Since we are speaking about the events of 9/11

[pearcrazy]

I heard the Oliver Stone will start filming a new movie starring Nicholas Cage about the Sept. 11, tragedy. You can read about it here http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-film0709,0,203584.story?coll=ny-nynews-headlines It made me uncomfortable to think about it and I wouldn''t want to see it. I think it''s too soon for Hollywood to make a movie about it.

How does everyone else (especially New Yorkers who were there in 2001) feel about it?

 

[Jennifer5973]

Unless every nickel they make is going to charity of some sort, it makes me sick.

 

[Kaleigh]

I agree with Jenn, If the money were to go to charity, it might be ok. But it turns my stomach to even think about it.

I know I wouldn't go see it. I still have nightmares about it.

 

[Morticia]

I probably won''t see it. I live in NYC, and to this day, I still get sick when I just think about certain things. Just Saturday, my FI and I were driving back into town, and looking at the Manhattan skyline..... My heart still breaks a little. No towers.

I was fortunate enough not to be in town the day of the tragedy but I worked right across the street from the WTC. I will never forget the images, the smell of the air, the armed guards, all the missing people posters, etc... I just think it''s way too tragic to go Hollywood.

But if Oliver Stone donates the proceeds to charity, then I guess I can understand it, but I still won''t see it.

 

[Kaleigh]

And Nicholas Cage, could it get any worse?? He gives me the creeps!!!!

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Nicolas Cage rules. I was absolutely awestruck by his breathtaking performances in Face Off and Con Air.

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 7/11/2005 1:45:28 PM
Author: Morticia
. I just think it's way too tragic to go Hollywood.

I agree. My best friend lives in NYC and I remember the terror of that day like it was yesterday. it took us several hours to find out that she was ok. she has the same memories as you Morticia

 

[KittenKat]

Just my personal opinion... but I''d certainly see it. (Especially if done well.)

Bringing it to the big screen - will (possibly) give people the feeling of being there, experiencing the events as the day unfolded. It can personalize it for everyone.

People have to remember. People are very quick to forget.

I understand that people might not be ready - but when is one ready? 10 years from today? 20?

 

[curlygirl]

Date: 7/11/2005 1:45:28 PM
Author: Morticia
I probably won''t see it. I live in NYC, and to this day, I still get sick when I just think about certain things. Just Saturday, my FI and I were driving back into town, and looking at the Manhattan skyline..... My heart still breaks a little. No towers.

I was fortunate enough not to be in town the day of the tragedy but I worked right across the street from the WTC. I will never forget the images, the smell of the air, the armed guards, all the missing people posters, etc... I just think it''s way too tragic to go Hollywood.

But if Oliver Stone donates the proceeds to charity, then I guess I can understand it, but I still won''t see it.

I couldn''t agree more. It''s too tragic and too soon.

 

[pearcrazy]

Date: 7/11/2005 2:58:48 PM
Author: KittenKat
Just my personal opinion... but I''d certainly see it. (Especially if done well.)

Bringing it to the big screen - will (possibly) give people the feeling of being there, experiencing the events as the day unfolded. It can personalize it for everyone.

People have to remember. People are very quick to forget.

I understand that people might not be ready - but when is one ready? 10 years from today? 20?

Yes, 10 or 20 years from now would be better. It was less than 4 years ago. I don''t think any of us who were over the age of 6 or 7 have forgotten anything. September 11, 2001 was my 37th birthday, I know I''ll certainly never forget it. If we do, there is an abundance of photographs, and videos to remind us as well as a gaping hole at ground zero for New Yorkers to look at.

I remember seeing the movie "Saving Private Ryan" and thinking to myself that I had absolutely NO idea how hellish WWII was. That movie was more appreciated by the generations who weren''t alive then.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Date: 7/11/2005 3:12:08 PM
Author: pearcrazy
Yes, 10 or 20 years from now would be better. It was less than 4 years ago. I don't think any of us who were over the age of 6 or 7 have forgotten anything. September 11, 2001 was my 37th birthday, I know I'll certainly never forget it. If we do, there is an abundance of photographs, and videos to remind us as well as a gaping hole at ground zero for New Yorkers to look at.

I remember seeing the movie 'Saving Private Ryan' and thinking to myself that I had absolutely NO idea how hellish WWII was. That movie was more appreciated by the generations who weren't alive then.

But, do you think those who witnessed WWII first hand and still are alive today are okay with watching Saving Private Ryan. . .do you think these peole buy a bag of popcorn and casually rehash those horrible events? I had relatives DIE during WWII and my grandmother's parents were killed in Yugoslavia when the Nazis came on in and guess what, my grandmother STILL after all these years refuses to talk about these tragic events because they only cause grief and nightmares.

I doubt there is ever a good time and those who have witnessed death first hand and they will NEVER be okay with a movie being made regardless of how many years first pass by.

 

[lost on 5th]

i wouldnt see it. i dont enjoy feeling ill, and it certainly isnt worth $10.

thankfully i was in chicago in ''01

i have seen and read most everything about the towers...their history, their design, their life, and the fall. i would rather my memorys be of the place. the hot summer evenings spent relaxing on the benches by the fountain... gazing upwards.. the wind circuling in the plaza. its hard enough taking the subway thru ground zero... seeing that stop greyed out on the map.

