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Arcadian

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Gulf states!! Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Florida. Non Gulf States!! Tennessee, North and South Carolina, Georgia

Whats up? There's snow talk in Florida plus freezing rain/ice and infrastructure here is just not built for that kind of thing.

I'm far enough south that I will only get rain and it will be a bit chilly but north is going to be a mess.
 
Are you able to work from home tomorrow @Arcadian? I know many people in Florida don’t know how to drive in snow but snow is much better than ice. No one can drive on ice. Please take care and stay inside. Keep your faucets dripping so the pipes don’t freeze just in case your temps dip below freezing.
 
Interestingly enough this is not as rare as I thought.

The reason why





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Here are five key insights that'll leave you in the know about wintry weather in the South.

1) Key Ingredients

A few key ingredients need to come together for snow and ice to develop in the South.

Cold air needs to be in place first. This typically happens a few times each winter when the polar jet stream dives southward across the U.S.

Moisture is the second necessary ingredient for any precipitation to form. The ideal setup involves the subtropical jet stream moving over the South. This would then allow disturbances to track near the South, which provides the third ingredient of lift in the atmosphere.

Snow, sleet, or freezing rain can form if the air is cold enough close to the surface.

There are other setups that can produce wintry conditions in the South. One such scenario involves a strong low-pressure system that develops near the Gulf Coast or off the Southeast Coast. An example of this is the Superstorm of March 1993.

(For even more granular weather data tracking in your area, view your 15-minute details forecast in our Premium Pro experience.)

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Common setup for snow and/or ice in the South.

2) The Prime Time For South Winter Storms

January and February are when winter storms are most common in the South. This is when the ingredients mentioned above are most likely to come together.

In some years, a cold and active weather pattern can remain in place over the East for periods of time. The combination of arctic air and an active subtropical jet stream can bring multiple rounds of snow and ice to portions of the South.

However, snow can still occur in late fall and even in March, like with the Superstorm of 1993, given the right conditions.

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Total snowfall from the March 1993 Superstorm
(NCEI/NOAA)

3) Season Totals Can Be Surprising

Many locations in the South experience snow on average at least once every other snowfall season.

However, the amount of snow that accumulates is frequently less than an inch. A few cities that see less than an inch on average each year include Charleston, South Carolina; Jackson, Mississippi; Montgomery, Alabama; and Macon, Georgia. These averages are derived from data for the years 1991-2020.

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Over a season the snowfall totals can add up to a decent amount. Raleigh, North Carolina, receives 5.2 inches a season on average each season, while Nashville, Tennessee, sees about 4.7 inches and Atlanta measures just over 2 inches. The average snowfall is even higher in some higher-elevation areas. Asheville, North Carolina, at an elevation of over 2,000 feet, typically receives 10.3 inches in a season.
Some seasons can be particularly snowy and many cities have tallied more than a foot of snow. Huntsville, Alabama, measured just over two feet of snow in 1963-64, and Nashville, Tennessee saw 38.5 inches in 1959-60. Farther east, Knoxville, Tennessee recorded 56.7 inches that same season.

As expected, snowfall totals are much lower closer to the Gulf Coast. The most snow in a season in New Orleans is only 2.7 inches, which took place in 1963-64. In Houston, the highest seasonal snowfall total is 4.8 inches in 1973-73.

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Average seasonal snowfall for selected Southern cities and the most date when at least one inch of snow was measured, as of January 6, 2024.

4) Don't Forget the Ice

An ice threat comes along with the snow. Sleet and freezing rain are fairly common in the South, with many areas seeing wintry precipitation at least once each season.

The type of precipitation that ultimately falls is due to the temperature profile in the atmosphere. Snow happens when temperatures are below freezing both near the surface and above the surface.

But sleet or freezing rain can form when temperatures close to the ground are below the freezing mark and the air is warmer a few thousand feet aloft. Sleet will fall if precipitation refreezes before it reaches the ground. Freezing rain will form if it freezes on contact with a cold surface.

(MORE: 5 Reasons Freezing Rain Is the Worst)

The Piedmont of the Carolinas and northern Georgia are both areas where this can commonly happen. This is due to the cold air banking up against the eastern slopes of the Appalachians, resulting in cold air lingering near the surface.

Heavy amounts of freezing rain accumulations have historically been very impactful for parts of the South and led to tree damage and widespread power outages in some cases.

Icicles form in an unusually chilly Charleston, S.C. (Steve Colman)


Icicles form in an unusually chilly Charleston, S.C.
(Steve Colman)

5) Little Accumulation Can Bring Big Impacts

Significant impacts often happen even though most of the time the snow and ice amounts are usually on the low side.

This is partly due to the infrequent nature of wintry episodes in the region. Motorists do not usually have much experience driving in winter weather and most areas do not have a large fleet of equipment to treat roadways.

Consequently, roads can become treacherous quickly, so it is necessary to be prepared for dangerous travel and the closure of businesses.

In January 2014, parts of the South were impacted by one of the most recent memorable storms, Winter Storm Leon, which left people stranded in vehicles across the Atlanta area.

