the stone specs?
 
Settings can be expensive, moreso for the labour involved.
A good standard 4 or 6 prong solitaire setting is around $1,000 to $1,500.
Once you start adding in diamonds ie a halo, on the band, the price starts going up and up.
Have a setting made to measure by a designer and the price can be $3,000 and up and up.
Whats important here is you listen to what she prefers as it will be her beloved ring and it matters that SHE loves it.
Yes, a bigger size diamond with a budget setting is what some love and want.
Others want something unique and antique.
Others want something pre loved to get best value for the $$$$.
Others want a fancy setting because that’s what they love.
Some even chose alternate gemstones in lieu of a diamond.
The only things she needs to consider is the practicality of the setting.
Those whisper thin diamond set bands lose diamonds fast of the setting AND can’t be resized.
Those skyscraper high settings catch and bump on everything risking the diamond and the prongs.
Those “single point of connection” solitaire mounts can be bumped hard enough to literally shear off the band.
By all means point out the fact that a more modest setting can mean a larger centre diamond but only get her what her heart desires.
 
TripEx said:
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Any opinons on this?
İs it normal for the pricing to be very similar
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IMO it is normal for people to vary.
The stone to setting budget ratio is just another thing that's 100% personal preference.
I like the bumper sticker, "Why Be Normal?". ;))

My preference for my first diamond ring was around $27,000 for the diamond and around $300 for the setting, which was made from titanium, no precious metals.

For me it's all about the diamond itself so the more the setting costs the less I have for the diamond.
The perfect setting for me would be magical and invisible air that holds the diamond above my finger.
But, people vary.

All that said, if it bugs YOU it's okay to say so and discuss it unemotionally and respectfully.
Marriage is all about communication, picking your battles, and adjusting to compromise.
 
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Each to their own, just because one cares more about the setting now does not necessarily mean he/she does not have DSS at a later date.

Personally, I believe the setting should be proportionate to the cost of the main stone, hence I am using Moissy and Rhodium-plated Silver in the settings for my lesser CSs.

DK :))
 
I was one of the folks who valued the setting more than the center stone. Pretty much every jeweler we went to told me I was doing it the other way around from everyone else. *shrug* I almost used 60% of our budget on a setting but ultimately spent closer to 40% on it.
 
I guess the heart wants what it wants but to me, that setting is going to be difficult to wear. Lots of pavé to be careful of, plus the tiny diamonds on the flat sides will eat into a wedding band. Plus all those intricate details will collect up soap and other gunk, she will have to clean it regularly! Sorry to be so negative but to me an ER is a daily wear piece and needs to be a bit more carefree. For the total budget she could have a much bigger stone in a classic setting. Anyway, if that’s what she wants, you’d better get it!
 
TripEx said:
Verragio setting and ACA stone
İt has a pave however the stones are total 0.20 F/G VS so i dont think it can negativley effect the overall look
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I have a verragio with an ACA and let me tell you, I wouldnt hav it any other way. I picked out the setting because I wanted to be sure it was exactly what I wanted. I deferred to my husband for the stone which was a huge mistake. My original stone has been languishing away in a drawer for over a year because I found it subpar and bought myself an ACA worthy of being in my verragio setting. If she has her heart set on verragio, I wouldn't try to talk her out of it unless theres a huge compelling reason. I love my verragio and we've been married for over a year now.
 
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Here is my verragio and ACA. Wasn't clean though but still sparkled for how dirty it was. 20201110_132031.jpg
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Wow
They sit very high.
She wants the one in the picture however i did show her a different model with a channel pave and not twisting.
How practicle is it?
She will be doing housework etc
İve been thinking about all the things snowdrop has been saying before aswell.

İve been trying to nudge her toward the JannPaul petite series of things which look amazing aswell

Does yours have the side stones is it damaging your wedding band?


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@TripEx Have you chatted with her quite frankly about how much more diamond she can have if she chooses a plain setting?

We see a lot of both men and women looking for engagement rings on here. There is a trend (amongst American buyers, at least) of valuing setting less with increased understanding of the sacrifice that an elaborate setting requires on the diamond end of the purchase. Without that open discussion of budget, however, it’s more of a “have your cake and eat it too” situation.

That’s a trend. @Rubymal is proof that trends don’t always apply. The only way to be sure of what she wants is to talk with her.

You trying so hard to buy what will make her happiest is lovely to see.
 
I think that Jann Paul setting is pretty. You need to know if the lip around the side of the shank will hold off the wedding
ring so the diamonds dont eat into it. I cant really tell. Ask Jann Paul . Ask them if they have any pictures of it with a wedding band.