**50 years from now, i would watch it... just to remember agian so as not to froget.

 

[fire&ice]

Date: 7/11/2005 3:29:30 PM
Author: MichelleCarmen

Date: 7/11/2005 3:12:08 PM
Author: pearcrazy
Yes, 10 or 20 years from now would be better. It was less than 4 years ago. I don''t think any of us who were over the age of 6 or 7 have forgotten anything. September 11, 2001 was my 37th birthday, I know I''ll certainly never forget it. If we do, there is an abundance of photographs, and videos to remind us as well as a gaping hole at ground zero for New Yorkers to look at.

I remember seeing the movie ''Saving Private Ryan'' and thinking to myself that I had absolutely NO idea how hellish WWII was. That movie was more appreciated by the generations who weren''t alive then.

But, do you think those who witnessed WWII first hand and still are alive today are okay with watching Saving Private Ryan. . .

I agree it''s too soon. BUT - I saw Saving Private Ryan & WEPT for the first 30 minutes or so. I had no idea what my father may have faced. I had no idea how brave those men were for my future freedom. When I got home, I lifted the phone to call my father several times before realizing I could not carry on a coherant conversation. I finally composed an email thanking him, etc. My response was VERY VERY catharict for him. He subsequently did see SPR on video. His respons was "lest we forget." He also felt that despite the horror, he was glad that most people response was as visceral as mine.

 

[pearcrazy]

Date: 7/11/2005 3:29:30 PM
Author: MichelleCarmen

Date: 7/11/2005 3:12:08 PM
Author: pearcrazy
Yes, 10 or 20 years from now would be better. It was less than 4 years ago. I don''t think any of us who were over the age of 6 or 7 have forgotten anything. September 11, 2001 was my 37th birthday, I know I''ll certainly never forget it. If we do, there is an abundance of photographs, and videos to remind us as well as a gaping hole at ground zero for New Yorkers to look at.

I remember seeing the movie ''Saving Private Ryan'' and thinking to myself that I had absolutely NO idea how hellish WWII was. That movie was more appreciated by the generations who weren''t alive then.

But, do you think those who witnessed WWII first hand and still are alive today are okay with watching Saving Private Ryan. . .do you think these peole buy a bag of popcorn and casually rehash those horrible events? I had relatives DIE during WWII and my grandmother''s parents were killed in Yugoslavia when the Nazis came on in and guess what, my grandmother STILL after all these years refuses to talk about these tragic events because they only cause grief and nightmares.

I doubt there is ever a good time and those who have witnessed death first hand and they will NEVER be okay with a movie being made regardless of how many years first pass by.

No Michelle, I don''t think those who witnessed WWII are OK with it. I too had relatives killed during that time. If you read my last sentence of my post that''s why I said that a 911 movie will be better appreciated by those who weren''t alive then and didn''t witness the events first hand. On an aside, my great uncle stormed Omaha beach and he watched Saving Private Ryan and thought it was very well done and finally a realistic portrayal of how things really were that day.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Date: 7/11/2005 4:08:07 PM
Author: pearcrazy
No Michelle, I don't think those who witnessed WWII are OK with it. I too had relatives killed during that time. If you read my last sentence of my post that's why I said that a 911 movie will be better appreciated by those who weren't alive then and didn't witness the events first hand. On an aside, my great uncle stormed Omaha beach and he watched Saving Private Ryan and thought it was very well done and finally a realistic portrayal of how things really were that day.

I was speaking rhetorically. Never is it a good time to watch a tragic event. Like F&I, I was deeply moved and tearful during Saving Private Ryan, but I still don't see it as a good time to create a movie out of a tragic event. I won't see any more negative movies like this!

Why should 9/11 movie profits be given to charities while victims of other situations where horrible events have occured be overlooked when put up on the silver screen? Even if WWII movies have provided insite for many, many still are profitting from other's deaths.

I'm not even sure what my point is. . . I guess when I see a person with a leg amputated and a holding a sign saying Vietnam Vet, please help, god bless. . .I wonder why these people aren't given profits from films involving that war, yet suddenly when a new catastrophe hits, people are expected to pour out tons of money to a cause. Only do we create movies when we're not longer left to feel bad for those involved. I guess this is ONLY when it's no longer too soon.

I'm not directing this post to you Pear Crazy. . .I'm just typing out some thoughts. . .

 

[MissAva]

Two things, Ther is no way I will be going to see that. I knew more 20 people who died and baby sat for three familes who lost a parent. I could not betray those children by going to see that. This just shows how little class Hollywood has left.
In terms of WWII only one of my grandfathers was old enough to go and fight he lost his twin brother.I know that he still has ngihtmares about the things he saw in those camps. I imagine those thing will haunt him until the day he dies. He saw the movie and cried, it was a way for us to talk about what he went through and what it was like to come back to a town which was half gone. That movied showed the horror of what happened without making it trite and I didnt feel like it tried to minimize what happened. JMO. People are still greving, there are people whose loved ones are listed as missing and people who are trying to have their spouse listed as gone so that they can use their bank accounts to pay for their basics...It is not fair to ask children to hear and deal that yet it strikes me as a slap in the face to those who passed. I have heard about the movie and I haven''t been able to find anything about them donating the the firemen, police or the families of the victems of 9/11. It is not right.