Hopefully, lessons from past winter storms will help to mitigate future impacts.

In this aerial photo, abandoned cars at I-75 headed northbound near the Chattahoochee River overpass are piled up in the median of the ice-covered interstate after a winter snow storm, Jan. 29, 2014, in Atlanta.b(AP Photo/David Tulis)


In this aerial photo, abandoned cars at I-75 headed northbound near the Chattahoochee River overpass are piled up in the median of the ice-covered interstate after a winter snow storm, Jan. 29, 2014, in Atlanta.
(AP Photo/David Tulis)
Linda Lam is a lead meteorologist at weather.com. Growing up in Massachusetts she developed a fascination for winter storms and hurricanes that led her to pursue a career in meteorology.

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We got about 6" yesterday overnight
It's pretty but I hate this weather for all the outdoor animals
It's brutal with single digit temps
Praying for everyone affected. Stay safe

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I grew up in Miami and I do remember West Palm getting snow once. It freaked everyone out. And the roads were a mess. It wasn't much snow, but of course, a shock.
 
ive seen snow on the ground once in nearly 30 years
please send some cold air this way
this week is going to be hot and i work in a bakery
and also hot at night
our season started up hot back in October but we had an usually cool December and over the holidays, of course hte kids go back to school next week so its getting hotter
 
and yes, please drive carefully, stay home if you can
down home in the South Island were snow was more common in the cities the police always said stay home
 
Are you able to work from home tomorrow @Arcadian? I know many people in Florida don’t know how to drive in snow but snow is much better than ice. No one can drive on ice. Please take care and stay inside. Keep your faucets dripping so the pipes don’t freeze just in case your temps dip below freezing.

South Florida is thankfully opting out of this snow and ice storm. we won't completely escape the cold though, but thats something we can manage (the ground won't freeze where we are most plants will be OK.

There will likely be a falling iguana warning put out on the news...lol


@Lookinagain I think it was 2021 where we had highs of 43F for Christmas and that freaked a lot of people out. We bundled the puppies up in their coats and had a blast.
 
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Sorry. :eek2: but we're having a Sun-magedon.

Bibi and I are just going for a walk to Trader Joes.

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Oh Kenny! :angryfire:
You and your dark humor! :naughty:
 
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Here in south central Texas, it is colder than a polar bear’s bottom!
We may get about an inch of snow , icy overpasses ( or fly overs as they are called here) and no school tomorrow . So many of the kids here don’t have the proper winter coats, boots, etc. for super cold weather.
Also, I have the same worries as @missy , when it comes to the animals. Our warming shelters will let people take their pets with them but the stray cats and dogs are on their own.
 
Apparently parts of Texas and Louisiana are under blizzard warnings. thats pretty crazy.
 
Sorry. :eek2: but we're having a Sun-magedon.

I'm emerald green with envy. We have Fogmagedon. It was 27 degrees yesterday morning and the fog that has blanketed us for nearly 6 weeks froze and was 2 inches on the ground in some places. I've never seen fog freeze before. Twenty-five degrees this morning. :errrr:
 
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I’m jealous too @kenny. It’s -6 degrees here right now.
My deepest sympathies @Calliecake

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But I know cold!
I grew up in the, either freezing or hot & humid, north central Midwest, with no AC.
Later I lived 18 months stationed near the Arctic Circle, then Ontario Canada for a year.
Also I was stationed, I mean sweated, a year in Florida, then S.E. Asia with no AC.

I've done my time.
When leaving the service my priorities were a good job, and a Mediterranean climate.

I swore I'd never again live where I'm physically miserable for of much of the year.
To me being physically miserable (too hot or cold) smacks of being sick ... and as they say, when you have your health you have just about everything.

I'd rather live in a crappy house in a crappy neighborhood in ideal climate, than the best home in the best neighborhood where I have to suffer by just going outside. :knockout:

All that said I, of course, respect that millions LOVE where they live too.
Sometimes it's hard to believe how much people vary.
 
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@kenny, you guys were warmer than we were. We got to 68 and thats all. But I'm sweating buckets. Too cool to turn the AC on, but the humidity is through the roof because of the rain. Tomorrow's high is 64 and it will be much of the same for rain.

My AC is set to come on at 77 in the afternoons and its only 75 in the house...dilemma!!
 
Woke up to this in our part of Texas. Thankfully, even though it’s only been hovering just above freezing, it’s melted now.

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@kenny, you guys were warmer than we were. We got to 68 and thats all. But I'm sweating buckets. Too cool to turn the AC on, but the humidity is through the roof because of the rain. Tomorrow's high is 64 and it will be much of the same for rain.

My AC is set to come on at 77 in the afternoons and its only 75 in the house...dilemma!!

Sorry @Arcadian :blackeye:

I've never had AC, but I believe they do 2 things:
1. Cool
2. Lower relative humidity
And yes, I realize those two things are related, hence the inclusion of the term relative.