Your GF really shouldnt wear her rings while doing housework unless maybe its light dusting. No, to any chemicals or anything
heavy-duty. She needs to treat those settings like little pieces of art.

Edit...actually now that I took a second look, it looks really thin. How wide is the shank? We usually recommend 2mm especially with pave
in it. 1.8mm if just metal (no stones).
 
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TripEx said:
Wow
They sit very high.
She wants the one in the picture however i did show her a different model with a channel pave and not twisting.
How practicle is it?
She will be doing housework etc
İve been thinking about all the things snowdrop has been saying before aswell.

İve been trying to nudge her toward the JannPaul petite series of things which look amazing aswell

Does yours have the side stones is it damaging your wedding band?


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It is a little high but it doesn't get in the way. Honestly, I don't do housework with it on. I have a ringbox at every sink in the house so anytime I need to get my hands dirty or shower/clean, I take it off. I did fall asleep with it on once on accident and nothing happened, but I tend not to sleep with jewelry on.

I haven't been wearing my set as often with the whole covid thing, staying at home all the time, but I did wear it everyday going into the office and the side stones did not damage my wedding band.
 
yssie said:
@TripEx Have you chatted with her quite frankly about how much more diamond she can have if she chooses a plain setting?

We see a lot of both men and women looking for engagement rings on here. There is a trend (amongst American buyers, at least) of valuing setting less with increased understanding of the sacrifice that an elaborate setting requires on the diamond end of the purchase. Without that open discussion of budget, however, it’s more of a “have your cake and eat it too” situation.

That’s a trend. @Rubymal is proof that trends don’t always apply. The only way to be sure of what she wants is to talk with her.

You trying so hard to buy what will make her happiest is lovely to see.
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İ did mention that the a more plain setting will showcase a stone more and the setting shouldnt be too distracting etc she said yes the stone is important aswell . She also said quite blatently(but not in a rude way) i do NOT like plain bands get me something with some design to it.

İ tried warning her saying that i dont want you to get over it later down the track but today when i get more designs from.JannPaul will show her those and have a talk about the practicality of a inctricate design.


JannPaul said the way the stone is held on the 2 tone verragio ring seems to be fairly risky though he trusts their craftsmanship he warned us against it.

So İF we do end up going down that route itd have to be modded but thats another topic.

İ will also warn her about chores etc and getting dirty.

Yess the JannPaul designs are very thin looking and will have to confirm the width of the band as the meeles look to be almost over hanging.

Rubymal said:
It is a little high but it doesn't get in the way. Honestly, I don't do housework with it on. I have a ringbox at every sink in the house so anytime I need to get my hands dirty or shower/clean, I take it off. I did fall asleep with it on once on accident and nothing happened, but I tend not to sleep with jewelry on.

I haven't been wearing my set as often with the whole covid thing, staying at home all the time, but I did wear it everyday going into the office and the side stones did not damage my wedding band.
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Glad to here it doesnt get in a way im worried about the twist with meeles etc haha.

İ guess the side stones will have to be set deeper or flush so it doesnt touch the wedding band or not get them at all

İ will let her know what she will have to make sacrifices if she opts for this setting(more maintenence)

She does hair dressing and beauty etc she currently has a plain solitare as a promise ring which i know she takes off because it gets in the way at times esp having to wear gloves due to covid but other than that i think its ok?
Not too sure.

Will keep posted as per we conversate
 
Actually took a more clear profile shot of my set. The little side stones haven't been an issue for me at all and you can see how detailed my band is. But again, I don't wear my set all the time, especially not when cleaning.

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Rubymal said:
Actually took a more clear profile shot of my set. The little side stones haven't been an issue for me at all and you can see how detailed my band is. But again, I don't wear my set all the time, especially not when cleaning.

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Very nice thank you
 
Has your partner seen a Verragio or similar style in person? If not, that might be worth exploring. I remember I was interested in intricate settings at first when we were looking at e-rings. But then I saw one in person and felt like it had "too much" going on.
 
I'm not into expensive setting. My setting is the least expensive on PS. Some of the ladies here change their settings more often than I change my underwear... :silenced:
 
AnastasiaBeaverhausen said:
Has your partner seen a Verragio or similar style in person? If not, that might be worth exploring. I remember I was interested in intricate settings at first when we were looking at e-rings. But then I saw one in person and felt like it had "too much" going on.
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Thats almost impossible she is cutrently in North Cyprus and i am in Australia.

İ will be heading over there for the wedding hopefully mid year.

We are going to get a wax model from JannPaul and ill be sending it to.her so that will give her an idea i believe
 
This is just my opinion, but if you can afford it, give her what she wants.
 
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