 

[ursulawrite]

If it was a tenderly composed indie flick, I would. But you just know this film is going to be big budget explosions and the like.

Has anyone read Jonathan Safran Foer''s novel Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close? It''s about a boy whose father is lost in the WTC attacks. Perfectly written and beautiful, without resorting to sappiness or sensationalism.

 

[IrishEyes]

Well, for me, as many have said here, it would really depend where the money is going for the film. That would decide for me if I would see it or not. If the majority of the cash goes into the director''s, Nick Cage''s and whoever else''s pockets, I will be disgusted and not go. But I think the money should go to the families of the victims.

The events of that day are horrific for all of us Americans. The families that lost loved ones have it the worst of all, for they can never be replaced - not by another tower or a movie or anything. For the rest of us that were fortunate not to lose anyone, we struggle with the loss of innocence and naivete. However, some really good movies have been made in a respectful and decent manner depicting other horrifying events. I thought Shindler''s List was extremely powerful and made in an accurate manner, as well as Saving Private Ryan. Both movies reminding us of the heartache people went through, yet they did so with out exploitation. If the same could be done regarding 9/11, I think it could give the viewers perhaps a different perspective on the events of that day, one they maybe haven''t considered.

But I do agree perhaps it is too soon. After just barely 4 years, it may be too much too soon. I am curious to find out where that cash is going though, and if they do it in a sleazy, horrible Hollywood way that they seem to do many movies, I will be disgusted and perhaps boycott Hollywood altogether. We''ll have to wait and see....

 

[Jennifer5973]

Date: 7/11/2005 4:00:29 PM
Author: fire&ice

Date: 7/11/2005 3:29:30 PM
Author: MichelleCarmen

Date: 7/11/2005 3:12:08 PM
Author: pearcrazy
Yes, 10 or 20 years from now would be better. It was less than 4 years ago. I don''t think any of us who were over the age of 6 or 7 have forgotten anything. September 11, 2001 was my 37th birthday, I know I''ll certainly never forget it. If we do, there is an abundance of photographs, and videos to remind us as well as a gaping hole at ground zero for New Yorkers to look at.

I remember seeing the movie ''Saving Private Ryan'' and thinking to myself that I had absolutely NO idea how hellish WWII was. That movie was more appreciated by the generations who weren''t alive then.

But, do you think those who witnessed WWII first hand and still are alive today are okay with watching Saving Private Ryan. . .

I agree it''s too soon. BUT - I saw Saving Private Ryan & WEPT for the first 30 minutes or so. I had no idea what my father may have faced. I had no idea how brave those men were for my future freedom. When I got home, I lifted the phone to call my father several times before realizing I could not carry on a coherant conversation. I finally composed an email thanking him, etc. My response was VERY VERY catharict for him. He subsequently did see SPR on video. His respons was ''lest we forget.'' He also felt that despite the horror, he was glad that most people response was as visceral as mine.

F&I, I had the same reaction to Saving Private Ryan. I had avoided seeing it for a long time becasue I was afraid. But one night it came on HBO and I sat transfixed...Tears just steadily streamed down my face during the first 30 minutes and at subsequent intervals throughout the movie. I felt extremely humbled and thankful after seeing this and felt, as I do today, that this film should be manfatory as part of every high school history program. Kids today have no idea...at least I grew up listening to my grandfathers tell their stories--one in the Pacific and one in Europe, so I feel i had some sense of this tremendous history from them.

But this was a movie made 60 years after the event...we''re at 4 years and the stories are too fresh, the wounds too raw...and it saddens me to say it but the acts of 9/11 may not be the last. To make a movie about terrorism when the worst may be yet to come is simply unconscionable IMO.

 

[MissAva]

It just bothers me that the movie decribes it self as being set only on 9/11 and still gives claims to show the international communites strength and support. My BUM!

Jenn- I know how you feel. I am one of those kids from today. I have one grandfather who fought in WWII and one who served his whole live and in both Korea and Vietnam, he lost his hearing for all the time he spent in planes. You never hear him complain he always say he would have given anything and still would to protect his grandbabies. It makes me sick when I hear epole insult our soliders from any war. No one wants to let the solider fight the war, but when something goes wrong it is becuase our miltary is too this or too that. After listening to a certain major hollywood figures father explain to everyone about how WWII never happened it made me sick. I had been very excited about a movie that was coming out and had been touched to hear the director talk about how his father taught him about religion...until I heard his father comments about that. Too much of my generation watches the lead in on the news and belives that as truth and never questions. They watch the commercials for 60 seconds or CNN and belive they know the history of the world. Or worse they see movies and feel that listening to the people who lived through these things offers no value. I fear that the movies have become the main source of education for many of the young people out there...and it saddens me deeply.