Is it possible to turn on its humidity changing function without affecting the temp function?
If the answer for your AC unit is no, perhaps there are other AC units that can do this.
If I were you I'd do some internet searches on this topic.
If that doesn't help I'd get in touch with a professional expert in the HVAC field.

Also, consider buying a dehumidifier.

BTW, the internet has real estate listings for So Cal. ;)2
The only area I'm aware of with slightly better climate than ours is San Diego. :love:
 
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I am in Coastal NC, we expect 6-8 inches tonight, work sent us home at 1, no work tomorrow and an expected 4 hour delay Thurs. We haven't had snow since 2017. I am originally from OH but I won't dare get on the roads, these people are in ditches with half an inch of snow
 
According to what I've seen snow wise for FL its coming down heavily. Reports are saying Pensacola got 5.5 inches so far...thats crazy.

Also Louisiana: 10.5 inches in Rayne (near Lafayette) the heck? thats some upper midwest snow right there.
 
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I am in Coastal NC, we expect 6-8 inches tonight, work sent us home at 1, no work tomorrow and an expected 4 hour delay Thurs. We haven't had snow since 2017. I am originally from OH but I won't dare get on the roads, these people are in ditches with half an inch of

Sorry @Arcadian :blackeye:

I've never had AC, but I believe they do 2 things:
1. Cool
2. Lower relative humidity
And yes, I realize those two things are related, hence the inclusion of the term relative.

Is it possible to turn on its humidity changing function without affecting the temp function?
If the answer for your AC unit is no, perhaps there are other AC units that can do this.
If I were you I'd do some internet searches on this topic.
If that doesn't help I'd get in touch with a professional expert in the HVAC field.

Also, consider buying a dehumidifier.

BTW, the internet has real estate listings for So Cal. ;)2
The only area I'm aware of with slightly better climate than ours is San Diego. :love:

I have done fan only and it can work...if the air outside is dry!! My husband is like "please, we're melting" So I've turned on the AC (the dogs are actually OK but its so humid the floor is sticky right now)

I'll do that until bedtime considering outside temps will be upper 50's overnight.

I'm too poor to live out west these days (I lived out west when I went to a little school named UC Berkley...) Heck I'm too poor to live here too but I got in early..lol

We won't get any real cold until Wednesday evening.
 
Woke up to this in our part of Texas. Thankfully, even though it’s only been hovering just above freezing, it’s melted now.

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That looks exactly like my area of Texas did this morning. The neighborhood kids were so excited. School was canceled bc of possible ice on the roads, so they got outside and made itty bitty snowmen . Have to say, the weather in Louisiana ( snow on Bourbon Street) is crazy! Stay safe out there, y’all!
 
@Austina, That’s crazy! Were the neighborhood kids excited?

@autumngems, That’s a lot of snow. Do they even have salt and snow plows for the roads? All it takes is the roads to get slick with a little snow and all heck breaks loose if people don’t know how to drive in snow. Please stay safe.
 
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this was some storm


Some places in Louisiana got 11 inches of snow and that right there is crazy.

Pensacola got nearly 8 inches of snow...

 
Power outages in the storm area are pretty high

https://poweroutage.us/

Also we started off our day at 57 we're now dipping close to 50 as the storm passes up north.
 
I feel bad for the people not used to getting cold weather who might not know what precautions to take. Especially when it comes to frozen pipes, carbon monoxide from heaters, slips and falls in the ice and snow.

I'm not working today so the dog keeps pestering me to let her outside. It's too cold in the minus zero weather for a walk. I make sure I set a timer for 3 minutes to bring her back in so her paws don't get frostbitten. I put out a lot of suet for the birds and little suet pieces with nuts for the critters. This is the coldest winter we have had in the last decade.
 
I feel bad for the people not used to getting cold weather who might not know what precautions to take. Especially when it comes to frozen pipes, carbon monoxide from heaters, slips and falls in the ice and snow.

I'm not working today so the dog keeps pestering me to let her outside. It's too cold in the minus zero weather for a walk. I make sure I set a timer for 3 minutes to bring her back in so her paws don't get frostbitten. I put out a lot of suet for the birds and little suet pieces with nuts for the critters. This is the coldest winter we have had in the last decade.

This. But one step further. I feel so terrible for all the animals who live outside. These temps are not compatible with life. Worried sick for our feral cats. It’s the coldest it has ever been since we moved here in 2011
 
This. But one step further. I feel so terrible for all the animals who live outside. These temps are not compatible with life. Worried sick for our feral cats. It’s the coldest it has ever been since we moved here in 2011

I know your worry is deep and hope the kitties are okay. Hugs.
 
I know your worry is deep and hope the kitties are okay. Hugs.

Thank you so much Lisa. You are so kind. We are happy to report we did see Pepsi and Fresca late this morning. And I think Dr Pepper too. But we haven't seen everyone (we have 9 feral cats) and we are praying they are all OK
 
Hope everyone is faring okay!
 
Hi all! I’m in Mississippi now and we got 8 inches! Lost power for a bit but I’m from the DC area so I’m familiar with snow precautions. Our local area doesn’t really have plows or salting equipment so fortunately I teleworked!

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